New PC or Graphics card upgrade?

[Migel]

So Id have enough money for a Brand new PC, the specs of which would be:


"CSL Speed X4931 (Core i7)" (Customized)

CPU: Intel Core I7-7700K, 4x 4200 MHz, Turbo up to 4500 MHz

CPU Cooler: HeatPipe Sythe Katana 3 (SCKTN-3000)

Boot SSD: SSD 250GB Samsung 850 EVO

1TB Seagate HDD

Memory: 16GB DDR4-RAM, Dual Channel, 2400 MHz, Ballistix Sport

Graphics: GeForce GTX 1070, 8GB GDDR5, ASUS EX-GTX1070-O8G, DVI, 2x HDMI, 2x
DisplayPort

Mainboard: Asus Prime Z270-P

And the standards, 7.1 Sound Card, An ATX Deepcool Dukase, A 500 Watt Power Supply.
This would run on Windows 10 Home.

Now this is quite costly, and my father tells me to just upgrade my Graphics card, as it is the thing that is keeping me from playing most new games on this PC. My current specs are:


"Acer Predator G3-605"
GTX 760 1.5GB
12GB DDR3
Intel Core I7-4770
1TB HDD
(No SDD)
Windows 8.0 Installed.
Now, is the rest of my setup, excluding the Graphics card still futureproof, and how inferior (if at all), is it to the planned new PC?

If I do buy a new Graphics card only, will it be compatible with the remaining Hardware?
(I am worried about case dimensions, ways of fixing it and connecting it to the other stuff (Screws, cabling etc) And wether the things they do conflict in some way. Could it be imaginable that an i7 4770 would be disadvantageous when paired with a more powerful GTX1080 8GB?)

If I stay with this PC, I'd like to install Windows 10 on here. There would, of course, not be an SSD. How much would that matter?



So here's the main question: Get this new PC (have it built, build it myself with the specified parts)

Or just buy a 1080 (Which?) and install it?

Also, whats the state of guarantee on these graphics cards? Buying the PC on CSL would give me a 24 month warranty. If the Card is damaged, or conflicts with the hardware (aka just doesnt work with the other stuff), can I send it back no questions asked?


I tried posting this on Tomshardware, but the login is glitched. As soon as I enter the forums, I get logged out, and trying to log back in causes only a refresh of the login site.

[upcoast]

"""""""Acer Predator G3-605"
GTX 760 1.5GB
12GB DDR3
Intel Core I7-4770
1TB HDD
(No SDD)
Windows 8.0 Installed.
Now, is the rest of my setup, excluding the Graphics card still futureproof, and how inferior (if at all), is it to the planned new PC?"""""
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Straighten out the ram if it's not running dual channel and get a Rx 580 8GB / GTX1060 or GTX1070, the cpu is fine.

Ps, double check what PSU is in there you may have to replace that also.

[Migel]

Although I can't find a model name, the Power Supply sais "500W". Any other important values to look for?

[a Hippobottomus]

Origineel geplaatst door upcoast:

"""""""Acer Predator G3-605"
GTX 760 1.5GB
12GB DDR3
Intel Core I7-4770
1TB HDD
(No SDD)
Windows 8.0 Installed.
Now, is the rest of my setup, excluding the Graphics card still futureproof, and how inferior (if at all), is it to the planned new PC?"""""
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^^^

Straighten out the ram if it's not running dual channel and get a Rx 580 8GB / GTX1060 or GTX1070, the cpu is fine.

Ps, double check what PSU is in there you may have to replace that also.

Can’t run 12Gb in dual channel.

[Migel]

Origineel geplaatst door a Hippobottomus:

Origineel geplaatst door upcoast:

"""""""Acer Predator G3-605"
GTX 760 1.5GB
12GB DDR3
Intel Core I7-4770
1TB HDD
(No SDD)
Windows 8.0 Installed.
Now, is the rest of my setup, excluding the Graphics card still futureproof, and how inferior (if at all), is it to the planned new PC?"""""
-----------------------------------------------------------------

^^^

Straighten out the ram if it's not running dual channel and get a Rx 580 8GB / GTX1060 or GTX1070, the cpu is fine.

Ps, double check what PSU is in there you may have to replace that also.

Can’t run 12Gb in dual channel.

What does Dual Channel mean here? Looking at my "nameless" motherboard, I can see 3 RAM sticks. Ill assume these are 4GB each.

[vadim]

Most probably your RAM is in the flex mode. Do not worry about the number of RAM channels - they don't affect FPS too much.

[upcoast]

Origineel geplaatst door a Hippobottomus:

Origineel geplaatst door upcoast:

"""""""Acer Predator G3-605"
GTX 760 1.5GB
12GB DDR3
Intel Core I7-4770
1TB HDD
(No SDD)
Windows 8.0 Installed.
Now, is the rest of my setup, excluding the Graphics card still futureproof, and how inferior (if at all), is it to the planned new PC?"""""
-----------------------------------------------------------------

^^^

Straighten out the ram if it's not running dual channel and get a Rx 580 8GB / GTX1060 or GTX1070, the cpu is fine.

Ps, double check what PSU is in there you may have to replace that also.

Can’t run 12Gb in dual channel.

^ 2x4GB = 8 and 2x2GB = 4, now we add 8GB + 4GB and it = 12GB, amazing, LOL.

Dual channel is equal ram running in the proper ram slots, your board is supposed to have 4 slots so check the manual and it'll tell you which slots to use for dual channel provided you have "sets" of ram ie 2x4GB, 2 x 2GB.

Ps, more than likely the 500w oem acer psu is poor quality.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdxFf7

Best bang ^^^ for the $34.90 seasonic 620w psu, very good quality.

Pss, measure inside from the back of the case along the gpus slot to as far front as you can go, most GPUs list the length in the description

[a Hippobottomus]

Origineel geplaatst door upcoast:

Origineel geplaatst door a Hippobottomus:

Can’t run 12Gb in dual channel.

^ 2x4GB = 8 and 2x2GB = 4, now we add 8GB + 4GB and it = 12GB, amazing, LOL.

Dual channel is equal ram running in the proper ram slots, your board is supposed to have 4 slots so check the manual and it'll tell you which slots to use for dual channel provided you have "sets" of ram ie 2x4GB, 2 x 2GB.

Ps, more than likely the 500w oem acer psu is poor quality.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XdxFf7

Best bang ^^^ for the $34.90 seasonic 620w psu, very good quality.

Pss, measure inside from the back of the case along the gpus slot to as far front as you can go, most GPUs list the length in the description

Not how dual channel works.

[upcoast]

@ Hippo, explain your views because they make no sense to me.

I ran 2x8GB + 2x4GB together both in dual channel.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1205380/2-different-sets-of-dual-channel-ram/10

[a Hippobottomus]

Origineel geplaatst door upcoast:

@ Hippo, explain your views because they make no sense to me.

I ran 2x8GB + 2x4GB together both in dual channel.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1205380/2-different-sets-of-dual-channel-ram/10

I apologize, was thinking 2 different sticks.

[tacoshy]

with the exption that there are no 2GB DDR4 sticks so you cant run 12GB in dual channel. You can only run 8GB in dual channel and the last 4GB in single channel.

[upcoast]

Origineel geplaatst door tacoshy:

with the exption that there are no 2GB DDR4 sticks so you cant run 12GB in dual channel. You can only run 8GB in dual channel and the last 4GB in single channel.

There'd be no worry of that on an i7 4770 DDR3, no point in branching off topic.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Your i7 4th Gen is still fine for few more years and yes it is capable to handle a GTX 1080. But a good brand 500 watt power supply is Recommended (Nvidia website) for GTX 1080 with one 8 pin PCI-E connector.

Your 12 GB Ram is fine. Since you have total 3 Ram sticks, It is running 8 GB on dual channel and 4 GB on single channel. You are not losing much. And there is only 0- 5% difference in performance between Dual vs Single Channel Ram, depending on the games.

As for your main question,
Yes your system is compatible. Just change the GPU , and you are good to go.

[Migel]

Origineel geplaatst door Cloud Boy:

Your i7 4th Gen is still fine for few more years and yes it is capable to handle a GTX 1080. But a good brand 500 watt power supply is Recommended (Nvidia website) for GTX 1080 with one 8 pin PCI-E connector.

Your 12 GB Ram is fine. Since you have total 3 Ram sticks, It is running 8 GB on dual channel and 4 GB on single channel. You are not losing much. And there is only 0- 5% difference in performance between Dual vs Single Channel Ram, depending on the games.

As for your main question,
Yes your system is compatible. Just change the GPU , and you are good to go.

Thanks, this answers it well!

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Also make sure you have enough space in your casing to fit the new GPU. Try buying a smaller Dual Fan model of GTX 1080, instead of big Triple Fan models.