VinceG 20/out./2019 às 13:30
Is my pc low mid or high end?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
GPU: RX 5700 XT
RAM: 2x 8GB DDR4 3000MHz (Corsair Vengeance LPX)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo
Mainboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P
Última edição por VinceG; 21/out./2019 às 11:03
Escrito originalmente por Snow:
Either way saying your PC is high end or mid end won't make it perform different. You've got a modern gaming PC that'll let you play any games out there at nice settings and framerates, so just enjoy it.
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Niall 21/out./2019 às 1:23 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
You have a top notch super computer. Ignore these people saying mid-range. Yeah it's mid range if you do VR or 4K. If you play in lower resolutions like most of us and don't play terrible, unoptimized, triple A gambling, quick time movie pseudo games (heh rant feels good).

Look you have high end, just not enthusiast level.
Hardware sits on a scale, his hardware is midrange, no need to sugar coat it.
The only thing that actually matters is if he's happy with the performance.


Escrito originalmente por chiefputsilao✖️ping:
not top tier cpu, not top tier gpu, not low end parts either, therefore, mid range.
Exactly.
It will run all games a lightening speed. It's high end. Just because the 3600 is like lower down the scale it still demolishes everything in sight. Especially whacking it up to 4.2Ghz like mine is. Oh will it be 10 fps behind the leader....wow! when you are talking plus 144 frames in virtually all games it don't matter.

Saying it is mid-range will just make the noobs play their games on medium. His machine will run everything with the eye candy on max and beg for more. If he has the right drivers.

So for gaming it is top tier.
Última edição por Niall; 21/out./2019 às 1:33
Niall 21/out./2019 às 1:29 
Escrito originalmente por VinceG:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
GPU: RX 5700 XT
RAM: 2x 8GB DDR3 3000MHz (Corsair Vengeance LPX)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo
Mainboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P
Make sure you have a Gold rated power supply unit and it is at least 650 Watts. The 5700 XT likes quality power or it will bug out your monitor to no signal and crash/restart your system.

Drivers 19.8.2 is working decently other say 19.7.5
Autumn_ 21/out./2019 às 1:43 
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Hardware sits on a scale, his hardware is midrange, no need to sugar coat it.
The only thing that actually matters is if he's happy with the performance.



Exactly.
It will run all games a lightening speed. It's high end. Just because the 3600 is like lower down the scale it still demolishes everything in sight. Especially whacking it up to 4.2Ghz like mine is. Oh will it be 10 fps behind the leader....wow! when you are talking plus 144 frames in virtually all games it don't matter.

Saying it is mid-range will just make the noobs play their games on medium. His machine will run everything with the eye candy on max and beg for more. If he has the right drivers.
'Lighting speed', lmao.
Hardware is objective, not subjective.
His hardware is midrange, that's a fact.
That doesn't mean it will perform bad.... I don't know why you're making this silly connection of "mid =/= bad".

Overclocking on Ryzen 3000 series is pretty pointless, since they manage their clocks so well, you'll get the same performance, or even higher performance (depending on workload.)

I don't see where hardware is placed on a performance scale has to do with in-game settings.
But that's simply not true, most people will turn their game settings up as high as they can regardless of hardware.
(Unless they play CSGO, lmao.)

Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
Escrito originalmente por VinceG:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
GPU: RX 5700 XT
RAM: 2x 8GB DDR3 3000MHz (Corsair Vengeance LPX)
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo
Mainboard: ASUS PRIME X570-P
Make sure you have a Gold rated power supply unit and it is at least 650 Watts. The 5700 XT likes quality power or it will bug out your monitor to no signal and crash/restart your system.

Drivers 19.8.2 is working decently other say 19.7.5
Effiecency rating doesn't dictate how 'clean' the power is that comes through AFAIK.
It's only how much power is lost as heat converting from AC to DC.
And, what you just discribed sounds like you didn't have a PSU with enough wattage, nothing to do with 'how clean the electricty is.'
and it is DDR4 memory, not DDR3
FeilDOW 21/out./2019 às 2:12 
It's whatever you want it to be. I would consider the CPU mid but the GPU is high IMO, but this is if you consider a ultrahigh/enthusiest category for the 2080s and 2080 ti.

tacoshy 21/out./2019 às 2:24 
There so many stages after high end like enthusiast grade.
Super Computer is far away from it. A super computer literally has hundreds of CPU's like the Xeon Phi 72 Core. Also TB's of ECC RAM. There is a reason why there aren't to many.

For the question of high or Mid Range, you simply have to look where something sit in the market:

1650
1650 Ti
1660
1660Ti
2060
2070
2070S
2080
2080S
2080 Ti

So the 2070 or respectable the 5700XT that sits somewhere between 2070 and 2070S is definitely not at the high end but at the high mid.

For CPU you also have better CPU's even with exception of Intel.

So hardwarewise it sits in the mid-range.
Which does not mean that games also only play with mid performance. There is way more demanding stuff then mere simple games for pc's. That games can't fully utilize a PC performance.

So mid-range is more then perfect for games unless you want to do more then gaming or do stuff like streaming at the same time or playing at highest resolution and settings.


Niall 21/out./2019 às 3:09 
Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:
There so many stages after high end like enthusiast grade.
Super Computer is far away from it. A super computer literally has hundreds of CPU's like the Xeon Phi 72 Core. Also TB's of ECC RAM. There is a reason why there aren't to many.

For the question of high or Mid Range, you simply have to look where something sit in the market:

1650
1650 Ti
1660
1660Ti
2060
2070
2070S
2080
2080S
2080 Ti

So the 2070 or respectable the 5700XT that sits somewhere between 2070 and 2070S is definitely not at the high end but at the high mid.

For CPU you also have better CPU's even with exception of Intel.

So hardwarewise it sits in the mid-range.
Which does not mean that games also only play with mid performance. There is way more demanding stuff then mere simple games for pc's. That games can't fully utilize a PC performance.

So mid-range is more then perfect for games unless you want to do more then gaming or do stuff like streaming at the same time or playing at highest resolution and settings.
What a lovely eloquent explanation. Yes I guess a higher mid end setup it is then :)
Autumn_ 21/out./2019 às 3:35 
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
Escrito originalmente por tacoshy:
There so many stages after high end like enthusiast grade.
Super Computer is far away from it. A super computer literally has hundreds of CPU's like the Xeon Phi 72 Core. Also TB's of ECC RAM. There is a reason why there aren't to many.

For the question of high or Mid Range, you simply have to look where something sit in the market:

1650
1650 Ti
1660
1660Ti
2060
2070
2070S
2080
2080S
2080 Ti

So the 2070 or respectable the 5700XT that sits somewhere between 2070 and 2070S is definitely not at the high end but at the high mid.

For CPU you also have better CPU's even with exception of Intel.

So hardwarewise it sits in the mid-range.
Which does not mean that games also only play with mid performance. There is way more demanding stuff then mere simple games for pc's. That games can't fully utilize a PC performance.

So mid-range is more then perfect for games unless you want to do more then gaming or do stuff like streaming at the same time or playing at highest resolution and settings.
What a lovely eloquent explanation. Yes I guess a higher mid end setup it is then :)
How does a middle have an end?
FeilDOW 21/out./2019 às 3:58 
Low, mid , high or enthusiest all have a low and high end. This is because more than one GPU with varying performance fit in the same bracket.
Última edição por FeilDOW; 21/out./2019 às 4:22
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Snow 21/out./2019 às 9:34 
Either way saying your PC is high end or mid end won't make it perform different. You've got a modern gaming PC that'll let you play any games out there at nice settings and framerates, so just enjoy it.
Última edição por Snow; 21/out./2019 às 9:34
VinceG 21/out./2019 às 11:01 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
You have a top notch super computer. Ignore these people saying mid-range. Yeah it's mid range if you do VR or 4K. If you play in lower resolutions like most of us and don't play terrible, unoptimized, triple A gambling, quick time movie pseudo games (heh rant feels good).

Look you have high end, just not enthusiast level.
Hardware sits on a scale, his hardware is midrange, no need to sugar coat it.
The only thing that actually matters is if he's happy with the performance.


Escrito originalmente por chiefputsilao✖️ping:
not top tier cpu, not top tier gpu, not low end parts either, therefore, mid range.
Exactly.

I play on 1080p. Can play the newst games on high/max Settings very smoothly.

Escrito originalmente por chiefputsilao✖️ping:
and it is DDR4 memory, not DDR3
Thanks... also meant DDR4... ,_, Sorry.

Escrito originalmente por Snow:
Either way saying your PC is high end or mid end won't make it perform different. You've got a modern gaming PC that'll let you play any games out there at nice settings and framerates, so just enjoy it.

Yep.. as i said: I can play every game on high/max settings and 1080p with at least 144 fps (most of the games are 200+).

I've build the computer a few weeks ago to get a the cheapest and best gaming rig and i think it was a great success. Thanks for all the replies :)
Niall 21/out./2019 às 11:38 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
What a lovely eloquent explanation. Yes I guess a higher mid end setup it is then :)
How does a middle have an end?
When the high end starts. That's how
Autumn_ 21/out./2019 às 11:45 
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
How does a middle have an end?
When the high end starts. That's how
That doesn't make sense.
Niall 21/out./2019 às 11:46 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
When the high end starts. That's how
That doesn't make sense.
The mid range has an end where the high end starts.
FeilDOW 21/out./2019 às 13:52 
Escrito originalmente por Autumn:
Escrito originalmente por Ohm:
When the high end starts. That's how
That doesn't make sense.
I guess for it to make sense to you every GPU would need it's own category.
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