Muxxer 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 41분
Pentium G4400 or Celeron G3930?
Hello.

Going to get a budget gaming PC and I want to know which of these CPUs is better, the Pentium G4400 (3.3 GHz, Dual Core, 3 MB Cache, 2015) or the Celeron G3930 (2.9 GHz, Dual Core, 2 MB Cache, 2017)

The G4400 performs a lot better than the G3930 and the price difference is not that much, I can't get a G4560 for several reasons so I'm between these two CPUs. I would just go and get the G4400 but I heard from some people that this CPU has compatibility problems with some stuff, I don't know tbh. I'll have a GTX 1050, and the G3930 bottlenecks the card by a %15, while the G4400 does it by a %10.

Anyone has any of these CPUs and can give a good opinion on them? You'll help me a lot!

https://ark.intel.com/es/products/88179/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4400-3M-Cache-3_30-GHz
https://ark.intel.com/products/97452/Intel-Celeron-Processor-G3930-2M-Cache-2_90-GHz
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⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 44분 
Current gen or wait for coffee lake.


Necroheadbanger님이 먼저 게시:

Going to get a budget gaming PC
A friendly reminder, don't go on budget with a psu...
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 45분 
Necroheadbanger님이 먼저 게시:
I'll have a GTX 1050, and the G3930 bottlenecks the card by a %15, while the G4400 does it by a %10.
Uhm no, not rly..
Gen X 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 45분 
BOth r castrated
vadim 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 45분 
Don't buy either of these CPU. They ain't intented to be used in gaming PCs.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 50분 
Tell us what do you have ATM, or planning to get? Maybe we can work things out.

1. What is your budget?
2. What store do you plan on getting this from?
Sabertoothproton 2017년 9월 19일 오후 5시 51분 
Mabye a G4560?
Also 1050TI is miles ahead of 1050 and its totally worth the price diffrence
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Muxxer 2017년 9월 19일 오후 6시 52분 
Dr.Shadowds 🐉님이 먼저 게시:
Tell us what do you have ATM, or planning to get? Maybe we can work things out.

1. What is your budget?
2. What store do you plan on getting this from?

My budget is very short to be honest, around $400. And building a decent PC from 0 is not a good idea since here (in Argentina) prices are really inflated.

And I'm going to get this from a well-known hardware store from Buenos Aires, heard a lot of good things from those guys so I'm buying from them.

And at the moment I'm in a terribly broken netbook with an AMD E-350 with a Radeon HD 6310 (integrated).


sabertoothproton님이 먼저 게시:
Mabye a G4560?
Also 1050TI is miles ahead of 1050 and its totally worth the price diffrence

Yeah, I know, but I can't get it right now with my budget.

vadim님이 먼저 게시:
Don't buy either of these CPU. They ain't intented to be used in gaming PCs.

Yeah, I know they are made for gaming, but these are the best that I could get, I'm going to update the PC next year and I will put an i5 or what I can get.
CursedPanther 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 21분 
Necroheadbanger님이 먼저 게시:
My budget is very short to be honest, around $400. And building a decent PC from 0 is not a good idea since here (in Argentina) prices are really inflated.
At this budget range a console should have a higher cost-to-performance ratio if it's purely for gaming purposes to be honest. But the price of a PS4 may also have inflated perhaps?
Sabertoothproton 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 22분 
CursedPanther님이 먼저 게시:
Necroheadbanger님이 먼저 게시:
My budget is very short to be honest, around $400. And building a decent PC from 0 is not a good idea since here (in Argentina) prices are really inflated.
At this budget range a console should have a higher cost-to-performance ratio if it's purely for gaming purposes to be honest. But the price of a PS4 may also have inflated perhaps?
Remember that you have to pay a subscription to use most of the features. Also OP has a lot of games on steam he would have to rebuy
Mossy Snake 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 22분 
I'd just wait until you can afford a G4560.

Many newer games (even some older ones) won't even boot on a CPU with less than 2c/4t.
Sabertoothproton 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 23분 
MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:
I'd just wait until you can afford a G4560.

Many newer games (even some older ones) won't even boot on a CPU with less than 2c/4t.
Mabye he could get a G4600 and use the IGPU until he has enough pennies to get a 1050TI. But G4560 is kinda a minimum for PC gaming today.
Mossy Snake 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 24분 
sabertoothproton님이 먼저 게시:
MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:
I'd just wait until you can afford a G4560.

Many newer games (even some older ones) won't even boot on a CPU with less than 2c/4t.
Mabye he could get a G4600 and use the IGPU until he has enough pennies to get a 1050TI. But G4560 is kinda a minimum for PC gaming today.
That sounds like a good idea actually. The Intel 630 is pretty good for an iGPU (Roughly an HD 5450 if I remember right), so he should be fine for a bit until he can get a 1050ti or better.
CursedPanther 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 45분 
sabertoothproton님이 먼저 게시:
CursedPanther님이 먼저 게시:
At this budget range a console should have a higher cost-to-performance ratio if it's purely for gaming purposes to be honest. But the price of a PS4 may also have inflated perhaps?
Remember that you have to pay a subscription to use most of the features. Also OP has a lot of games on steam he would have to rebuy
Depends on whether online multiplayer is a crucial part of TC's experience. That's also assuming his current PC can already run most of the games in his library.
Muxxer 2017년 9월 19일 오후 7시 59분 
CursedPanther님이 먼저 게시:
Necroheadbanger님이 먼저 게시:
My budget is very short to be honest, around $400. And building a decent PC from 0 is not a good idea since here (in Argentina) prices are really inflated.
At this budget range a console should have a higher cost-to-performance ratio if it's purely for gaming purposes to be honest. But the price of a PS4 may also have inflated perhaps?

I don't need nor want a console, I'm using a PC which is working like ♥♥♥♥ and I use it for basically everything, and also what the other dude said, I would need to rebuy all those games if I wanted to play them in a console, and I couldn't even play them in high settings, and I'm not looking forwards AAA gaming.

MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:
I'd just wait until you can afford a G4560.

Many newer games (even some older ones) won't even boot on a CPU with less than 2c/4t.

I don't think so. Saw a lot of people playing current games with even single core CPUs. And I'm not really interested in playing new AAA games.

sabertoothproton님이 먼저 게시:
MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:
I'd just wait until you can afford a G4560.

Many newer games (even some older ones) won't even boot on a CPU with less than 2c/4t.
Mabye he could get a G4600 and use the IGPU until he has enough pennies to get a 1050TI. But G4560 is kinda a minimum for PC gaming today.

Yeah, I want to get a G4560, but as I said above, by many reasons I can't get a G4560 at this moment (budget, price (here's like %35 more expensive than in the US), availability)

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Take in mind that I might play current AAA games every once in a while, but I will mostly play lder games and E-Sports/Online games (TF2, DoTA 2, CS:GO, ect). I've heard everyone saying that I should get a Ti and a G4560 because they are much better, but as of now they aren't an option that can fit for my budget, and computer/hardware prices are going up constantly down here, I don't wanna risk getting some more money because I might end up without being able to buy anything if I do. I'm looking forward at getting a low/mid-end gaming PC to play stuff out of the box and upgrade it once I get more money.

Btw, this is the build I have in my mind:

Gigabyte or Zotac GTX 1050 2GB DDR5
Pentium G4400 (I think I will stay with this one for now)
MSI H110M Pro-VH (Comes in a combo)
4GB RAM DDR4 (It comes with the motherboard in a combo, and yeah, 4GB won't do much but I will get more son, I'm not going to do much RAM expensive stuff)
Western Digital 1TB HDD

I will use this as a base PC and as I said, I will start building over it. Before I upgrade anything I'm going to buy an external audio card to record music and stuff, and those are like $150, after that I will add another 4GB of RAM and I will buy a quad core or whatever decent CPU I find.

xSOSxHawkens 2017년 9월 20일 오전 12시 18분 
My only suggestion would be to look at some AMD sollutions..

If your bugget is equivilent to $400, then even with a 30% markup you are still within range of their Ryzen 1300x...

Its $130 USD, so about twice the cpu price you are looking at, but it offers you Core i5 performance.

It would likely come down to availability, not just of CPU but motherboard also, but its worth asking about.

Either way, Intel or AMD, you will have a viable upgrade path.

If you opt for a better CPU and are looking for places to save a bit here and there, you can shave a bit by downgrading to a 160 or 250gb HDD. I know it sounds small, and it is, but witht he games you listed you could survive on a 160 with ocasional swaping and re-downloading, or on a 250 without much of that at all.
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