[Solved] 1TB M.2? or 1TB SSD?

[Cyber2B]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm just sticking with SATA after listening to CareyHolzman I already got what I need

Which one would be more reliable? The insides of my case get VERY hot underload which is why i'm worried to buy a m.2 for my main SSD

[Komrade]

Question doesn't make sense, are you comparing M.2 to 2.5"? If yes, it's the pretty much the exact same thing.

[Komrade]

M.2 is just a form factor, it doesn't really make a difference what you pick unless you're talking about SATA vs NVME?

[[☥] - CJ -]

SSD then, m.2's tend to get hot only when working hard though
so its up to you

Otherwise try to increase air flow, even if it means taking the side panel off.

[Cyber2B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af notkennyS:

M.2 is just a form factor, it doesn't really make a difference what you pick unless you're talking about SATA vs NVME?

Yes NVME. Regular M.2s really have no reason to exist at this point.

[Cyber2B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af ☥ - CJ - 8/6/19 - Meja 8/30/19:

SSD then, m.2's tend to get hot only when working hard though
so its up to you

Otherwise try to increase air flow, even if it means taking the side panel off.

Thanks. Regular SSD it is then.

[Komrade]

Oprindeligt skrevet af 𝓔𝓹𝓲𝓬𝓕𝓪𝓬𝓮:

Oprindeligt skrevet af notkennyS:

M.2 is just a form factor, it doesn't really make a difference what you pick unless you're talking about SATA vs NVME?

Yes NVME. Regular M.2s really have no reason to exist at this point.

Unless you're constantly moving large files, a SATA SSD would be more suited for you especially with the temperature concern. The average user can't even notice a big difference between the two.

[pasa]

The difference is only in place and packaging. The boxed ssd still sits in your case and its individual airflow is no better (probably worse) than the one attached to mobo -- unless special airflow conditions are at work.

SSD shall work to 70C and unimpeded to 50C. If your temp monitor shows more than 50 for the mobo you're already in the red regardless of SSD and should take some measures.

And for the original question I would go with M.2 unless there are very strong reasons for the opposite.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You don't need any airflow on ssds if sata or m2. Just the nvme or pcie ones.

[Vandals[UK]]

NvMe might give you slightly faster loading. I mean, all those 2000/3500 MB/s, you can hardly feel the differences unless you were doing video editing. Games might load 0.5 to 1 seconds faster and that's about it.

As far as temperature are concern, NVME is hotter, but not that it matters - as NvMe can withstand operating temperature of 70C plus. If it is really that concern you, strap an aluminium heatsink onto it. You can get one cheaply from eBay or AliExpress for less than £5 (I used the one that were held on by 2 rubber bands).

The biggest problem however is that: On some motherboard, if you insert NvMe, it will disable SATA port 5 and 6 (or 4 and 5 if you consider SATA starts from port 0).

[Zireth]

Oprindeligt skrevet af 𝓔𝓹𝓲𝓬𝓕𝓪𝓬𝓮:

Oprindeligt skrevet af ☥ - CJ - 8/6/19 - Meja 8/30/19:

SSD then, m.2's tend to get hot only when working hard though
so its up to you

Otherwise try to increase air flow, even if it means taking the side panel off.

Thanks. Regular SSD it is then.

That's unless you cover the drive. Some motherboards come with M.2 shrouds that also act as a cooler or that's what manufactures say.

Also don't put a M.2 in the top slot if you want it to not be super hot, a lot of components such as the CPU, VRMs, a GPU backplate are within the vicinity and its where most of the air is pushed out.

[SeriousCCIE]

Vandals, do you have firsthand knowledge of the performance differences, or are you rephrasing what has been written elsewhere?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Fix your temps?

[Vandals[UK]]

Oprindeligt skrevet af SeriousCCIE:

Vandals, do you have firsthand knowledge of the performance differences, or are you rephrasing what has been written elsewhere?

I've used SATA SSD in the pass AND I've been using NVME for 9 months.

Yes, benchmark spikes across the board:
AS SSD Benchmark:
Seq read/write 493.25 -> 2468.81 MB/s / 450.28 -> 1901.89 MB/s
4K read/write 26.36 -> 54.24 MB/s / 105.92 -> 193.32 MB/s
4k-64 Thrd 317.47 -> 853.76 MB/s / 201.91 -> 856.61 MB/s
Acc.Time 0.073ms -> 0.080 ms / 0.053 -> 0.041 ms

But in terms of actual performance. I seriously don't feel it in terms of loading games / programs. In fact, if you search youtube on SSD vs NvME on games. The difference is also very small. Most game you'll see 0.25 to 1.5 sec faster and that's about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AMz-xZ2VM

[Cyber2B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Rachel, The Promised End:

Oprindeligt skrevet af 𝓔𝓹𝓲𝓬𝓕𝓪𝓬𝓮:

Thanks. Regular SSD it is then.

That's unless you cover the drive. Some motherboards come with M.2 shrouds that also act as a cooler or that's what manufactures say.

Also don't put a M.2 in the top slot if you want it to not be super hot, a lot of components such as the CPU, VRMs, a GPU backplate are within the vicinity and its where most of the air is pushed out.

I only have a h310m aka the m.2 is sandwhiched between the gpu and cpu

[Cyber2B]

Oprindeligt skrevet af VandalsUK:

NvMe might give you slightly faster loading. I mean, all those 2000/3500 MB/s, you can hardly feel the differences unless you were doing video editing. Games might load 0.5 to 1 seconds faster and that's about it.

As far as temperature are concern, NVME is hotter, but not that it matters - as NvMe can withstand operating temperature of 70C plus. If it is really that concern you, strap an aluminium heatsink onto it. You can get one cheaply from eBay or AliExpress for less than £5 (I used the one that were held on by 2 rubber bands).

The biggest problem however is that: On some motherboard, if you insert NvMe, it will disable SATA port 5 and 6 (or 4 and 5 if you consider SATA starts from port 0).

Most motherboards support NVME anyways. Why bother with the old M shaped version if it takes 2 of your sata ports while NVME doesn't?