Fans running extremely loud after ram upgrade

[Head of Vegetables]

System currently : Ryzen 5 1400 @3.2Ghz, Rx 580 4gb, g skill ripjaw V 16 gb ddr4 runnung at 2933mhz instead of 3200, 1 tb hard drive, and MSI b350M bazooka motherboard
recently upgraded the ram from geil evo potenza 8gb stick to the ram listed above.
First, when i tried setting the clock speed of the ram to the 3200 mhz, my fans started rotating about 2.5 times faster while i was still in the bios. Then I set them to the second profile of 2933 and the fans were fine. however, when I run games now, my fans on the GPU ( at least i think) run incredibly loud and I'm unsure as to why. The reason I think its the gpu fans is because while I was playing a game, i had msi afterburner on and my gpu temp rose to 71*C nearly instantly while my cpu remained around 35-45*C. This also happened in Insurgency Sandstorm as well as it said my GPU was in 100% use. I'm not very good with computer trouble shooting but Is it the ram that caused this? I'm sure I installed it correctly because everything has been running fine besides the fans and I'm not sure how the ram would cause the fans speed to increase so drastically. If theres tweaking I need to do in the bios then let me know how to do that and I can try that. I'd prefer that my fans don't sound like a plane when I'm playing games that aren't super performance heavy such as city of brass which I downloaded for free and exceed recommended system specs but somehow my fans need to go at full speed. Any help or suggestions are appreciated

[CursedPanther]

Since you've mentioned MSI Afterburner, then you should probably know that you can manually adjust the GPU fan speed with the software. Have a go at it and see if it makes a difference.

[𝔇ave]

most modern bios's have tools to configure fan curves for cpu and case fans. other tools like msi afterburner have this as well for the gpu fans. you can configure your fans to suit your noise tolerance levels at different temps

[Head of Vegetables]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Since you've mentioned MSI Afterburner, then you should probably know that you can manually adjust the GPU fan speed with the software. Have a go at it and see if it makes a difference.

I was thinking about that. Currently its just set at auto fan speed but If i manually change the speed to a lower amount and my GPU is heating up, won't my Gpu overheat? Im curious why my GPU is even in 100%utilization in some of my games anyway, obviously in demanding titles its more understandable but less demanding ones i'm at a loss over. Do you happen to have any ideas why this may be happening?

[𝔇ave]

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Since you've mentioned MSI Afterburner, then you should probably know that you can manually adjust the GPU fan speed with the software. Have a go at it and see if it makes a difference.

I was thinking about that. Currently its just set at auto fan speed but If i manually change the speed to a lower amount and my GPU is heating up, won't my Gpu overheat? Im curious why my GPU is even in 100%utilization in some of my games anyway, obviously in demanding titles its more understandable but less demanding ones i'm at a loss over. Do you happen to have any ideas why this may be happening?

unless you set a framerate limit or your cpu is holding back your gpu then running at 100% is normal set a custom fan curve in afterburner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9_DTKpPkY

skip to 1:00

[Head of Vegetables]

Originally posted by Dave:

most modern bios's have tools to configure fan curves for cpu and case fans. other tools like msi afterburner have this as well for the gpu fans. you can configure your fans to suit your noise tolerance levels at different temps

if i do happen to lower the GPU fan speed or whatever, couldn't my GPU be more susceptible to overheat? Do you know why my GPU is being in 100% utilization anyway? I understand why it may be in more demanding titles but not less demanding ones.

[Head of Vegetables]

Originally posted by Dave:

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

I was thinking about that. Currently its just set at auto fan speed but If i manually change the speed to a lower amount and my GPU is heating up, won't my Gpu overheat? Im curious why my GPU is even in 100%utilization in some of my games anyway, obviously in demanding titles its more understandable but less demanding ones i'm at a loss over. Do you happen to have any ideas why this may be happening?

unless you set a framerate limit or your cpu is holding back your gpu then running at 100% is normal set a custom fan curve in afterburner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf9_DTKpPkY

skip to 1:00

okay thank you I will take a look at this later

[Snow]

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

Originally posted by Dave:

most modern bios's have tools to configure fan curves for cpu and case fans. other tools like msi afterburner have this as well for the gpu fans. you can configure your fans to suit your noise tolerance levels at different temps

if i do happen to lower the GPU fan speed or whatever, couldn't my GPU be more susceptible to overheat? Do you know why my GPU is being in 100% utilization anyway? I understand why it may be in more demanding titles but not less demanding ones.

It makes no difference if the task is demanding or not - unless it's artificially limited, the task is going to run as fast, as your hardware allows.
Simple example. Say your CPU's got 500 power points, and your GPU's got 1000 Game A is new and demanding one, it requires 10 CPU power and 20 GPU power for a single frame, thus you're going to have 50 FPS with both CPU and GPU reaching their 100% usage. Game B is old and not demanding one, it requires 5 CPU power and 10 GPU power for a single frame. In this case your hardware can process 100 frames, and both CPU and GPU will still be used to their fullest. Game C is some CPU hungry title with a lot of objects, AI, physics, so it requires 10 CPU power and 10 GPU power for a frame. Considering you've only got CPU 500 power points, it will stop at 50 frames as that's you CPU's limit, and your GPU will show 50% usage, as it simply doesn't have anything to process.
CPU makes things exist. GPU makes things look pretty. One is always more powerful than other one depending on the exact application and both try to make their job as fast as they can. Best you can do - limit your framerate to your screen's refresh rate or half of it using RTSS that comes with MSI Afterburner and lower the graphics a little bit so your GPU always stay below 100% usage, thus doesn't produce less heat and stable framerate. There's also other important reason to try RTSS framelimiting - unlike VSync and in-game limiters, RTSS limits the framerate on CPU level, stabilizing the frametime and making games butter smooth. That's how they make 30 FPS look so good on consoles.

[Head of Vegetables]

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

if i do happen to lower the GPU fan speed or whatever, couldn't my GPU be more susceptible to overheat? Do you know why my GPU is being in 100% utilization anyway? I understand why it may be in more demanding titles but not less demanding ones.

It makes no difference if the task is demanding or not - unless it's artificially limited, the task is going to run as fast, as your hardware allows.
Simple example. Say your CPU's got 500 power points, and your GPU's got 1000 Game A is new and demanding one, it requires 10 CPU power and 20 GPU power for a single frame, thus you're going to have 50 FPS with both CPU and GPU reaching their 100% usage. Game B is old and not demanding one, it requires 5 CPU power and 10 GPU power for a single frame. In this case your hardware can process 100 frames, and both CPU and GPU will still be used to their fullest. Game C is some CPU hungry title with a lot of objects, AI, physics, so it requires 10 CPU power and 10 GPU power for a frame. Considering you've only got CPU 500 power points, it will stop at 50 frames as that's you CPU's limit, and your GPU will show 50% usage, as it simply doesn't have anything to process.
CPU makes things exist. GPU makes things look pretty. One is always more powerful than other one depending on the exact application and both try to make their job as fast as they can. Best you can do - limit your framerate to your screen's refresh rate or half of it using RTSS that comes with MSI Afterburner and lower the graphics a little bit so your GPU always stay below 100% usage, thus doesn't produce less heat and stable framerate. There's also other important reason to try RTSS framelimiting - unlike VSync and in-game limiters, RTSS limits the framerate on CPU level, stabilizing the frametime and making games butter smooth. That's how they make 30 FPS look so good on consoles.

Okay i will likely try that, thank you for the examples and suggestion! the examples were pretty helpful as my knowledge regarding Pc is slim

[Snow]

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

Okay i will likely try that, thank you for the examples and suggestion! the examples were pretty helpful as my knowledge regarding Pc is slim

We've got all kinds of specialists here in HW&OS hub, so feel free to come back with any questions related. Also, 71* is pretty fine for GPU under heavy load. I'd say don't worry until 80*, as somewhere around mid 80s most GPUs start to reduce clocks, thus decreasing performance. If the main problem's the noise - custom fan curve is one solution, but consider proper case cooling as well, those 120mm fans are quiet and cost next to nothing. Yet another clever thing is to give the graphics card to some friend or service center for a thermal paste replacement, some GPUs come with really bad compound and changing that thing alone can sometimes give noticeable results.

[Head of Vegetables]

Originally posted by Snow:

Originally posted by GHOSTzombieX:

Okay i will likely try that, thank you for the examples and suggestion! the examples were pretty helpful as my knowledge regarding Pc is slim

We've got all kinds of specialists here in HW&OS hub, so feel free to come back with any questions related. Also, 71* is pretty fine for GPU under heavy load. I'd say don't worry until 80*, as somewhere around mid 80s most GPUs start to reduce clocks, thus decreasing performance. If the main problem's the noise - custom fan curve is one solution, but consider proper case cooling as well, those 120mm fans are quiet and cost next to nothing. Yet another clever thing is to give the graphics card to some friend or service center for a thermal paste replacement, some GPUs come with really bad compound and changing that thing alone can sometimes give noticeable results.

Thank you! if the custom fan curve thing doesn't work then I will probably consider getting some new fans to help with cooling or even potentially take it somewhere for the thermal paste replacement. Anyways thanks so much