Final build/help ram tips + pc partpicker

[Witski]

So i mostly decided my final build ( already own the rx 590 ssd (not this one but a chinese one from teclast 480 gb) psu,the new parts are the moba cpu and ram)

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Witskii/saved/#view=YZKDxr

Like Escorve said i will need trident/g-skill/falre x rams 3600mhz to utilize the cpu without any issue whatsoever and other super usefull tips,but before i go and buy those expansive rams i want other people opinions aswell. Thanks :)
Also i need a case but for now i must stick with this old crappy one that i have now but i don't know the model of it and if the new mainboard will fit in it...i have an AssRock 960GM-GS3 FX but i don't know if is it a atx or what

[Snow]

The difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz is negligible tbh. It is there, but 3200MHz is more than enough to run R5 3600 just fine.
It's not that easy with the case tho. Old mobo's Micro ATX, new one is ATX. If your mobo takes all the place in your case - then a new one won't fit, else it most likely will.

[emoticorpse]

That ram doesn't look that expensive to me. Looks like a good price. Other parts look good too. How did you choose the cooler?.

[Witski]

Snow の投稿を引用：

The difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz is negligible tbh. It is there, but 3200MHz is more than enough to run R5 3600 just fine.
It's not that easy with the case tho. Old mobo's Micro ATX, new one is ATX. If your mobo takes all the place in your case - then a new one won't fit, else it most likely will.

Is not about the difference of performance between the 3200/3600 mhz but the compatibility,escorve say i might have some problems going with those corsair ram and zero issue with those other expansive ones..i don't know what to do,im looking a lot of videos about this situation...mostly from tech deals and he just say in the video those exact ram (corsair) will works but on a x570 mainboard,not sure about b450 max/updated mobas tought..
well the case is a problem then...the asssrock occupy all the space aviable and the rx 590 barely fits i have two fingers away from the hdd box.

[Witski]

emoticorpse の投稿を引用：

That ram doesn't look that expensive to me. Looks like a good price. Other parts look good too. How did you choose the cooler?.

i already have it for my phenom ,the stock one was a Jet engine on steroids so i choose the silentest one i find

[r.linder]

1. There isn't much of an improvement between the Wraith Spire and Pure Rock Slim. I would just keep the stock cooler, as it's good enough, and you won't be overclocking the CPU anyway.

2. You don't need 3800 MHz with a 1900 MHz FCLK, it's something to desire because that's the best possible result from Zen2, as small of a difference it may be in most games. At least in North America, Flare X and Trident Z Neo cost the same.

3. RX 590 is basically an overclocked 580... There really isn't a point in getting one. Just get an RX 580 instead.

[emoticorpse]

Witski の投稿を引用：

Snow の投稿を引用：

The difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz is negligible tbh. It is there, but 3200MHz is more than enough to run R5 3600 just fine.
It's not that easy with the case tho. Old mobo's Micro ATX, new one is ATX. If your mobo takes all the place in your case - then a new one won't fit, else it most likely will.

Is not about the difference of performance between the 3200/3600 mhz but the compatibility,escorve say i might have some problems going with those corsair ram and zero issue with those other expansive ones..i don't know what to do,im looking a lot of videos about this situation...mostly from tech deals and he just say in the video those exact ram (corsair) will works but on a x570 mainboard,not sure about b450 max/updated mobas tought..
well the case is a problem then...the asssrock occupy all the space aviable and the rx 590 barely fits i have two fingers away from the hdd box.

I would the corsair ram will work perfectly fine (unless you actually get a bad stick or something). I never pay attention to qvl but then again I don't overclock.

Have you looked on pcpartpicker at the finished builds section and seen if people used that ram with that board?. If they say it's good then it should be compatible. I really think that ram should work at stock. As far as oc he might be right.

[r.linder]

Witski の投稿を引用：

Snow の投稿を引用：

The difference between 3200MHz and 3600MHz is negligible tbh. It is there, but 3200MHz is more than enough to run R5 3600 just fine.
It's not that easy with the case tho. Old mobo's Micro ATX, new one is ATX. If your mobo takes all the place in your case - then a new one won't fit, else it most likely will.

Is not about the difference of performance between the 3200/3600 mhz but the compatibility,escorve say i might have some problems going with those corsair ram and zero issue with those other expansive ones..i don't know what to do,im looking a lot of videos about this situation...mostly from tech deals and he just say in the video those exact ram (corsair) will works but on a x570 mainboard,not sure about b450 max/updated mobas tought..
well the case is a problem then...the asssrock occupy all the space aviable and the rx 590 barely fits i have two fingers away from the hdd box.

It's not about compatibility, you're not understanding it properly.

The sole reason one would want 3600 CL16 is the ease of overclocking to 3800 MHz so they can maximize Zen2's performance.

Flare X is 3200 CL14, better for compatibility with the lower quality boards that have more spotty memory support.

[Witski]

Escorve の投稿を引用：

1. There isn't much of an improvement between the Wraith Spire and Pure Rock Slim. I would just keep the stock cooler, as it's good enough, and you won't be overclocking the CPU anyway.

2. You don't need 3800 MHz with a 1900 MHz FCLK, it's something to desire because that's the best possible result from Zen2, as small of a difference it may be in most games. At least in North America, Flare X and Trident Z Neo cost the same.

3. RX 590 is basically an overclocked 580... There really isn't a point in getting one. Just get an RX 580 instead.

I already have all the parts(cpu ,mainboard ,ram missing),and im using the rx 590 right now,coming from a 750 ti.

[r.linder]

Witski の投稿を引用：

Escorve の投稿を引用：

1. There isn't much of an improvement between the Wraith Spire and Pure Rock Slim. I would just keep the stock cooler, as it's good enough, and you won't be overclocking the CPU anyway.

2. You don't need 3800 MHz with a 1900 MHz FCLK, it's something to desire because that's the best possible result from Zen2, as small of a difference it may be in most games. At least in North America, Flare X and Trident Z Neo cost the same.

3. RX 590 is basically an overclocked 580... There really isn't a point in getting one. Just get an RX 580 instead.

I already have all the parts(cpu ,mainboard ,ram missing),and im using the rx 590 right now,coming from a 750 ti.

Yikes. Well you made a bad choice in model, given the price of the NITRO+ being a bit high for the target market that AMD cards are in with the mid-range. In some cases I've seen it cost as much as 1660 Ti models that beat it by a decent margin.

[Witski]

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Witski の投稿を引用：

I already have all the parts(cpu ,mainboard ,ram missing),and im using the rx 590 right now,coming from a 750 ti.

Yikes. Well you made a bad choice in model, given the price of the NITRO+ being a bit high for the target market that AMD cards are in with the mid-range.

was the best i can buy at the time,for like 200 euro,the 1660 ti was near 300 and the new rx 5700 was not even out ,it's a pretty good card at the end.. 100 euro more for like 10/20 in some games are not worth for me personally,and i don't even play modern aaa too,if i can get those 60 fps im more than happy ,even 40 or more lol,i just want the game to run without freezes and whatsoever

[Snow]

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Witski の投稿を引用：

I already have all the parts(cpu ,mainboard ,ram missing),and im using the rx 590 right now,coming from a 750 ti.

Yikes. Well you made a bad choice in model, given the price of the NITRO+ being a bit high for the target market that AMD cards are in with the mid-range. In some cases I've seen it cost as much as 1660 Ti models that beat it by a decent margin.

590 is indeed OCed 580, but I'd also take Sapphire over any other Radeon card any day, they're like the oldest Radeon supplier and the quality is decent.

[Witski]

Snow の投稿を引用：

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Yikes. Well you made a bad choice in model, given the price of the NITRO+ being a bit high for the target market that AMD cards are in with the mid-range. In some cases I've seen it cost as much as 1660 Ti models that beat it by a decent margin.

590 is indeed OCed 580, but I'd also take Sapphire over any other Radeon card any day, they're like the oldest Radeon supplier and the quality is decent.

Well this gold edition is made from sapphire to celebrate 50 years of amd,so at the end is a golden sapphire nitro + ( a smaller version too),ah that why i buy this instead of the blue version,this gold one is 26 cm(and consume a little less with her 12 nm) instead of the 32 i believe of the normal sapphire nitro +

[r.linder]

Snow の投稿を引用：

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Yikes. Well you made a bad choice in model, given the price of the NITRO+ being a bit high for the target market that AMD cards are in with the mid-range. In some cases I've seen it cost as much as 1660 Ti models that beat it by a decent margin.

590 is indeed OCed 580, but I'd also take Sapphire over any other Radeon card any day, they're like the oldest Radeon supplier and the quality is decent.

PULSE cards are usually much cheaper, and the difference in performance between PULSE and NITRO+ is usually tiny.

[Witski]

wel

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Snow の投稿を引用：

590 is indeed OCed 580, but I'd also take Sapphire over any other Radeon card any day, they're like the oldest Radeon supplier and the quality is decent.

PULSE cards are usually much cheaper, and the difference in performance between PULSE and NITRO+ is usually tiny.

Well,was discounted and cost like 30 more than a 580 so i decided to take this one..and it's gold lol and those extra fps ( i see a difference of 15 or more between the 580 and the 590 ,draw a little bit less power and because im coming from an old 750 ti those 30 euro more was worth it )

[emoticorpse]

Escorve の投稿を引用：

Witski の投稿を引用：

Is not about the difference of performance between the 3200/3600 mhz but the compatibility,escorve say i might have some problems going with those corsair ram and zero issue with those other expansive ones..i don't know what to do,im looking a lot of videos about this situation...mostly from tech deals and he just say in the video those exact ram (corsair) will works but on a x570 mainboard,not sure about b450 max/updated mobas tought..
well the case is a problem then...the asssrock occupy all the space aviable and the rx 590 barely fits i have two fingers away from the hdd box.

It's not about compatibility, you're not understanding it properly.

The sole reason one would want 3600 CL16 is the ease of overclocking to 3800 MHz so they can maximize Zen2's performance.

Flare X is 3200 CL14, better for compatibility with the lower quality boards that have more spotty memory support.

If he gets a lower quality board, the board itself might give him issues even if he gets great ram though right?.