Good news for Vega and Radeon VII users!

[UserNotFound]

Hey guys, I knew AMD was working on enabling RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) from a beta tester, but had to keep mum as he was under NDA. AMD has released Adrenalin 19.3.3 which bring RIS to VEGA and VII GPU's. I tried it on my main rig with a PC VEGA64 Red Devil and Voila! RIS is there in the Radeon settings tab! You can download it here -
https://www.amd.com/en/support

[r.linder]

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

[UserNotFound]

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

What do you mean? I had both the RTX 2080 Ti and the Radeon VII for a short while, and during the time I had them, I'd had no big issue.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

引用自 mikey：

Hey guys, I knew AMD was working on enabling RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) from a beta tester, but had to keep mum as he was under NDA. AMD has released Adrenalin 19.3.3 which bring RIS to VEGA and VII GPU's. I tried it on my main rig with a PC VEGA64 Red Devil and Voila! RIS is there in the Radeon settings tab! You can download it here -
https://www.amd.com/en/support

Thanks, downloading now will see how RIS goes.

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

Feel like clarifying your statement, have had no issues with my Radeon VII card for the past 6mths and runs like a dream. Best card I have ever owned and I plan to keep it for 1-2 years, no need to upgrade.

[r.linder]

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

引用自 mikey：

Hey guys, I knew AMD was working on enabling RIS (Radeon Image Sharpening) from a beta tester, but had to keep mum as he was under NDA. AMD has released Adrenalin 19.3.3 which bring RIS to VEGA and VII GPU's. I tried it on my main rig with a PC VEGA64 Red Devil and Voila! RIS is there in the Radeon settings tab! You can download it here -
https://www.amd.com/en/support

Thanks, downloading now will see how RIS goes.

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

Feel like clarifying your statement, have had no issues with my Radeon VII card for the past 6mths and runs like a dream. Best card I have ever owned and I plan to keep it for 1-2 years, no need to upgrade.

引用自 mikey：

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

What do you mean? I had both the RTX 2080 Ti and the Radeon VII for a short while, and during the time I had them, I'd had no big issue.

You're kidding, right? There are models of 2080 and 2080-Super that are cheaper, faster, and run a lot cooler than Radeon VII models... You can get a 2080 for 100$ less than a Radeon VII right now for the same performance, sometimes better, but worse in titles that run better on AMD GPUs. I was waiting for the Radeon VII launch because I had hope, and I'm glad that I waited long enough and decided to go with a 2080 instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zai12e6gDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dWosd7vKLE

AMD's whole shtick is that they deliver better performance than their competitors for less... This is completely against that idea, because you have a hit or miss whether or not it beats the RTX 2080 -- which was superseded by the 2080-Super -- and it costs more. It costs more than the Founder's Edition 2080-Super.
The biggest slap in the face is that the 5700XT comes relatively close to the Radeon VII in many cases, but costs way less. The Radeon VII was a complete flop in that it costs more than the competition, costs more than a later released model with similar performance, and its 3 fan cooler performs worse than the reference blower style cooler with the Navi cards.
A lot of Radeon 7 users were pretty pissed off after Navi launch, because they could've waited another 6 months and got very similar performance but for about half as much. Cheapest R7 is 700$ USD, while the cheapest reference 5700XT is only 380$ USD, and the cheapest board partner cooled 5700XT is 400$ USD.

tl;dr -- It's one of the worst GPUs that AMD has ever released. There is no reason to defend it, just because you were quick to go out and buy one without doing ample research.

And I know it sounds like I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on AMD -- I'm not, I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the hilariously bad GPU that is the Radeon VII.
I have 2 Ryzen builds, and I even bought one of their hoodies for their 50th anniversary.
I know AMD -- they've always developed things according to value above all else, but the Radeon VII scoffs at that with a hefty price tag for something that is a glorified space heater.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

I do plenty of research, always do when making large purchases.
RTX 2080 was around the same price as the Radeon VII in my country at the time I purchased it and every site I hit for benchmarks put it at similar performance.
As for Navi, I never play the waiting game because that is just a dumb thing to do, you'll always be waiting for the next big thing.
In the past 10 years of PC gaming I have owned 18 gaming grade GPU's, with only 2 of those being Nvidia cards (2 GTX 1080's 1 of which was purchased from retail and then gave it to my brother 2 days later).
Fans don't mean much to me, I tend to watercool them. 5 GPU setups were watercooled, 1 1080, my Radeon VII card and the other three were crossfire setups (triple HD 6970, R9 290 and STRIX RX Vega64).
I currently enjoy 4K and 1440p gaming with my setup and I am very happy with it's performance.

[r.linder]

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

I do plenty of research, always do when making large purchases.
RTX 2080 was around the same price as the Radeon VII in my country at the time I purchased it and every site I hit for benchmarks put it at similar performance.
As for Navi, I never play the waiting game because that is just a dumb thing to do, you'll always be waiting for the next big thing.
In the past 10 years of PC gaming I have owned 18 gaming grade GPU's, with only 2 of those being Nvidia cards (2 GTX 1080's 1 of which was purchased from retail and then gave it to my brother 2 days later).
Fans don't mean much to me, I tend to watercool them. 5 GPU setups were watercooled, 1 1080, my Radeon VII card and the other three were crossfire setups (triple HD 6970, R9 290 and STRIX RX Vega64).
I currently enjoy 4K and 1440p gaming with my setup and I am very happy with it's performance.

Custom loop is where the Radeon 7 actually shows its potential... but that drives up the overall cost and defeats the whole point of AMD.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

引用自 Escorve：

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

I do plenty of research, always do when making large purchases.
RTX 2080 was around the same price as the Radeon VII in my country at the time I purchased it and every site I hit for benchmarks put it at similar performance.
As for Navi, I never play the waiting game because that is just a dumb thing to do, you'll always be waiting for the next big thing.
In the past 10 years of PC gaming I have owned 18 gaming grade GPU's, with only 2 of those being Nvidia cards (2 GTX 1080's 1 of which was purchased from retail and then gave it to my brother 2 days later).
Fans don't mean much to me, I tend to watercool them. 5 GPU setups were watercooled, 1 1080, my Radeon VII card and the other three were crossfire setups (triple HD 6970, R9 290 and STRIX RX Vega64).
I currently enjoy 4K and 1440p gaming with my setup and I am very happy with it's performance.

Custom loop is where the Radeon 7 actually shows its potential... but that drives up the overall cost and defeats the whole point of AMD.

True but gone are the days when I buy AMD because they are cheaper. Apparantly Ryzen prices are on the rise, the X570 boards are up there with the Intel boards and if AMD release RX 5900 cards they will probably be up there as well.

[UserNotFound]

When people quote prices of, say, the RTX2080 vs VII, saying that the former is cheaper, not exactly true. I'm in Asia, and nVidia cards always, ALWAYS, carry a price premium. I can perhaps find an RTX2080 (S and non-S) for slightly more than the VII, or certain brands, like Zotac and palit, for about the same price. Back when I'd gotten the VII, the RTX2080 were selling for higher (price have come down a little). Anyway, the VII was a fun little project and I had some fun with it. Likewise, the RTX2080 Ti I had was fun as well....

[r.linder]

引用自 mikey：

When people quote prices of, say, the RTX2080 vs VII, saying that the former is cheaper, not exactly true. I'm in Asia, and nVidia cards always, ALWAYS, carry a price premium. I can perhaps find an RTX2080 (S and non-S) for slightly more than the VII, or certain brands, like Zotac and palit, for about the same price. Back when I'd gotten the VII, the RTX2080 were selling for higher (price have come down a little). Anyway, the VII was a fun little project and I had some fun with it. Likewise, the RTX2080 Ti I had was fun as well....

I would have liked to see better things from the Radeon VII, instead of just another mediocre gaming card only making sense overseas and really only doing very well as a workstation due to HBM.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

引用自 Escorve：

引用自 mikey：

When people quote prices of, say, the RTX2080 vs VII, saying that the former is cheaper, not exactly true. I'm in Asia, and nVidia cards always, ALWAYS, carry a price premium. I can perhaps find an RTX2080 (S and non-S) for slightly more than the VII, or certain brands, like Zotac and palit, for about the same price. Back when I'd gotten the VII, the RTX2080 were selling for higher (price have come down a little). Anyway, the VII was a fun little project and I had some fun with it. Likewise, the RTX2080 Ti I had was fun as well....

I would have liked to see better things from the Radeon VII, instead of just another mediocre gaming card only making sense overseas and really only doing very well as a workstation due to HBM.

I used to hope for the same things to from AMD, maybe one day they'll pull a "Ryzen" with their GPU's (I wish). Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy Nvidia cards just for better performance, only time that would happen is if AMD disappeared from the scene.

[r.linder]

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

引用自 Escorve：

I would have liked to see better things from the Radeon VII, instead of just another mediocre gaming card only making sense overseas and really only doing very well as a workstation due to HBM.

I used to hope for the same things to from AMD, maybe one day they'll pull a "Ryzen" with their GPU's (I wish). Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy Nvidia cards just for better performance, only time that would happen is if AMD disappeared from the scene.

They don't really have to.
As long as the price/performance is fair, all they really need to do is come close enough to the 2080 Ti that gives people the option of choosing. It's just enough to keep NVIDIA on their toes.

[Spec_Ops_Ape]

By the time AMD competes with the 2080 Ti Nvidia will have released another generation or 2 of GPU's, AMD can't compete with the 1080 TI now. And those new Nvidia cards will have a much better implementation of Raytracing with better support from game developers.

[UserNotFound]

引用自 Spec_Ops_Ape：

I used to hope for the same things to from AMD, maybe one day they'll pull a "Ryzen" with their GPU's (I wish). Doesn't mean I'm going to go out and buy Nvidia cards just for better performance, only time that would happen is if AMD disappeared from the scene.

I'm keeping my VEGA64's for the time being, my single PC VEGA64 Red Devil can handle Gears 5 at near max setting with 60fps locked, as well as the other games I play at 3440x1440. I'm holding out for big NAVI which is supposed to have hardware RT, I'll wait for the flagship NAVI to be launched before hopping onboard.

[DarkStarClassic]

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

You have absolutely no clue what your saying your just a parrot repeat what other baseless info they have on VII( I own one and it's areally good highend gaming card)

[r.linder]

引用自 DarkStarClassic：

引用自 Escorve：

Now all they need to do is fix how awful the Radeon VII is. But they really won't, considering it was more or less just an advertisement that AMD could do 7nm.

You have absolutely no clue what your saying your just a parrot repeat what other baseless info they have on VII( I own one and it's areally good highend gaming card)

I can seriously sense the buyer's remorse. Of course it's "a really good high end card" to you, you have to believe it because you bought it. My shtick is that it's horrible for the price.
The RTX 2080 is cheaper in most countries, runs cooler, and runs faster than the Radeon VII in the titles that most people actually care about.

Not to mention the 5700 XT is right on its heels and costs upwards of half as much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCpTUP7LFVs

It was a flop in gaming because it's not a gaming card, it's a workstation card. Gamers just bought it without even thinking.

Right now the cheapest:
5700XT - 439 Euros, 449 Euros for the cheapest non-reference
RTX 2080 - 609 Euros, 698 Euros for non-blower style
Radeon VII - 722 Euros for a 3 fan cooler that still doesn't stop it from running hot