i5 7500 and rtx 2070

[paulmason84]

Hi all,

I've been experiencing some serious frame drops in PUBG recently. I'm running an core i5 7500 with a rtx 2070. a bottle neck calculator suggested I have a poor CPU / GPU combination, but then other information says it's fine.

I've run MSI after burner and the temperatures all look to be fine. I am using 100% of CPU. Sometimes i'm getting <30 frames per second, which is ridiculous. Playing on 1080p with low to average settings but i'm still rarely getting 100 fps (i'd be expecting well over 100 with 1080p and the 2070).

I know PUBG isn't well optimised, but my friends running 2070 and 2080 don't have the same issue. Does anyone have an ideas please?

Thanks very much

PS I'm running 16gb or RAM too.

[r.linder]

It's going to come down to CPU in this case, and the i5-7500 is not particularly amazing, as it's still possible 2nd~4th gen i7s to completely stomp it, especially the ones that can OC.

Being a 4C/4T chip also doesn't help, but neither will temperatures, if it's throttling, so check your CPU temps.

[paulmason84]

Thanks for that - I suspected it might be down to that given the part-picker review. Guess I've got an upgrade to make!

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por paulmason84:

Thanks for that - I suspected it might be down to that given the part-picker review. Guess I've got an upgrade to make!

First and foremost, try to see if you can get a 7700K for a low price. Even at stock, it's a lot better.

[paulmason84]

Great - thanks for your advice

[Magma Dragoon]

Last time I checked the price of a used 7700k was about $300. For the same price you could a Ryzen 3600 and a b450 board and get 2 more cores and 4 more threads with similar performance core for core. Even if you got one for $200 that's still something used breaking even with something new.

[Snow]

PUBG is one weirdo of a game. From the tests I see PUBG often doesn't max out 4c/4t, but it can easily go up to 50% usage on 4c/8t and indeed shows better FPS. Although I also see some test showing constant 100+ FPS on i5 7400. That's really weird, considering how your results differ.
All I can suggest is checking if you run your memory in dual channel (Speccy or CPU-Z will tell you that), and also paying attention to all CPU-related settings - level of detail, draw distance, grass, whatever else that affects number and complexity of on-screen objects. And, well, there always is upgrade, yeah. Magma Dragoon suggests a nice thing here, these days Ryzen CPUs beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of Intel ones on price/performance.

[paulmason84]

Thanks both :)

[upcoast]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST-nTtqpXT0

In case you're looking more into it ^, 30fps just doesn't make sense I see in this vid the guy hits 75ish lows but not 30.

Ps, ryzen 3600 + mobo imho is better than forking over more $$$ for an i7 7xxx.

[Zireth]

I'm going to assume you have an ample amount of ram and don't need anything else.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTwWxG

[upcoast]

Escrito originalmente por Rachel, The Promised End:

I'm going to assume you have an ample amount of ram and don't need anything else.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTwWxG

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bg3yvn

I replaced the motherboard with a better x570.

Ps the msi x570 pro fails miserably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbyWKufthS4

10:17 the relevant starts ^.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por upcoast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST-nTtqpXT0

In case you're looking more into it ^, 30fps just doesn't make sense I see in this vid the guy hits 75ish lows but not 30.

Ps, ryzen 3600 + mobo imho is better than forking over more $$$ for an i7 7xxx.

Depends on how cheap you can get a 7700K. If it's 200$ then there really isn't much point in changing platforms.
It's also not just CPU + MB, but the RAM as well as I highly doubt that he has 3000 MHz RAM.

[Julien, cut it out.]

Don't waste your money on any hardware upgrade. The i5-7500 is a 7th gen Core i processor, it was released 2 years ago.
Your CPU might bottleneck the 2070, but nontheless you should easily achieve more than 60 fps. 4C/4T is still more than enough for gaming until the next console iteration.

Watch upcoast's linked video. Or watch this guy playing PUBG on ultra settings with i5-7500 & GTX 1060: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGAPPcfwCE

Did you activate the xmp profile in your bios?
Are there any other programs using your computer's ressources during gameplay?
This most likely a software problem.

[Zireth]

Escrito originalmente por upcoast:

Escrito originalmente por Rachel, The Promised End:

I'm going to assume you have an ample amount of ram and don't need anything else.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTwWxG

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bg3yvn

I replaced the motherboard with a better x570.

Ps the msi x570 pro fails miserably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbyWKufthS4

10:17 the relevant starts ^.

Noted. Why haven't they pulled it by now?

[upcoast]

Escrito originalmente por Escorve:

Escrito originalmente por upcoast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST-nTtqpXT0

In case you're looking more into it ^, 30fps just doesn't make sense I see in this vid the guy hits 75ish lows but not 30.

Ps, ryzen 3600 + mobo imho is better than forking over more $$$ for an i7 7xxx.

Depends on how cheap you can get a 7700K. If it's 200$ then there really isn't much point in changing platforms.
It's also not just CPU + MB, but the RAM as well as I highly doubt that he has 3000 MHz RAM.

Regardless of you concerns I have to believe OP will not be seeing 30fps lows on a Ryzen 3600/mobo solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9F0h7qP_g

With ^ ryzen 3600 ^.

[r.linder]

Escrito originalmente por upcoast:

Escrito originalmente por Escorve:

Depends on how cheap you can get a 7700K. If it's 200$ then there really isn't much point in changing platforms.
It's also not just CPU + MB, but the RAM as well as I highly doubt that he has 3000 MHz RAM.

Regardless of you concerns I have to believe OP will not be seeing 30fps lows on a Ryzen 3600/mobo solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP9F0h7qP_g

With ^ ryzen 3600 ^.

That's not relevant to what I was talking about primarily, you're picking at one point out of several. He'll get about the same performance with a 7700K as he would a 3600 in most titles, all depending on how they handle 4C/8T chips. But even in those games where 6 cores have a clear benefit, it's usually not massive when you compare them to the more recent i7-XXXXK chips, and more often within 10~15 FPS.

When it comes down to cost, if he can get a 7700K for cheaper than it would cost to replace the motherboard and CPU, which can easily add up to 300$ US even if he goes with a board like the B450M-DS3H or B450M Pro4. With X570, closer to 330~350, or more.