Anyone with an Asus Matrix 2080 ti and long term experiences?

[Waldherz]

Im kinda looking into one since I can get one for a really good price. (having issues with the FE cards that i have so I want to replace them now after a full year)

What Im wondering about is the pump noise and performance in hot environments vs the Strix or other high end aircooled cards.

All I have so far is some info by Bitwit and Techpowerup

[CazadorDeLobo]

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He will loose a hell of alot of money on the 2 cards and gain negligible performance in games that don't support multigpu, of which, most non unreal games can be made to work.

If they don't want two cards, selling 1 and watercooling the other would be cheaper AND faster.

He got a year of use out of them both. Wouldn't really matter how much he loses reselling them because it's a matter of enjoying the PC and your games in that time. Of course he won't make 100% of the money back.

But I agree that doing a custom watercooling job might be cheaper in the short term, it's just that upkeep is a pain and the partner cards have nice features on them.

[Monk]

Yes, draining and refilling a loop once a year is a terrible pain heh, plus, the FE cards are faster given proper cooling.

I wish I'd not wasted the extra on my ftw3 extreme this time.

[CazadorDeLobo]

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Yes, draining and refilling a lop once a year is a terrible issue heh, plus, the FE cards are faster given proper cooling.

I wish I'd not wasted the extra on my ftw3 extreme this time.

He said he's having issues. I know people who have issues with the FE cards as well, unrelated to thermals. He wants to be rid of them, so the plan is to get a new card. So what if it's 5% slower than a watercooled card? It's a top-end card and he's not planning to break Timespy records, methinks.

[Jelly Donut]

(Galax RTX 2080 Ti SG Edition (Uses Nvidia FE PCB it seems) owner here)

Well, from my experience with GPUs thus far, the ROG Matrix 2080 Ti is insanely expensive and may not be worth the extra money due to its "Water Cooling Scheme". The only premium you're paying for is lower temps and a quieter system, but in terms of performance difference, it may not be a big one to pour more money out.

Unless you flash a vBIOS that allows you to really overclock your 2080 Ti without it's 110% power limit, more cooling won't really mean better performance to the price tag you're paying. Most air cooled 2080 Tis are strong enough, some even stronger than the Founders Edition as well.

Also, it depends on what frame rate you're targeting and the monitor you use. 2080 Ti handles 1440p very well, even at 144Hz, likewise for the 2080, the 1080 Ti and even the 1080. So you're more or less going overkill with the Matrix.

Last but not least, no matter what GPU you have, your case fans and turning play a factor. Depending on the motherboard and software you use, proper tuning even with lots of fans can get your system to stay whisper quiet at gaming.

Currently my build has 9 fans in a Lian Li-PC011 Dynamic. So after tuning fan curves, got it to run really quiet despite a hot day here in Singapore.

[CazadorDeLobo]

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Currently my build has 9 fans in a Lian Li-PC011 Dynamic. So after tuning fan curves, got it to run really quiet despite a hot day here in Singapore.

Where does the intake come from? I thought that case was specifically for cooling loop configs.

This is off topic I know. I agree with your other points, it's not a substantial difference, certainly not one to start sounding an alarm over.

[Jelly Donut]

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Currently my build has 9 fans in a Lian Li-PC011 Dynamic. So after tuning fan curves, got it to run really quiet despite a hot day here in Singapore.

Where does the intake come from? I thought that case was specifically for cooling loop configs.

This is off topic I know. I agree with your other points, it's not a substantial difference, certainly not one to start sounding an alarm over.

I use the side vent for the instake, which also has a 360 rad (Corsair H150i Pro) for my CPU.

Depending on your fan config, you can also put fans at the bottom of the O11 for more intake, though I won't recommend it since the grill can cause some turbulence whine, even if you use silent fans from good brands like Noctua.

It's more of a strategic design when science and physics come into play. More fans doesn't necessarily mean better (I don't put fans on the bottom, since the above reason)

I have about 6 Noctua fans and 3 RGB cooler master fans in my O11 though.

[CazadorDeLobo]

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turbulence whine

Do you mind elaborating?

[Jelly Donut]

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VACations....님이 먼저 게시:

turbulence whine

Do you mind elaborating?

It most cases since most fans are designed to intake air from it's rear, obstruction will cause "whining" since air intakes will be forced through the vents instead of the fan, which causes a bad whining sound, no matter what fan you choose.

I am not exactly sure how to elaborate this, but you can try it yourself. Take maybe a 2000 rpm fan and place its intake side against a case that has vents, you will hear an annoying whine, unless you flip it around as an exhaust, or not put any fan at all. This issue won't happen for lets say pull fans for radiators or if the intake vent has ample space from the intake side of the fan, rather than just mating it with each other.

[CazadorDeLobo]

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CazadorDeLobo님이 먼저 게시:

Do you mind elaborating?

It most cases since most fans are designed to intake air from it's rear, obstruction will cause "whining" since air intakes will be forced through the vents instead of the fan, which causes a bad whining sound, no matter what fan you choose.

I am not exactly sure how to elaborate this, but you can try it yourself. Take maybe a 2000 rpm fan and place its intake side against a case that has vents, you will hear an annoying whine, unless you flip it around as an exhaust, or not put any fan at all. This issue won't happen for lets say pull fans for radiators or if the intake vent has ample space from the intake side of the fan, rather than just mating it with each other.

Oh I understand now. Thank you.

[Jelly Donut]

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Oh I understand now. Thank you.

No problem. It's just a simple thing of air physics.

More fans don't always mean better; design, engineering and other factors do play a part when a company designs a pre built PC or if you build your own (depending on the case you choose as well)

I dealt with bad cases and spend money and threw away those because of their design. Some even cause very bad whines that force me to lower my fan speeds because if not my computer will sound like a slim rack server at full load D:

So yea, physics, science, maths and design still come into play! Heh

[Monk]

Heh the only cooling I have in my pc011 dynamic is the 3 fans on the h150i set to exhaust, still the 2080ti keeps fairly cool, but, that's mainly because watercooling it got put on hiatus, I've got the 3 rads and 9 fans awaiting me to buy the blocks and finish it off.

[Jelly Donut]

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Heh the only cooling I have in my pc011 dynamic is the 3 fans on the h150i set to exhaust, still the 2080ti keeps fairly cool, but, that's mainly because watercooling it got put on hiatus, I've got the 3 rads and 9 fans awaiting me to buy the blocks and finish it off.

I live in a warm area and am quite sensitive to the CPU temps as well. So didn't want my open air 2080 Ti to reduce the efficiency of my liquid cooler

[Monk]

Yeah makes sense, the plan was and is to watercool it, but, life happens heh, spent about £600 on stuff for the loop already, but then other stuff stole my attention before I can finish it off, it's a couch rig and stuck where I can't see it at the moment, so the need to make it look fancy is diminished a bit, plus, I'm not 100% sure it's all going to fit, by my measurements I should have 3mm of spare space so may need the newer larger version of the case.

[Waldherz]

Damn thats a lot here haha.
But yea let me explain real quick why Im going from 2 FEs in SLI to just one card.

First off, yes, SLI isnt what it used to and rarely gives me any performance boost in return of the much higher temps of the top card. I also no longer render so there is no gain for me there.


And now to the issues. I had to RMA them multiple times due to fans being uncontrollable, no video output, artifacts, dead LED and other problems and I still have issues with the current cards.
So I just want to have a single, stable card now hahah.

I love how active this thread is though!

[Monk]

That's some bad luck, went through 7 1080ti ftw3's with similar issues to get a working pair in my main rig, which, I tend to get sli working most of the time.

I still think you would be better to sell 1 then and watercool the remain g one, it will be better than the aio models, as I've said, kind of disappointed in the aftermarket cards this time round with my 2080ti ftw3 extreme not really worth the £400 premium.