scott Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:13pm
Is my ram bad?
Hello! Recently i've been having problems since i've inserted my new CPU, where games like DayZ and Arma constantly freeze, or give me a "Out of memory, Requested 0kb" Error. I also noticed that things that used to be lightning fast such as opening teamspeak/connecting to server, or simple things like googling something are now delayed, and sometimes even crash.


Every time now that I open TS it almost crashes and has a huge delay, never did that before. It appears that more and more things are becoming slower, and I'm wondering if it's my new CPU (doubt it) Ram, Or storage (I have HDD and SDD so it would be fun figuring out which is corrupted if it is.)


Any help would be great. Thanks,
Last edited by scott; Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:13pm
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upcoast Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:30pm 
If you think it's the ram run memtest.org.

If you put a new cpu in without dealing with your drivers and don't know how to do a windows reset basically a lazy reinstall.
Last edited by upcoast; Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:31pm
scott Dec 7, 2016 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by upcoast:
If you think it's the ram run memtest.org.

If you put a new cpu in without dealing with your drivers and don't know how to do a windows reset basically a lazy reinstall.
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It gave me the option when starting up after I put in the CPU to do a system update or whatever to recognize the new hardware but when I selected that it just started up the pc as usual.
[☥] - CJ - Dec 7, 2016 @ 8:59pm 
Complete system specs would be helpful
"New CPU" doesnt give much info

You can post a CPU-Z link as well which will give the most detailed info for us to check over.
scott Dec 8, 2016 @ 1:57pm 
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/wildwings01/saved/LGnv6h
Replacement CPU, had to get a new one as the old one was doing weird stuff coorelating to excessive 80c+ temps from a cooler that didn't mount properly.
Last edited by scott; Dec 8, 2016 @ 1:58pm
Bad 💀 Motha Dec 8, 2016 @ 2:07pm 
Best place to start then would be re-seat your RAM
Ensure CPU Cooler is installed/mounted properly.

Power on, enter BIOS and ensure full RAM amount is shown. Ensure RAM is configured properly, via XMP profile setting.

Then do a MemTest
scott Dec 8, 2016 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by Bad-Motha:
Best place to start then would be re-seat your RAM
Ensure CPU Cooler is installed/mounted properly.

Power on, enter BIOS and ensure full RAM amount is shown. Ensure RAM is configured properly, via XMP profile setting.

Then do a MemTest
The CPU cooler is seated correctly, also, thanks for the heads up on that Cryorig, works like a charm. I'll re-seat the ram, in Bios it shows 16gb of ram. I'm also confused with "memtest"

I know what it is but there is so much stuff on their website idk what to do
Bad 💀 Motha Dec 8, 2016 @ 2:46pm 
MemTest is a bootable app; you basically would need to go on a working system; download the ISO and Image-Burn that to CD/DVD (or custom create bootable USB Flash Drive) and then you boot from that on a system you wish to test.

I never bother with making a separate one for MemTest however, I simply make one for HirensBootCD; which has a ton of tools on it, MemTest (and ones like it) being one of the many it offers.

Something like MemTest will basically run a series of tests on your RAM; to see if it is faulty or not. As with RAM modules; generally they can appear to work, while perhaps having only a faulty chip (or small section of a chip) that is faulty; and thus errors might happen later rather then sooner; depending on when the system (OS) accesses the faulty section of RAM.

Much like when a Drive has bad sectors yet to be marked; if the system hits that bad spot (goes to read/write from it) then this can cause all sorts of odd behavior (errors, etc.) to occur. With a tool like CHKDSK, you can check a drive and if a bad sector is found, it can be marked off as un-usable to the drive's MBR; so that once marked, data will no longer try to go there.

However, when this occurs with RAM, you can't correct it or mark that bad spot off. The faulty RAM has to be replaced in such a case as that.

Course we suggest the same for a Drive too in the case of bad sectors; because generally when a Drive starts to have that sort of issue, it usually will continue once it starts, where sectors of the drive are failing, slowly over time.
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scott Dec 9, 2016 @ 6:25am 
I will do the tests today, but I was thinking it is my ram due to the fact that stuff like Google Chrome and other browsers constantly freeze, slow down or are delayed in response, stuff that isn't stored on my drive.

I also used to get tons of "Out of Ram" messages from google chrome and constantly get the error when dayz/arma crash saying "Out of memory, Requested 0kb" with some extremely long and confusing error code.
This freezing can be caused by using a swap (dont know the name on windows systems) partition instead of the RAM. This partition is part of your HDD/SSD which will be used as RAM if the RAM is fully used. Maybe your RAM is not compartible with your CPU. i would test that, but the memtest is a good idea too.
[☥] - CJ - Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:26am 
Swap/Pagefile

As far as that goes, if the SSD is low on space that can cause issues in games when the pagefile is trying to use more than whats available.

But as its a 500GB SSD along with a 5TB HDD, that shouldnt be an issue.


Do you have the XMP enabled for the RAM in BIOS?
Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:
Swap/Pagefile

As far as that goes, if the SSD is low on space that can cause issues in games when the pagefile is trying to use more than whats available.

But as its a 500GB SSD along with a 5TB HDD, that shouldnt be an issue.


Do you have the XMP enabled for the RAM in BIOS?

I think you miss understood swap. The disk size is not important if we are talking about Swap.
On the installation of the OS there will be a partition reserved for the use as a Swap. If the RAM is now full, it will write the data into the partition which was reserved earlier. Doesn´t depend on the disk size.
Last edited by [≧ℍ≦] Thymopat; Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:36am
[☥] - CJ - Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:38am 
Swapfile and Pagefile are the same thing, and yes, we are talking about the same thing.

And for the record, the pagefile is used regardless of whether or not the RAM is being maxed out by the game

Pagefile is an area on the HD thats used as RAM, also known as Virtual Memory, which is all the pagefile/swapfile is.

So what i said applies.


And as far as that goes, if the SSD or HDD is faulty, whichever the pagefile is on, that could be causing these issues as well..


OP, to rule out the pagefile, you should reset it. since you replaced the CPU thats a good idea anyway.

My PC
Right click, Properties
Advanced system settings
Performance - Settings
Advanced
Virtual Memory, click Change
Un-Tick Automatically Manage
Select the drive where the Pagefile is Located
Click No Paging File and click SET
Accept the changes
Reboot

After rebooting
Go back there and select System Managed Size/Automatically manage
SET then Ok
Reboot

If this was the cause of your problems, it should now be fixed.
Last edited by [☥] - CJ -; Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:43am
Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:
Swapfile and Pagefile are the same thing, and yes, we are talking about the same thing.

And for the record, the pagefile is used regardless of whether or not the RAM is being maxed out by the game

The Swap will be used ONLY if the RAM is out of space, otherwise the swap section have to be empty.

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:
And as far as that goes, if the SSD or HDD is faulty, whichever the pagefile is on, that could be causing these issues as well..

Right. Faulty disks can cause freezing.

Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:
OP, to rule out the pagefile, you should reset it. since you replaced the CPU thats a good idea anyway.

Nice idea.

Last edited by [≧ℍ≦] Thymopat; Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:53am
scott Dec 9, 2016 @ 2:27pm 
Yeah, to point out, this only begun happening once the new CPU was put in place,
scott Dec 9, 2016 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by ☥ - CJ -:
Swapfile and Pagefile are the same thing, and yes, we are talking about the same thing.

And for the record, the pagefile is used regardless of whether or not the RAM is being maxed out by the game

Pagefile is an area on the HD thats used as RAM, also known as Virtual Memory, which is all the pagefile/swapfile is.

So what i said applies.


And as far as that goes, if the SSD or HDD is faulty, whichever the pagefile is on, that could be causing these issues as well..


OP, to rule out the pagefile, you should reset it. since you replaced the CPU thats a good idea anyway.

My PC
Right click, Properties
Advanced system settings
Performance - Settings
Advanced
Virtual Memory, click Change
Un-Tick Automatically Manage
Select the drive where the Pagefile is Located
Click No Paging File and click SET
Accept the changes
Reboot

After rebooting
Go back there and select System Managed Size/Automatically manage
SET then Ok
Reboot

If this was the cause of your problems, it should now be fixed.
You were right, it was using my solid state for page filing, although i'll have to test and see if that's the problem.
Last edited by scott; Dec 9, 2016 @ 2:32pm
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