Chrispy 6. okt. 2019 kl. 4.33
rx 5700 xt / rtx 2060s with i5 6600?
PC Specs:
GPU: GTX 980ti
CPU: i5 6600
MOBO: MSI Arsenal B150M MORTAR
RAM: 16GB
SSD: 1275GB
PSU: Seasonic 620w

So ive been saving up for three years now, since i first built my pc and i think its time for a graphics upgrade. Ive been looking at the the rtx 2060s or the rx 5700 xt which are both around the same price in my country. The trouble is, my cpu is an i5 6600 non k and i think that it might bottleneck these beastly cards. I dont want to upgrade my cpu just yet as my motherboard can only support skylake processors so i would have to get a new mobo plus a new cpu cooler as currently im using the stock one and the new intel cpus dont include stock coolers. I also hate selling things because they always seem to sell for less than I expect. The 980ti is only worth about £200 second hand now, the i5 6600 i could sell for about £100 maybe and only £50 for the mobo :(. The less i have to replace and sell, the better. If i could just buy a new gpu, replace my current one and be done with that, it would be perfect but idk if that is the best course of action. What do you think? I need some advice from people who know what they're talking about XD.

I could get the i7 6700k but im not sure if even that cpu could handle the rtx 2060s or rx 5700 xt. It also draws alot more power than the i5 so idk if my psu could handle the extra watts.

Also, it might be worth mentioning that I prefer to play at 1080p with really high fps which i understand would put more strain on the cpu. Yet another reason to upgrade the cpu perhaps?

Thanks in advance to any replies :)
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Bad 💀 Motha 6. okt. 2019 kl. 4.47 
I'd just get a better cpu, update your bios and get a 7700K and a decent air cooler, such as BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Yes at 1080p, many games will rely on a strong cpu, especially if trying to crank out those higher frames, such as at 1080p or 1440p @ 144+ hz

Your current gpu is already very good for 1080p/144 though.

If you got an i7 class of cpu, then I'd look at 1080 Ti or RTX 2070 if you wanted a better performance gpu that would hold you over for many more years to come.

6th and 7th gen i7 aren't that power hungry really, only if you do a heavy OC will that really impact better PSU needs.
Sist redigert av Bad 💀 Motha; 6. okt. 2019 kl. 4.47
Chrispy 6. okt. 2019 kl. 7.10 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Bad 💀 Motha:
I'd just get a better cpu, update your bios and get a 7700K and a decent air cooler, such as BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Yes at 1080p, many games will rely on a strong cpu, especially if trying to crank out those higher frames, such as at 1080p or 1440p @ 144+ hz

Your current gpu is already very good for 1080p/144 though.

If you got an i7 class of cpu, then I'd look at 1080 Ti or RTX 2070 if you wanted a better performance gpu that would hold you over for many more years to come.

6th and 7th gen i7 aren't that power hungry really, only if you do a heavy OC will that really impact better PSU needs.
Just had a look on amazon and the 7700k is £340 which is almost as much as the 9700k. If i sold my i5 for £100 that would still be £240 for the better cpu plus an extra £30 for a cooler. Ive had a look at some performance charts and i dont think the jump in performance justifies the extra £270. I could buy one second hand but after multiple incidents with 2nd hand computer components going wrong, without a warranty, i swore to myself to only buy new components from then onwards :(. Owning a gaming rig is one expensive hobby XD
basiccTV 6. okt. 2019 kl. 7.45 
For the gpu department i would myself go for 2060 super while rx 5700 xt is a bit better 2-8 FPS than 2060s you dont have to be a "beta tester" for rx 5700 xt drivers which are horrible still even through it been already 2 months since lauch of rx 5700 cards.
Chrispy 6. okt. 2019 kl. 8.41 
Opprinnelig skrevet av HistoriiaChill:
For the gpu department i would myself go for 2060 super while rx 5700 xt is a bit better 2-8 FPS than 2060s you dont have to be a "beta tester" for rx 5700 xt drivers which are horrible still even through it been already 2 months since lauch of rx 5700 cards.
Yeah thats true but if i get the 2060 super i end up being a beta tester for ray tracing XD. But its still cool though. Currently the 2060s seems to be the cheaper one of the two say that may be the one i'll go for
Jelly Donut 6. okt. 2019 kl. 9.41 
The best CPU I would recommend using is the 6700 non K since your motherboard doesn't support overclocking. You should be fine on the PSU

the i5s from generation 3 - 7 are pretty much mediocre difference so there are chances your GPU is gonna get bottlenecked by the CPU.

Unless if you're going for a higher class GPU like 2070 or a 1080, then I would suggest going for a new motherboard and CPU like a B450 and Ryzen 3600 to unleash more power from the GPUs. If not, yea GPUs can get bottlenecked a lot by CPU

my workplace has i5-7400s and they get heavily bottlenecked and caused the GTX 1080 Tis to not perform at maximum. Had to go for like a 8400 6 core at least to really see the 1080 Ti deliver more frames.
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Autumn_ 6. okt. 2019 kl. 9.54 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toasted Chickens:
The best CPU I would recommend using is the 6700 non K since your motherboard doesn't support overclocking. You should be fine on the PSU

the i5s from generation 3 - 7 are pretty much mediocre difference so there are chances your GPU is gonna get bottlenecked by the CPU.

Unless if you're going for a higher class GPU like 2070 or a 1080, then I would suggest going for a new motherboard and CPU like a B450 and Ryzen 3600 to unleash more power from the GPUs. If not, yea GPUs can get bottlenecked a lot by CPU

my workplace has i5-7400s and they get heavily bottlenecked and caused the GTX 1080 Tis to not perform at maximum. Had to go for like a 8400 6 core at least to really see the 1080 Ti deliver more frames.
Why should he get a locked CPU? You still get increased clockspeeds from the k version...
It's not much, but it does help.

And, bottleneck depends on the workload; you could have a dual core with higher clock, and a 16 core CPU with lower clock (assuming IPC is the same), if you're playing something like CSGO, the dual core would perform better, because it's faster, because you can't use the extra cores, because the game won't see them. And the 16 core would bottleneck the GPU more, because the few cores it does use, are running slower.
Chrispy 6. okt. 2019 kl. 11.07 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toasted Chickens:
The best CPU I would recommend using is the 6700 non K since your motherboard doesn't support overclocking. You should be fine on the PSU

the i5s from generation 3 - 7 are pretty much mediocre difference so there are chances your GPU is gonna get bottlenecked by the CPU.

Unless if you're going for a higher class GPU like 2070 or a 1080, then I would suggest going for a new motherboard and CPU like a B450 and Ryzen 3600 to unleash more power from the GPUs. If not, yea GPUs can get bottlenecked a lot by CPU

my workplace has i5-7400s and they get heavily bottlenecked and caused the GTX 1080 Tis to not perform at maximum. Had to go for like a 8400 6 core at least to really see the 1080 Ti deliver more frames.
Holy cow the ryzen 3600 looks amazing compared to the intel offerings for the same price :D
r.linder 6. okt. 2019 kl. 13.47 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Chrispy:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Toasted Chickens:
The best CPU I would recommend using is the 6700 non K since your motherboard doesn't support overclocking. You should be fine on the PSU

the i5s from generation 3 - 7 are pretty much mediocre difference so there are chances your GPU is gonna get bottlenecked by the CPU.

Unless if you're going for a higher class GPU like 2070 or a 1080, then I would suggest going for a new motherboard and CPU like a B450 and Ryzen 3600 to unleash more power from the GPUs. If not, yea GPUs can get bottlenecked a lot by CPU

my workplace has i5-7400s and they get heavily bottlenecked and caused the GTX 1080 Tis to not perform at maximum. Had to go for like a 8400 6 core at least to really see the 1080 Ti deliver more frames.
Holy cow the ryzen 3600 looks amazing compared to the intel offerings for the same price :D

That's the beauty of AMD Ryzen. Actually amazing CPUs for a more affordable price, which defeats the point of going with Intel for the vast majority of users, because you get very respectable performance for less.

These days, Intel's chips for consumers are becoming more about ego due to the 9700K and 9900K being the best CPUs available for professional gamers. Not like they have a choice, because AMD keeps beating the crap out of their value below that mark.
Ruse 6. okt. 2019 kl. 14.49 
That CPU can handle both cards.
Fluorohydride 6. okt. 2019 kl. 17.26 
get the 5700 xt over the 2060s, the 5700 xt beats it considerably in performance.
r.linder 6. okt. 2019 kl. 17.30 
Opprinnelig skrevet av muskadillo:
get the 5700 xt over the 2060s, the 5700 xt beats it considerably in performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbi_-08CMN0 I wouldn't say considerably. They're pretty close in a lot of games.
Bad 💀 Motha 6. okt. 2019 kl. 18.48 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Chrispy:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Bad 💀 Motha:
I'd just get a better cpu, update your bios and get a 7700K and a decent air cooler, such as BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 4

Yes at 1080p, many games will rely on a strong cpu, especially if trying to crank out those higher frames, such as at 1080p or 1440p @ 144+ hz

Your current gpu is already very good for 1080p/144 though.

If you got an i7 class of cpu, then I'd look at 1080 Ti or RTX 2070 if you wanted a better performance gpu that would hold you over for many more years to come.

6th and 7th gen i7 aren't that power hungry really, only if you do a heavy OC will that really impact better PSU needs.
Just had a look on amazon and the 7700k is £340 which is almost as much as the 9700k. If i sold my i5 for £100 that would still be £240 for the better cpu plus an extra £30 for a cooler. Ive had a look at some performance charts and i dont think the jump in performance justifies the extra £270. I could buy one second hand but after multiple incidents with 2nd hand computer components going wrong, without a warranty, i swore to myself to only buy new components from then onwards :(. Owning a gaming rig is one expensive hobby XD
But then you'd need a new motherboard for Intel 9th gen cpu
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