Amd build?

[ShadowsLast]

I am a noob when it comes to computers, Iv been a console gamer all my life. I know intel is better and more up to date but my plan of an intel build fell through as the MSI gtx 1060 I was bidding on got bought my some idiot who bought it for the same price as it is brand new. My question is if I was to go with an amd build what would be the absolute best cup, gpu and motherboard combo I could possibly get?

[DieegoPeri]

CPU i5, you can buy the 6500, but Intel is launching their new generation soon so I'd wait
GPU I'd go for the GTX 1060 6GB, it doesn't matter the brand, MSI, Gigabyte, Asus... the cheapest you can get (don't buy the ITX one), and if you can't get the 1060 go for AMD RX 480 8GB
Motherboard, I'd go for a Z170 chipset (Z270 for the new generation, I think)
And RAM you will be fine with 2x4GB, but if you are greedy enough then go for 2x8GB, the cheapest ones, don't go for those fancy 100€ memory sticks...

[upcoast]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/rFJGbj

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Lp9PQV

Most economical ways of going amd ^.

Best amd cpu is the FX8370/50 the FX9xxx is just an overclocked FX8350.

Nvidia gpus use less driver API than AMD gpus so with an amd cpu you are better off to use an NVidia GPU.

With AMD cpus you have to overclock to make them worthwhile and if you don't like overclocking go with the i3 6100.

Generally the i3 6100 build will come out lower cost than the amd build.

[76561198343548661]

PCPartPicker part list: {HIVATKOZÁS TÖRÖLVE}https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bNG6pb
Price breakdown by merchant: {HIVATKOZÁS TÖRÖLVE}https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bNG6pb/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor (£93.96 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card (£177.79 @ Kustom PCs)
Total: £331.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-04 01:34 GMT+0000

FX 8300 is 95W only ! And is as fast as i5 but on twice more cores . Hence if a game can utilize all CPU cores , it would be as i5 . Otherwise slower .

For video card GTX 1060 6GB , RX 480 8/4GB or RX 470 4GB

[Arya]

None of them. AMD are horribly outdated - five years behind Intel for technology. The motherboard you would need to build an AMD system is also obsolete, preventing you from using modern RAM. The CPU itself would probably prevent your GFX card from working properly, an issue called a Bottleneck.

I recommend you buy an Intel, maybe an i3 6100. You can upgrade it to something more powerful later if need be.

[Arya]

littlecat20160 eredeti hozzászólása:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bNG6pb
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bNG6pb/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD FX-8300 3.3GHz 8-Core Processor (£93.96 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card (£177.79 @ Kustom PCs)
Total: £331.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-04 01:34 GMT+0000

FX 8300 is 95W only ! And is as fast as i5 but on twice more cores . Hence if a game can utilize all CPU cores , it would be as i5 . Otherwise slower .

For video card GTX 1060 6GB , RX 480 8/4GB or RX 470 4GB

You're basing all of your points around a misunderstanding of stats.

AMD and Intel GHz counts aren't comparable because they use very different design archetecture. Just because an AMD has 3.3 GHz and an Intel has 3.3 GHz, doesn't mean they're as powerful as each other. Otherwise my 4.2 GHz 6700K would be only barely more powerful than some FX CPUs that cost half as much.

[76561198343548661]

FX 8300 - 7607 Pass Mark points
i5 6500 - 7083 points
{HIVATKOZÁS TÖRÖLVE}https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

[Arya]

littlecat20160 eredeti hozzászólása:

FX 8300 - 7607 Pass Mark points
i5 6500 - 7083 points
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Ah-hah. And what about Single Core performance? The thing that really matters for virtually all games currently in existance.

[oobymach]

^ actually an 8370 can oc past the stock clock of a 9590 which is roughly the same multithreading as your 6700k (confirmed on several benchmarks). Actually it has better multithreading than your 6700k at stock clocks, all your cpu is better at is single threading which really old apps rely on, most new stuff is multi threading.

At best you outpace the single threading by 30% and at worst your new cpu is less powerful at multithreading than a 5year old cpu which cost half the price.



Most intel shills think of amd as obsolete dinosaurs but the reality is both the xbox one and the ps4 use 8core amd cpu's so basically every game developed for consoles will require a similar cpu for pc gaming, so for as long as the current gen of consoles last so will your 8core amd.

If you're going amd get an 8core cpu like the 8370 and a good gaming motherboard you can beast games. From the way these shills carry on you would think games run horribly on amd cpu's but they don't. I run gtav with fairly high settings on my amd machine and even vsynced the game runs like butter. I'm also an enthusiast and my rig is no slouch.

Queue intel shills now.

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littlecat20160 eredeti hozzászólása:

FX 8300 - 7607 Pass Mark points
i5 6500 - 7083 points
{HIVATKOZÁS TÖRÖLVE}https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Ah-hah. And what about Single Core performance? The thing that really matters for virtually all games currently in existance.

I said it depends on the game

[ShadowsLast]

Ok day I was to go for an amd fx 8350 and an rx 480, would that out perform an i3-6100 and a gtx 1050 ti?

[ShadowsLast]

Does it help if I say I mostly play indie games but I want to be able to play triple a titles at medium settings

[Arya]

Yep. And probably cost a fair bit more. The RX480 is more comparable with a GTX1060 for price and power, and the FX8350 is double the price of a 6100 where I'm from. And needs a fairly expensive motherboard to rival Intel chips.

[upcoast]

If you know nothing about overclocking and skimp on the mobo for the 125w 8350 it'll all be a waste of time.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j86hMp

You're looking at ^ 305GBP just to get started for the FX8350/mobo/cooler.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/H3sMhM

Slightly better intel i5 6500 ^ 277GBP to get started with mobo/cpu/stock hsf is all you need.

I own the FX8350 at 4.4ghz and I'm telling you go for the i5 6500.

[76561198343548661]

My choice is : i3 6100 + RX 470

[Arya]

My choice is i3 6100 + GTX1050Ti. Only slightly more expensive, fractionally more powerful as well.