Difference between dedicated graphics memory and shared graphics memory ?

[BooMerang | Bets4.fun |]

Recently I realized that I have 4 GB dedicated video memory and 8 Shared system memory. Can someone explain me the difference between them in a simple language? As I understood dedicated one is the main one, but idk are they working together at the same time or one is working and another is not. OR how do I do so both of them are working? Thanks in advance

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Same difference between System RAM vs PageFile
Shared VRAM (from RAM) and PageFile are both very slow, you never want the system to resort to using those. In your OS, doesn't matter what it says for Shared/Total VRAM; only Dedicated VRAM actually counts in Games.

[Omega]

Shared video memory is normal system RAM which is reserved for the graphics chip. You don't want to use that since it is very slow compared to Vram and will have a negative affect on performance.

[BooMerang | Bets4.fun |]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad_Motha:

Same difference between System RAM vs PageFile
Shared VRAM (from RAM) and PageFile are both very slow, you never want the system to resort to using those. In your OS, doesn't matter what it says for Shared/Total VRAM; only Dedicated VRAM actually counts in Games.

so the shared ram is total bullsh*t and there is no any use for it? Is it possible to kind of unite them and make them work as one thing.(sorry im a total zero in computer stuff)

[Omega]

If it was that simple and it would give you any improvement in performance it would have been done by default without any input from the user.

Shared Vram is only really used by integrated GPUs.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well no they can't work well together; cause System RAM is no where near the speed/bandwidth of GPU onboard VRAM, which is way faster.

Bottom line, always have a GPU that has more VRAM then you'll ever need, or turn down visual settings so it doesn't require more than your GPU has onboard. It's why many games show Approx VRAM Usage based on applied settings, directly in-game. Some games do not have that, instead may say "You'll want 4-6GB VRAM to apply this setting" something like that. Some games will not even reveal some visual settings to you, based on your installed GPU, to avoid users applying settings that would require more VRAM than the GPU has.

Same with things like:
> System RAM
> Drive Space
> Power Supply max supported output

Always get more than you need. You can easily do all of that in an affordable way if you don't go too overboard/overkill for your actual usage, or what you might need in the near future.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Omega:

If it was that simple and it would give you any improvement in performance it would have been done by default without any input from the user.

Shared Vram is only really used by integrated GPUs.

As I understood, the shared Vram (or integrated) is only used for video or photo editings. And dedicated vram is used for gaming, right?

[Omega]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Omega:

If it was that simple and it would give you any improvement in performance it would have been done by default without any input from the user.

Shared Vram is only really used by integrated GPUs.

As I understood, the shared Vram (or integrated) is only used for video or photo editings. And dedicated vram is used for gaming, right?

The dedicated Vram is used for everything if you have it.

[Kaihekoa]

What are your specs exactly? Sounds like you have integrated graphics which aren't really suited for gaming.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Shared RAM is not Integrated, period.
Dedicated VRAM is... that is the only VRAM the GPU has, period.
Shared RAM is when GPU runs out and needs to now buffer things via System RAM, which will bring overall performance of that GPU's task to a crawl as a result.

If you have ANY onboard GPU, yea then you don't go forward with that, with Gaming in mind. No onboard GPU will cut it for gaming. If you lack a dedicated AMD or NVIDIA GPU, that is what you need to run such things.

Onboard GPUs are meant as a simple inexpensive means for the user to have something for simple tasks; Multimedia, Office PC that doesn't need GPU for its tasks, etc.... the very basic needs to display a picture, not much more above this.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad_Motha:

Shared RAM is not Integrated, period.
Dedicated VRAM is... that is the only VRAM the GPU has, period.
Shared RAM is when GPU runs out and needs to now buffer things via System RAM, which will bring overall performance of that GPU's task to a crawl as a result.

If you have ANY onboard GPU, yea then you don't go forward with that, with Gaming in mind. No onboard GPU will cut it for gaming. If you lack a dedicated AMD or NVIDIA GPU, that is what you need to run such things.

Onboard GPUs are meant as a simple inexpensive means for the user to have something for simple tasks; Multimedia, Office PC that doesn't need GPU for its tasks, etc.... the very basic needs to display a picture, not much more above this.

Thanks a lot. Very informative (without sarcasm). I appreciate ur help :)

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad_Motha:

Shared RAM is not Integrated, period.
Dedicated VRAM is... that is the only VRAM the GPU has, period.
Shared RAM is when GPU runs out and needs to now buffer things via System RAM, which will bring overall performance of that GPU's task to a crawl as a result.

If you have ANY onboard GPU, yea then you don't go forward with that, with Gaming in mind. No onboard GPU will cut it for gaming. If you lack a dedicated AMD or NVIDIA GPU, that is what you need to run such things.

Onboard GPUs are meant as a simple inexpensive means for the user to have something for simple tasks; Multimedia, Office PC that doesn't need GPU for its tasks, etc.... the very basic needs to display a picture, not much more above this.

I am sorry to interrupt you, but how can I improve my pc? Should I buy a new graphics card? THanks again

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What all do you currently have for PC Specs & OS?
If un-sure of this, download CPU-Z (Click SETUP-ENGLISH)
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
and run that, then click VALIDATE > SUBMIT
CPU-Z will capture the basic hardware specs and OS version and upload that to a shareable database, once your web browser loads with that, simply copy the web address and then paste that in here. No personal data or OS keys are shared with this kind of system specs info sharing.

[BooMerang | Bets4.fun |]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Bad_Motha:

What all do you currently have for PC Specs & OS?
If un-sure of this, download CPU-Z (Click SETUP-ENGLISH)
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
and run that, then click VALIDATE > SUBMIT
CPU-Z will capture the basic hardware specs and OS version and upload that to a shareable database, once your web browser loads with that, simply copy the web address and then paste that in here. No personal data or OS keys are shared with this kind of system specs info sharing.

I think I have to change not just one part but completely change the pc itself xD. Bought it like 3-4 years ago. But still good enough for games like CSGO, Dota 2, GTA etc.
https://valid.x86.fr/pntke8 this is the link I got.