[s]Air vs Water cooling.[/s]

[Unconventional]

I want to know if I should watercool on these cases or if they are watercool only.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YY3PL26/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1KS93NOO2TQ1F&coliid=ILDRU6T2AIMV4

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T4BWUUY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1KS93NOO2TQ1F&coliid=I3L4YKQ4BQMS5L&psc=1

I did like the NZXT PSU cover with SSD mounting but the Fractal solves that but anyway I am concerned about cooling. this is my list so far. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h9jQf8

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What about # of Drives?
Both of those Case actually lack room for a lot of drives, because they are much more opened up for best available airflow. But if your aim is maybe 1-2 2.5-inch and/or 1-2 3.5-inch drives; then you'd be fine there.

Always hard for me personally when comes to Cases; I always have to try aim for both; good overall airflow, high # of fan and drive placements.

[Zireth]

Air cooling is generally cheaper but compatibility can be a issue.

AIOs tend to cost more, but I only suggest one brand for this... EKWB. Why? Because there coolers are actually better than traditional AIOS and with a 360mm predator, you can have a pre-filled GPU block combined with your CPU for a great overclocking and temperature experience.

Custom water cooling is the most expensive, and these things can be monsters. Able to cool basically everything that's on the motherboard (CPU GPU ram and the actual motherboard itself...) and you can make it your own by making it colored and bending it in different ways. It's really hard and it can ruin your system if it's conducive liquid. Be careful with this.

[Unconventional]

Originalmente postado por Bad-Motha:

What about # of Drives?
Both of those Case actually lack room for a lot of drives, because they are much more opened up for best available airflow. But if your aim is maybe 1-2 2.5-inch and/or 1-2 3.5-inch drives; then you'd be fine there.

Always hard for me personally when comes to Cases; I always have to try aim for both; good overall airflow, high # of fan and drive placements.

There on the back behind the mobo on the Fractal and the bottom front on the NZXT

[Bad 💀 Motha]

How's this for you?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CfBtKZ

[Unconventional]

Originalmente postado por Lady Of Trades And Spades:

Air cooling is generally cheaper but compatibility can be a issue.

AIOs tend to cost more, but I only suggest one brand for this... EKWB. Why? Because there coolers are actually better than traditional AIOS and with a 360mm predator, you can have a pre-filled GPU block combined with your CPU for a great overclocking and temperature experience.

Custom water cooling is the most expensive, and these things can be monsters. Able to cool basically everything that's on the motherboard (CPU GPU ram and the actual motherboard itself...) and you can make it your own by making it colored and bending it in different ways. It's really hard and it can ruin your system if it's conducive liquid. Be careful with this.

I was really asking if any of these cases can be used with air cooling only.

[Zireth]

Oh cases well mid towers can sometimes fit a air cooler. a water cooler depends on its mounting zone. Which is generally on the top. But the bigger your radiator, the list of compatible cases there are.

NZXT requires their own AIO cooler. Fractical is fine

I would suggest a case with a optical drive bay. Which neither have. It's easier to install windows with that.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well you don't do liquid without fans. Otherwise you have "dead spots / heat pockets"
It's either a combo of both; or just active air cooled. Is liquid a must, NO. Will it be better then air, with the right CPU cooler and quality case fans, generally not unless you spend a heck of alot. No cheap AIO is really a good idea; they are only as good as their pump; most of which are not good. If you do go that route, yes go with something from EKWB.com

As for OS install; you simply go on a working WinOS system, run the Win10 tool from Microsoft, create bootable USB flash drive. And its also better because the OS via USB drive will install like 10X faster.

If you want best airflow options; ditch the Optical Drive bay Cases from your list.
When will you use one? You could get 1x USB DVDRW and that will cover pretty much any need for any machine where you'd want to use optical disc.

[Zireth]

If you can spend up to 100$ on a case get a cooler master mastercase 5 it's basically a DIY case with plenty of room and it's a very high quality case same with some corsair cases

[Unconventional]

Originalmente postado por Lady Of Trades And Spades:

Oh cases well mid towers can sometimes fit a air cooler. a water cooler depends on its mounting zone. Which is generally on the top. But the bigger your radiator, the list of compatible cases there are.

NZXT requires there own AIO cooler. Fractical is fine

I would suggest a case with a optical drive bay. Which neither have. It's easier to install windows with that.

I know (somewhat) how to install it on a USB. And I have chosen Fractal becasue the PCI "Gap" in the NZXT is worrysome to me.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originalmente postado por Agent_Blackwing:

Originalmente postado por Lady Of Trades And Spades:

Oh cases well mid towers can sometimes fit a air cooler. a water cooler depends on its mounting zone. Which is generally on the top. But the bigger your radiator, the list of compatible cases there are.

NZXT requires there own AIO cooler. Fractical is fine

I would suggest a case with a optical drive bay. Which neither have. It's easier to install windows with that.

I know (somewhat) how to install it on a USB. And I have chosen Fractal becasue the PCI "Gap" in the NZXT is worrysome to me.

I linked the tool in the build (post #4)

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Originalmente postado por Bad-Motha:

Originalmente postado por Agent_Blackwing:

I know (somewhat) how to install it on a USB. And I have chosen Fractal becasue the PCI "Gap" in the NZXT is worrysome to me.

I linked the tool in the build (post #4)

Ok and why change the Ram and case?

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Originalmente postado por Bad-Motha:

Well you don't do liquid without fans. Otherwise you have "dead spots / heat pockets"
It's either a combo of both; or just active air cooled. Is liquid a must, NO. Will it be better then air, with the right CPU cooler and quality case fans, generally not unless you spend a heck of alot. No cheap AIO is really a good idea; they are only as good as their pump; most of which are not good. If you do go that route, yes go with something from EKWB.com

As for OS install; you simply go on a working WinOS system, run the Win10 tool from Microsoft, create bootable USB flash drive. And its also better because the OS via USB drive will install like 10X faster.

If you want best airflow options; ditch the Optical Drive bay Cases from your list.
When will you use one? You could get 1x USB DVDRW and that will cover pretty much any need for any machine where you'd want to use optical disc.

I am asking, Will the Fractal work without the AIO, Just fan cooling

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just my suggestions; but either of those Cases you originally suggested is fine.
With RAM; figure 2133 RAM if not Z170 chipset; if Z170 then might as well get 3200

Overall I tried to pick really good bang for buck.

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Originalmente postado por Bad-Motha:

Just my suggestions; but either of those Cases you originally suggested is fine.
With RAM; figure 2133 RAM if not Z170 chipset; if Z170 then might as well get 3200

Overall I tried to pick really good bang for buck.

ok but what is the diffrence between the PSU I chose and the one you CHose

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originalmente postado por Agent_Blackwing:

ok but what is the diffrence between the PSU I chose and the one you CHose

Basically the same quality, half the price.

Otherwise maybe look at Corsair RMx series, or a Gold/Platinum certified one from Seasonic.