2 RTX 2080 TI or wait for RTX 3080TI for max settings 1440p with full ray tracing?
Now that many more games are supporting ray tracing iam considering to upgrade graphics card. What will it be better to wait for RTX 3080TI or buy 2 RTX 2080TI because as we see from games like Control Metro exodus e.t.c. not even a single RTX 2080TI is enough for max settings 1440p and max ray tracing.
I have
Cpu: Ryzen 7 1700
RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3200MHZCL15 GS KILL RIP JAWS
GPU: GTX 970 G1 GAMING
MONITOR: DELLP2416D 24'' 2560X1440 60 HZ IPS
HDD1: WD BLACK 4 TB
HDD2: 1 TB
PSUl CORSAIR 750M 750 WATT
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME X370 PRO.
While we dont know how much faster rtx 3000 willl be comapred to rtx 2080ti, it will be a dissapointment if it is only 30% faster than rtx 2080 ti. That why mabe will it be better to get 2 rtx 2080 ti's so i can get all the perfomance ray tracing needs?
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Ripping 2k+ USD for GPUs but pulling a 200 USD CPU.. come on...
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Ripping 2k+ USD for GPUs but pulling a 200 USD CPU.. come on...
lol just go for the 1080ti and call it a day then
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But it can definitely do 60FPS, how is it not good enough?

For 1440p 60 it definitely is good enough... but so is an RTX 2060 Super or 2070. That was the point; there's no point in getting a GPU that costs 3 times as much as one that can get pretty much the same result on his current monitor.
Since like Sandy Bridge CPUs didn't evolve much performance-wise, but graphics cards did, so IMO getting the best card one can afford is always a fine idea. SLI on the other hand sucks.
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Ripping 2k+ USD for GPUs but pulling a 200 USD CPU.. come on...
lol just go for the 1080ti and call it a day then
Hmm no, not @ 1440p. I've a 1080 and it does start having some performanceissues (very high settings tho)

RTX 2080 Ti and call it 100% a day.
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Ripping 2k+ USD for GPUs but pulling a 200 USD CPU.. come on...
it was costing 400 when i bought it in march 2017 and was one of the best cpu at that time.
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lol just go for the 1080ti and call it a day then
Hmm no, not @ 1440p. I've a 1080 and it does start having some performanceissues (very high settings tho)

RTX 2080 Ti and call it 100% a day.
problems in 1440p with a 1080? even the ti? i have a 4gb rx480 man and 1440 just fine man
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Ripping 2k+ USD for GPUs but pulling a 200 USD CPU.. come on...
it was costing 400 when i bought it in march 2017 and was one of the best cpu at that time.
If you consider buying the best of the best, you have to step up your game. We live in the second half of 2019, technology advances. So either you're going big or you go (even with a RTX 2080 Ti it is pretty big) "average".

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Hmm no, not @ 1440p. I've a 1080 and it does start having some performanceissues (very high settings tho)

RTX 2080 Ti and call it 100% a day.
problems in 1440p with a 1080? even the ti? i have a 4gb rx480 man and 1440 just fine man
I've no Ti, but it really depends on the game.
Отредактировано iza; 30 авг. 2019 г. в 13:07
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it was costing 400 when i bought it in march 2017 and was one of the best cpu at that time.
If you consider buying the best of the best, you have to step up your game. We live in the second half of 2019, technology advances. So either you're going big or you go (even with a RTX 2080 Ti it is pretty big) "average".

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problems in 1440p with a 1080? even the ti? i have a 4gb rx480 man and 1440 just fine man
I've no Ti, but it really depends on the game.
2070 then call it a day!
anyone here actually have crossfire or sli running?

I haven't had any bad luck with it recently, recently being the past 5 years. The last time I had a true issue where the game wouldn't run right on a game that supported crossfire and SLI and was expected to work-- was with Skryim in 2011 and Borderlands 1 in 2009. Both issues were with AMD crossfire and also both issues were fixed by AMD within a month of the game's release.

Any problems I have now are due to putzing about trying to get games written without multi-gpu support to fake it via config or profile settings. But hardly any games are so limited as to suck. I don't know about your motherboard and pcie lane availability for the listed build in the OP's post, but on a capable system that can at least provide PCIe 3.0 slots with 16x lanes on the primary and 8x on the secondary, it works pretty well. Even 8x and 8x works, but purists will demand all or nothing, so it depends on where you fall on the spectrum of purity. I am sort of dirty when it comes to my tastes, but I do appreciate a well built system...

Final Fantasy 15 took some tweaking, but.. overall, it runs Ok at 4K with SLI, and very smoothly at 2560x1440. Cindy can cause lag on a top heavy system that isn't well proportioned and focused only on the graphics.

That stated, it doesnt address any of the other issues. I would suspect that buying 2080tis for the purposes of running them in SLI to render games with raytracing support at a higher resolution than nearly everyone else, but in my opinion, that admirable goal is not quite worth the investment at the moment due to the fact that not too many games actually support the ray tracing. Sure that will change, but the prices will drop for those cards, too.

I won't go into the system build or tweaking or other considerations, but for the crossfire SLI--it works fine for me for what I do with it, which is mostly play games.

I don't have RTX cards and can't comment on the value proposition as to if the extra feature set is improved in SLI and if so, is it worth the extra money.

With this in mind, if you have any doubts but have the money, then think of what else you can spend it on, and just get one card and see how it goes for you. If you want more performance... then get card #2. Just be aware that even if it works as I suggest it might, you may not see the performance you want, but that can be situational--the system, the game, the expectations, etc. It could be you have the best 2560x1440 experience out there, but you'd never see it with the raytracing on just one card, not with a 2080ti anyway. Maybe if you wait for the 3080ti as you suggest, then perhaps you will--but do you want to wait for something that has no promises or prices and only speculation and hopes to define it?


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anyone here actually have crossfire or sli running?

I haven't had any bad luck with it recently, recently being the past 5 years. The last time I had a true issue where the game wouldn't run right on a game that supported crossfire and SLI and was expected to work-- was with Skryim in 2011 and Borderlands 1 in 2009. Both issues were with AMD crossfire and also both issues were fixed by AMD within a month of the game's release.

Any problems I have now are due to putzing about trying to get games written without multi-gpu support to fake it via config or profile settings. But hardly any games are so limited as to suck. I don't know about your motherboard and pcie lane availability for the listed build in the OP's post, but on a capable system that can at least provide PCIe 3.0 slots with 16x lanes on the primary and 8x on the secondary, it works pretty well. Even 8x and 8x works, but purists will demand all or nothing, so it depends on where you fall on the spectrum of purity. I am sort of dirty when it comes to my tastes, but I do appreciate a well built system...

Final Fantasy 15 took some tweaking, but.. overall, it runs Ok at 4K with SLI, and very smoothly at 2560x1440. Cindy can cause lag on a top heavy system that isn't well proportioned and focused only on the graphics.

That stated, it doesnt address any of the other issues. I would suspect that buying 2080tis for the purposes of running them in SLI to render games with raytracing support at a higher resolution than nearly everyone else, but in my opinion, that admirable goal is not quite worth the investment at the moment due to the fact that not too many games actually support the ray tracing. Sure that will change, but the prices will drop for those cards, too.

I won't go into the system build or tweaking or other considerations, but for the crossfire SLI--it works fine for me for what I do with it, which is mostly play games.

I don't have RTX cards and can't comment on the value proposition as to if the extra feature set is improved in SLI and if so, is it worth the extra money.

With this in mind, if you have any doubts but have the money, then think of what else you can spend it on, and just get one card and see how it goes for you. If you want more performance... then get card #2. Just be aware that even if it works as I suggest it might, you may not see the performance you want, but that can be situational--the system, the game, the expectations, etc. It could be you have the best 2560x1440 experience out there, but you'd never see it with the raytracing on just one card, not with a 2080ti anyway. Maybe if you wait for the 3080ti as you suggest, then perhaps you will--but do you want to wait for something that has no promises or prices and only speculation and hopes to define it?
yep crossfire on my rx480 daily brotha
Sod it, buy 2 of them, if you can afford it, there is no reason not to, I mean, it's pointless being held back by a 1700 and only on a 60Hz screen, but, hey, common sense doesn't seem to matter.

Besides, we all know you'll never do it so stop these bloody topics already or prove us wrong.
IF you're willing to pony up for 2x RTX2080 Ti, you might as well get just one RTX2080 Ti (and perhaps wait for the RTX3080 Ti/4080 Ti), the money that would otherwise go into the 2nd RTX2080Ti would be sufficient to overhaul your CPU/mobo. It should easily cover a 3700X/3900X + mid-high tier mX570 mobo.

I'd recently built a 3900X + GB X570 Aorus Xtreme rig, I'd retained my PowerColor RX VEGA64 Red Devil, and yes I know my gaming performance is being held back by VEGA64. It's fast enough to handle the games I play at 3440x1440 high to ultra (depending on the game) . I'm waiting for big NAVI 23 next year, rumored to have hardware RT, hoping it'd at least match RTX 2080 Ti in non-RT games and better at RT, and costs less than the 1k USD minimum asking price of the RTX 2080 Ti.

Edit - I have 2x GB VEGA64 Gaming OC in my 3960X rig, and for games that do support CF, it kills......Strange Brigade benchmark show >150fps at max ingame setting at 3440x1440.
Отредактировано UserNotFound; 30 авг. 2019 г. в 17:06
10 gb shared memory from crossfire! turned my 4gb card into a total of 6gb for gaming and 10 for graphic design only pros and Navy Seals can learn how to do this though wait for the 30 series so the 2080 go down to 500 and 2070 300$ the 2060 will be 250$ in no time
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10 gb shared memory from crossfire! turned my 4gb card into a total of 6gb for gaming and 10 for graphic design only pros and Navy Seals can learn how to do this though wait for the 30 series so the 2080 go down to 500 and 2070 300$ the 2060 will be 250$ in no time

No you didn't.

Also, sli /xfire don't share / combine memory, you have a 4GB card, that's all and chances are it runs worse than stock due to your messed up bios settings.
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10 gb shared memory from crossfire! turned my 4gb card into a total of 6gb for gaming and 10 for graphic design only pros and Navy Seals can learn how to do this though wait for the 30 series so the 2080 go down to 500 and 2070 300$ the 2060 will be 250$ in no time

crossfire doesnt share memory - Memory doesnt stack neither in CFX or SLi or NVLink - and you where never a Navy Seal - you have at least 15 violations with NAVPERS 15665I with your pictures. Aswell as many terms you threw out that wouldnt be used as such.
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