HyperX IIs Sound AWFUL which option should I choose to fix it

[kernAL_PAn!c]

So I got a pair ofr these for xmas and without the USB device they ound amazing. I was thinking of buying a headphone jack splitter so I can use them with my speakers and use my mic (doubt will work).
Currently I can only them for that, my PCs boards in built quality is awful as well.
Should I consider buying a good sound card in that event or buy one anyway?

Or should I retirn them for tthe other HyperX Cloud headset

[Revelene]

Most built in sound is plenty for gaming headsets.

What motherboard do you have?

I'd not recommend getting a dedicated sound card for a gaming headset... It's like putting higher grade fuel into a slow car. It won't go any faster and will be a waste.

Get better headphones. Not a headset. Gaming headsets sacrifice quality and focus more on marketing.

[Kaihekoa]

The original HyperX Cloud's are a good value still. When you use the Cloud 2s with the USB adapter are you in virtual surround sound mode? That can make stereo input from music sound like crap. If you are happy with the sound without the adapter, you should be happy with the original HyperX Cloud. The Cloud 2 just added virtual surround sound via the USB adapter and better inline control on the cord.

[kernAL_PAn!c]

Nah I'm in stereo mode and I'm on a GA-Z77X-D3H but any headphone jack goes into my Creative T20 speakers.
Why is it said gaming headsets are bad I don't see why, because is has a built in mic?

Also surly a sound card would output higher quality audio and make it sound better? It's improving the output allowing the input audio get the best it can? The original HyperX Cloud simply has one headphone jack and one microphone jack, no USB cable.

[Revelene]

Originally posted by pnKed:

Nah I'm in stereo mode and I'm on a GA-Z77X-D3H but any headphone jack goes into my Creative T20 speakers.
Why is it said gaming headsets are bad I don't see why, because is has a built in mic?

Also surly a sound card would output higher quality audio and make it sound better? It's improving the output allowing the input audio get the best it can? The original HyperX Cloud simply has one headphone jack and one microphone jack, no USB cable.

Marketing. They focus development on marketing. Uses cheap drivers and mics. Overpriced for what you get. That is why.

A sound card will not magically make your sound better. You are already getting a 110dB SNR. Your headphones are not good enough for any additional clarity to have any substantial impact.

You are limited by the cheap drivers (the physical speakers themselves).

I recommend getting higher quality headphones and a higher quality mic. If you need help finding a combination under a set budget, I can help.

[kernAL_PAn!c]

Originally posted by Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Most built in sound is plenty for gaming headsets.

What motherboard do you have?

I'd not recommend getting a dedicated sound card for a gaming headset... It's like putting higher grade fuel into a slow car. It won't go any faster and will be a waste.

Get better headphones. Not a headset. Gaming headsets sacrifice quality and focus more on marketing.

I agree, they often are. I remember seeing things like hear your enemies foot steps before you do and all that nonsense. Oddly enough when you have a better pair of headphones you do so it's not headsets are bad, it's a lot of companys make bad headsets? If I can under £100 to be honest for both mic and headphones

Btw cheap drivers yeah I havn't heard amazing £200+ quality but I can hear bad audio when I know it's there even if people say it isn't. Like the HyperX

[Revelene]

Originally posted by pnKed:

Originally posted by Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Most built in sound is plenty for gaming headsets.

What motherboard do you have?

I'd not recommend getting a dedicated sound card for a gaming headset... It's like putting higher grade fuel into a slow car. It won't go any faster and will be a waste.

Get better headphones. Not a headset. Gaming headsets sacrifice quality and focus more on marketing.

I agree, they often are. I remember seeing things like hear your enemies foot steps before you do and all that nonsense. Oddly enough when you have a better pair of headphones you do so it's not headsets are bad, it's a lot of companys make bad headsets? If I can under £100 to be honest for both mic and headphones

Btw cheap drivers yeah I havn't heard amazing £200+ quality but I can hear bad audio when I know it's there even if people say it isn't. Like the HyperX

You should be able to get headphones and a mic within that budget.

There are so many variables with headphones, that the "best" pair for you, within your budget, may not be the "best" for someone else. So many variables, like open/closed back, different sound profiles, on ear/over ear, etc.

I'll list a few recommendations, so you can try and decide what fits you better.

- Audio Technica M40X (~£70)
- Sennheiser HD 518 (~£65)
- AKG K240 (~£60)

As for the mic, it depends on the headphones. If it has a detachable cable, then a Boom Pro from V-MODA (~£30) will work wonders. If not, a Mod Mic from Antlion (~£50) would work, but would put you a little over budget. You could also get a clip on mic, which would be pretty cheap, but also sacrifice quality.

You could also consider a cheap desktop mic.

I don't really have much experience with mics for communication, so sorry on that end. Most of my microphone experience is with higher end, full fat microphones for music and vocals. Maybe someone can chime in on that point.

[Andrius227]

I have a couple of Cloud II's and they are amazing. I don't use the usb thing and i have a 3.5mm splitter for the mic. Have you tried plugging it directly into the motherboard and not the speakers or front of the pc ?

[kernAL_PAn!c]

It's always in the speakers, they're connected to my motherboards headphone jack via an extension cable.
I have tried listening to it directly but it's a bit staticy. The jack on the Cloud IIs is very tight and imo doesn't fit well

[kernAL_PAn!c]

I have to admit, a high quality mic is my last thought. A good one with no popping or white noise and I'm happy. I much prefer audio, just don't know how I'd put on a mic and headphones comfortbly...

[Revelene]

Originally posted by pnKed:

I have to admit, a high quality mic is my last thought. A good one with no popping or white noise and I'm happy. I much prefer audio, just don't know how I'd put on a mic and headphones comfortbly...

The M40x will work with the Boom Pro mic, though you do have to modify the locking mechanism and use a cheap 2.5 to 3.5mm adapter. Look up the Boom Pro to see how it works, but in short, it replaces the cable from the headphones (this is why you need headphones with a removable cable) and then has a Y splitter for headphones and mic. A lot of cheaper headphones have 2.5mm jacks, so adapters are typically needed to use the Boom Pro, which uses 3.5mm.

The Mod Mic would stick to the side of the headphones, and have its own seperate cable. This would make it easier for the headphones with 2.5mm jacks, but it does cost more.

[Andrius227]

Don't try to fix something that isn't broken, aka your headphones. The problem is probably in your pc. Try to test the headphones on a different device, such as a phone or a stereo or a different pc. If they work fine on other devices, then it's surely your pc that needs fixing.

[Revelene]

Originally posted by Andrius227:

Don't try to fix something that isn't broken, aka your headphones. The problem is probably in your pc. Try to test the headphones on a different device, such as a phone or a stereo or a different pc. If they work fine on other devices, then it's surely your pc that needs fixing.

In the end, you can only make the headphones sound as good as they can... And the fact is, they are low end.

The first ones were good, only because you could get them for 60 USD or less. It was only good because of the quality per dollar. The second version bumps the price up and for no real good reason.

[Andrius227]

Originally posted by Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Originally posted by Andrius227:

Don't try to fix something that isn't broken, aka your headphones. The problem is probably in your pc. Try to test the headphones on a different device, such as a phone or a stereo or a different pc. If they work fine on other devices, then it's surely your pc that needs fixing.

In the end, you can only make the headphones sound as good as they can... And the fact is, they are low end.

The first ones were good, only because you could get them for 60 USD or less. It was only good because of the quality per dollar. The second version bumps the price up and for no real good reason.

They are still very good. Low end are the ones that cost ~$10. And if the problem is indeed in his computer, new more expensive headphones would not change anything.

I myself have cloud II's and they sound amazing. Best headphones i ever had. Don't understand how can anyone call them 'low end'.

[Revelene]

Originally posted by Andrius227:

Originally posted by Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

In the end, you can only make the headphones sound as good as they can... And the fact is, they are low end.

The first ones were good, only because you could get them for 60 USD or less. It was only good because of the quality per dollar. The second version bumps the price up and for no real good reason.

They are still very good. Low end are the ones that cost ~$10. And if the problem is indeed in his computer, new more expensive headphones would not change anything.

I myself have cloud II's and they sound amazing. Best headphones i ever had. Don't understand how can anyone call them 'low end'.

If you believe they sound "amazing", then you clearly have limited experience with headphones. Or even limited experience with audio in general.

They use low end drivers. For what they cost (100 USD), better can be had. Even just a little over that and you start to enter grounds where you can get some better quality per dollar headphones.

Again, the original HyperX was only good because of the low price (60 USD or less). HyperX 2 comes in at a higher price point because of the included USB sound card... and it is not worth it. Cramming a bunch of cheap hardware only bumps the price, but adds nothing of value.

If you don't believe me, then take out and inspect the drivers yourself. Cheap drivers. No way around it, bud.

EDIT: Funny fact... the HyperX seems to have gone up in price to 80 USD. They used to cost 50-60 USD from a lot of outlets. Heh. Looks like a price move to sway people into getting the newer model.

[Andrius227]

Originally posted by Bill S. Preston, Esquire:

Originally posted by Andrius227:

They are still very good. Low end are the ones that cost ~$10. And if the problem is indeed in his computer, new more expensive headphones would not change anything.

I myself have cloud II's and they sound amazing. Best headphones i ever had. Don't understand how can anyone call them 'low end'.

If you believe they sound "amazing", then you clearly have limited experience with headphones. Or even limited experience with audio in general.

They use low end drivers. For what they cost (100 USD), better can be had. Even just a little over that and you start to enter grounds where you can get some better quality per dollar headphones.

Again, the original HyperX was only good because of the low price. HyperX 2 comes in at a higher price point because of the included USB sound card... and it is not worth it. Cramming a bunch of cheap hardware only bumps the price, but adds nothing of value.

If you don't believe me, then take out and inspect the drivers yourself. Cheap drivers. No way around it, bud.

I never used $300+ headphones, true. But i do think that cloud II's sound amazing still. Sure they are not THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN THE WORLD, but they are still great for the price. And i repeat again, if the problem is indeed in his computer, new headphones would not help no matter how expensive they are.

And all the reviews i seen (not many) rate them quite highly too.