Need help picking a surge protector

[Tidgem]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-BSV102af-SurgeCube-Surge-Protection/dp/B00OE46ELW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=surge%2Bprotector&qid=1568829464&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

https://www.staples.com/APC-Back-UPS-650VA-Battery-Backup-7-Outlet-with-USB-Charging-Port-BN650M1/product_2259351?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:2259351&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=2259351&KPID=2259351&gclid=CjwKCAjwq4fsBRBnEiwANTahcFNGaG0ggAl_pVCFCHBqzjfFwgl8Ug49LD_RjkNeXrfrUMu9hqN2IhoC_SgQAvD_BwE

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-BSV102af-SurgeCube-Surge-Protection/dp/B00OE46ELW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=surge%2Bprotector&qid=1568829464&sr=8-3&th=1&psc=1

I live in the UK and ideally would power my monitors and PC so I don’t know what works n ♥♥♥♥.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

A good strip is always good to have and should always be used for senitive devices over plugging into the wall alone.

For APC UPS, I would suggest something like..
https://www.ebuyer.com/238121-apc-back-ups-pro-865-watt-1500-va-lcd-230v-br1500gi

[Tidgem]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

A good strip is always good to have and should always be used for senitive devices over plugging into the wall alone.

For APC UPS, I would suggest something like..
https://www.ebuyer.com/238121-apc-back-ups-pro-865-watt-1500-va-lcd-230v-br1500gi

Thats incredibly expensive, whats wrong with the provided surge protectors?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What is your full pc config?

What else besides the PC would be plugged into the upc?

[emoticorpse]

I'd get the second one.

[Tidgem]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

What is your full pc config?

What else besides the PC would be plugged into the upc?

I use a 750w psu, R9 390 gpu, i5 6600k oced. Though im changing to that new setup somewhen.

Also id have 2 monitors plugged in and probably my phone and laptop charger when I get one.

[SeriousCCIE]

Maybe this helps...

I have bought a number of UPSes off ebay. All I had to do was replace the lead acid batteries.

In my present desktop, I actually exceeded the available wattage provisioning of the UPS I had plugged in previously... it unexpectedly died in a most triumphant fashion one day while I was playing vermintide with a CPU I had just upgraded to a few days before. It passed benchmarks--but not prolonged gameplay.

I could write a small book, but I'll save everyone from having to endure my experiences.

Ultimately, though, I have found that people sell "broken" UPSes that really just needed new batteries. I've got a UPS on everything computer/network related now, or a UPS with numerous things plugged in, with the only significant expense being the replacement of batteries every 3 years.

If you have never lost hardware that proved to be more expensive because of the lack of access to that hardware--than the actual ccost of the hardware itself--then it is hard to imagine justifying the purchase of a decent UPS. I've found that sometimes, it really is true that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

[Tidgem]

Messaggio originale di SeriousCCIE:

Maybe this helps...

I have bought a number of UPSes off ebay. All I had to do was replace the lead acid batteries.

In my present desktop, I actually exceeded the available wattage provisioning of the UPS I had plugged in previously... it unexpectedly died in a most triumphant fashion one day while I was playing vermintide with a CPU I had just upgraded to a few days before. It passed benchmarks--but not prolonged gameplay.

I could write a small book, but I'll save everyone from having to endure my experiences.

Ultimately, though, I have found that people sell "broken" UPSes that really just needed new batteries. I've got a UPS on everything computer/network related now, or a UPS with numerous things plugged in, with the only significant expense being the replacement of batteries every 3 years.

If you have never lost hardware that proved to be more expensive because of the lack of access to that hardware--than the actual ccost of the hardware itself--then it is hard to imagine justifying the purchase of a decent UPS. I've found that sometimes, it really is true that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Yeah I dont plan on buying from Ebay nor will I ever honestly. Too shady. Amazon is reliable as hell so I don't think id have these issues...

[Tidgem]

Messaggio originale di emoticorpse:

I'd get the second one.

Yes this is the highest rated one from my friend also :) Suggested by them ofc

[SeriousCCIE]

I had too small of a UPS connected and pulled more power through it than it was rated for. No matter where you buy it, just make sure you get one big enough for your needs. That was my only issue--it wasn't an issue with the UPS having been used, it was user error more than anything else. I'd never had the the issue before, and so... didn't think about it when I did my upgrade.

Either way, batteries will also need to be maintained over time. Make sure you know what type to buy when the time comes to do so!


Anyway, good luck! A UPS, wherever you get it from, a UPS is often worth it, even if it's just going to provide a few minutes of power.

[AustrAlien2010]

The way I read it, these things may function. It's not guaranteed they will function.
I have one. I believe it functions, but I have no logical reason to believe it does. You'll just have to assume those company technicians have done their math.

I bought one from a guy, who knew a guy from Trust, that knows a guy from China, that may or may not actually work there anymore... Because... well... it said trust.

In short: flip a coin, or maybe try searching for any standard certificates on it.

What is it exactly that I have, you ask? It´s the PowerProtector 510. I hope it helps.

[Cheezus Crisp]

Are you looking for a surge protector or a backup power supply? I don't really see a need for a backup supply unless you're running a server that needs the up time or unless you're not willing to deal with the down time if the power goes out.

If you're just looking for a surge protector I'd suggest you go for the Belkin one. I'm personally using two of the 8 plug versions and they have equipment warranty that covers the cost of your PC if it gets damaged during a surge.

[iceman1980]

Messaggio originale di Bad 💀 Motha:

A good strip is always good to have and should always be used for senitive devices over plugging into the wall alone.

For APC UPS, I would suggest something like..
https://www.ebuyer.com/238121-apc-back-ups-pro-865-watt-1500-va-lcd-230v-br1500gi

Don't buy stepped sinewaves PC power-supplies don't like them at all. You require a FULL-SINE WAVE based inverter. Such as this.

https://www.ebuyer.com/368309-cyberpower-intelligent-1300va-lcd-pfc-series-ups-cp1300epfclcd-uk

EATON has also been in the backup power business for a very long time.

https://www.ebuyer.com/663858-eaton-5sc-1000i-1000-va-700-watts-5sc1000i

Power-supplies have a feature for improving electrical efficiency called Active Power Factor Correction, power-supplies that don't receive the full-sinewave they expect can induce unnecessary ripple in the output signal.

https://superuser.com/questions/912679/when-do-i-need-a-pure-sine-wave-ups

[Tidgem]

Messaggio originale di Ceezus Crisp:

Are you looking for a surge protector or a backup power supply? I don't really see a need for a backup supply unless you're running a server that needs the up time or unless you're not willing to deal with the down time if the power goes out.

If you're just looking for a surge protector I'd suggest you go for the Belkin one. I'm personally using two of the 8 plug versions and they have equipment warranty that covers the cost of your PC if it gets damaged during a surge.

Yeah the Belkin is the one I think im going to get, though im going to get one with 2 usb sockets on it as well since it was barely any more expensive and the coverage on it was better.

Thanks all.

[ThatzYoAzz]

i would suggest using a back power source and not just a surge protector...regular surge protectors only protect your PC from surge that would be bad for it...and back up power supply is almost the same thing as well as back up power...in case there is a storm that knocks out your power...it will give u the opportunity to shut down your PC,aas opposed to just shutting down the instant you lose power...i use a tripp liteback up power source. its worked for me and everytime my power drops out i can shut my PC down the way it should be.

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[Bad 💀 Motha]

You can also easily test your battery backup time. Just have everything connected to it like you normally would, then to test the battery run-time, unplug the ups from the wall and the battery should kick in as if the power went out.