Is it worth upgrading to a sapphire RX 5700 pulse or a sapphire RX 5700XT pulse from a Vega 56?

[*| Lion Heart |*]

I was wondering if its worth upgrading to the RX 5700 series mentioned above? If there would be any noticable upgrade?

[UTFapolloMarine]

Messaggio originale di Autumn:

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

and thats a great and wonderful build, but its not about what we build, its about the experience we have with others doing so, i had times i failed on builds from frying mobos back to buying parts to big or to small for cases and other things like capacitors and even ram in the way of a Cooler, i respect your company, but know its not about what you build, its about the experience and being blessed enough to be able to do so knowing someone out there will never even own my old dual cores because there country is 3 thousand dollars for a single core system still stay safe my guy

Everything you do is an easy fix, that you can just google to find.
>Why isn't my computer turning on?
>Make sure it's plugged in!

Almost anyone on this planet can figure out how a computer works.
Building computers isn't hard, it's playing match the shapes.

You replacing thermal paste, or making sure the cables are plugged in isn't anything special, anyone who's build their own PC has done the same thing, either for themselves or friends.

As Escorve said, the only reason someone comes to you is because you offer it for free.
Anyone that remotely knows what they're doing, or is willing to pay would never go to you, they would go to an actual shop and get it fixed, properly.

No one wants your old dualcore system, so yeah, I guess it is a pretty decent feeling having something no-one else wants.

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

take it how you want it, but my words are specific context related to accurate computers systems and AMD, just because you read it wrong dont mean i said what you wanted me to say, yall just mad people been leaning towards me more because i have more experience and helped a bunch of steam users get there computers running again have a nice day brother

I will confirm what Escorve is saying as to wording, you can't convey your thoughts properly though text, so your words come off in the wrong way/meaning.
Even though I read and write/type with no emotion (to remove said variable of reading wrong), I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say if you don't mean what you said.

I mean this in the least insulting way properly, pick up a book and read it, learn how sentences are structured, and what words mean better, you can actually express what you're trying to say properly.

And, as I said above, it doesn't take much experience to play match the shapes / make sure it's plugged in properly.

well when we live in a day were pc repairs are mandy for standard humans then maybe no tech is relevant today Carry Holzman disagrees with you on this one just saying, i hope we all can move on today and just enjoy our computers

[Omega]

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

well when we live in a day were pc repairs are mandy for standard humans then maybe no tech is relevant today Carry Holzman disagrees with you on this one just saying, i hope we all can move on today and just enjoy our computers

Holzman is an idiot. And I say that as someone who used to be very active in his community.

[Autumn_]

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

Messaggio originale di Autumn:

Everything you do is an easy fix, that you can just google to find.
>Why isn't my computer turning on?
>Make sure it's plugged in!

Almost anyone on this planet can figure out how a computer works.
Building computers isn't hard, it's playing match the shapes.

You replacing thermal paste, or making sure the cables are plugged in isn't anything special, anyone who's build their own PC has done the same thing, either for themselves or friends.

As Escorve said, the only reason someone comes to you is because you offer it for free.
Anyone that remotely knows what they're doing, or is willing to pay would never go to you, they would go to an actual shop and get it fixed, properly.

No one wants your old dualcore system, so yeah, I guess it is a pretty decent feeling having something no-one else wants.


I will confirm what Escorve is saying as to wording, you can't convey your thoughts properly though text, so your words come off in the wrong way/meaning.
Even though I read and write/type with no emotion (to remove said variable of reading wrong), I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to say if you don't mean what you said.

I mean this in the least insulting way properly, pick up a book and read it, learn how sentences are structured, and what words mean better, you can actually express what you're trying to say properly.

And, as I said above, it doesn't take much experience to play match the shapes / make sure it's plugged in properly.

well when we live in a day were pc repairs are mandy for standard humans then maybe no tech is relevant today Carry Holzman disagrees with you on this one just saying, i hope we all can move on today and just enjoy our computers

I don't understand what you just said, could you please reiterate?
And, I've never heard of this Carry Holzman fellow, who is he? And how is he relevant?

[UTFapolloMarine]

Messaggio originale di 𝓞𝓶𝓮𝓰𝓪:

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

well when we live in a day were pc repairs are mandy for standard humans then maybe no tech is relevant today Carry Holzman disagrees with you on this one just saying, i hope we all can move on today and just enjoy our computers

Holzman is an idiot. And I say that as someone who used to be very active in his community.

lies! he is a great Technician and a trustworthy man with his builds your just blaspheme his name to back up what you said about pc repairs not being a relevant field today when in reality it will never get old! he is a great tech

[UTFapolloMarine]

Messaggio originale di Autumn:

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

well when we live in a day were pc repairs are mandy for standard humans then maybe no tech is relevant today Carry Holzman disagrees with you on this one just saying, i hope we all can move on today and just enjoy our computers

I don't understand what you just said, could you please reiterate?
And, I've never heard of this Carry Holzman fellow, who is he? And how is he relevant?

he is a great Technician and runs a great business though i would never need another Techs help, i can always use his advice because he has more experience and is a great guy

[SeriousCCIE]

ths is the first time i ever heard of the guy

i am guessing he is just some person that makes money off affiliate fees on various sites by endorsing products that he's sponsored to market? just a different type of mr coffee but on computers instead?

*disclaimer--I don't watch ads if I can avoid them so i am not reading things like the Kim Kommando advice column unless its to refute an older relative who thinks she is hot.

is he like some sort of alpha primate that people stare at or something? i dont really put any trust in someone that makes money off advice on what to buy. we used to call them sales people but now I think they are called native advertisements.

also im not trying to come across as negative but i had no idea who he was...

(ha the guy even made his own wikipedia page and was called out for writing an autobiogrphy to promote himself.. sales person indeed...ok well that doesn't mean he's dumb or wrong, just that he has a profit motive... still... unfortuntely despite his global presence I wasn't aware of him.)

[*| Lion Heart |*]

Messaggio originale di Autumn:

Messaggio originale di Lion Heart:

For now I dont game much anymore...and mainly on a 1080P monitor, which I can perhaps upsample to 1440 perhaps, got links to those numbers?

I'm not sure where he got 53% stronger from because even the Aniversary edition is only 36% stronger than the V56.
( https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-Vega-56-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3938vs4045 , that's vs. the 5700 XT, but the Aniverary is just a better binned 5700XT iirc.)

POUusnavy says some strange things sometimes, but sometimes he's helpful, I don't think he means bad either.
My point, he's not the most reliable or accurate for information.
Still, I wouldn't just throw his opinion out, just check around or ask for proof (like you did.)

Anyway, back to topic.
Power draw/effecient is kinda not an issue, you're talking like 10-15 dollars a year difference. You'd make more money back changing your lightbulbs to energy efficent ones.

Temps with the stock cooler are garbage, we're talking 'spaceheater' levels, but most aftermarket coolers will do fine for it, so long as its not a blower, or super skinny heatsink.

Honestly, the Vega56/1070 is still fine for 1080p60fps max/high settings, so it's not a problem if you do decide to keep the V56.
You've gotta decide if 100 dollars is worth a ~30% gain in performance.

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

massive ugrade man has 53% power over the vega runs 4k light games

Could you link you source(s)?
I'm curious to know where you/they got ~50% from.

Ill skip the other discussions below, and rerouting back on the original topic....

I just got a vega 56 (well almost a month ago), and was waiting for an aftermarket 5700 or 4700xt....considering I went form a 7950, that served me well even on OC (untill lately it started to oeverheat) for so many years, and the fact that I dont game much nowadays, but want a quiet, cool(er, aka not room heater) build, I was thinking of returning the vega56 and getting a 5700...sicne looks like the 5700xt wont be available for a while...

I read more reviews and comparisons than I would want, but some only showed that 5700 was couple frames faster than vega 56, and2 or 3 reviews actually showed vega outperforming the 5700 by 1 or 2 frames...which totally stomped me....

and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

Vega responds well to an undervolt if you decide to keep the Vega 56, runs a bit cooler and quieter this way.

[*| Lion Heart |*]

Messaggio originale di Spec_Ops_Ape:

Vega responds well to an undervolt if you decide to keep the Vega 56, runs a bit cooler this way.

Thanks for the info...I looked over my GPU-z , and could not believe the car running at 38 degrees, and only using 5 to 10 W energy in idle....so did not know if that was correct, or i got a super card


basically in 1 hour 30 minutes ill have the return deadline closed, so Im trying to figure out which is better....and pretty much dint even play a single game since I got it in almost 4 weeks now...

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

Messaggio originale di Lion Heart:

and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...

You and me both.

[UTFapolloMarine]

Messaggio originale di Spec_Ops_Ape:

Messaggio originale di Lion Heart:

and I have no interest of supporting nvidia ...ever...

You and me both.

AMD all the way guys! i cant not recommend an rx5700 enough! i mean who wouldnt?

[*| Lion Heart |*]

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

Messaggio originale di Spec_Ops_Ape:

You and me both.

AMD all the way guys! i cant not recommend an rx5700 enough! i mean who wouldnt?

What card did you upgrade form previously?

[UTFapolloMarine]

Messaggio originale di Lion Heart:

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

AMD all the way guys! i cant not recommend an rx5700 enough! i mean who wouldnt?

What card did you upgrade form previously?

i have the Jr model rx480 and already runs a pro of games! and rx5700 is the same board and style cover man! but just twice the performance! if i dont aim at a 1660ti build im going rx5700 all day!

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

Messaggio originale di Lion Heart:

Messaggio originale di POUusnavy:

AMD all the way guys! i cant not recommend an rx5700 enough! i mean who wouldnt?

What card did you upgrade form previously?

Me? ASUS Strix Vega 64 crossfire now using a Radeon VII.

[*| Lion Heart |*]

been looking at various comparisons and it feels like the 5700xt beats vega 56 by about 9 to 14 frames max , and about 10 to 13 average frames in general, while pausing those videos and comparing them....to be honest for $120 more...it does not really make sence for me to upgrade...since the numbers are in lowe 100's or high 80/90 framerates, especially in games that I dont really care about playing anyways....bored wish shooters anyhow...I mainly looked framerates, yes, but also temperatures, and power consumption...yes...I like to be efficient ;) and here I got mixed info from various sites...which confuses me....some claim 5700 is more efficient, some that vega 56 is less power hungry...but it has a 2x8 pin...vs a 6 and 8 pin...which to me means less power...