Steam In-Home Streaming - Intel HD Graphics 620 strong enough? (for client!)

[halbsodoppelt]

Hi guys,

i am planning to build/buy a mini-PC for Steam in-home streaming.
The Steam Link doesnt fit my requirements (drivers for wireless Controllers and additional software) so the machine needs to run Windows 10 as OS.

I am thinking about getting a Zotac Mini-PC.
The main question is:
is the Intel HD Graphics 620 strong enough for steam in-home streaming?

I am using in-home streaming mainly for 2-4 player local coop sessions
where we play games like Speedrunners/Crawl and so on - so the slightest lags are VERY annoying.

Anyone got experience with the Intel HD Graphics 620?
Is it working well?

Thanks guys,
keep up the good work!

[[☥] - CJ -]

Its unlikely it would do well, but it would depend on the games i suppose..

If you were able to fit an NVIDIA 1030 in there at the least, that would be the absolute minimum for any type of stream gaming.

It may be streaming, but the PC still has to be decent enough to do all the work.

[Arya]

That may well be the worst graphical device currently on the market. It's laughably underpowered and physically incapable of running a majority of games, including games that are many years old.

My eldest working PC dates back to 2004, with a GPU fitted a year later. And it's still got more graphical power than an Intel 620.

Avoid onboard graphics at all costs. They're acceptable only for office machines. The minimum you can get away with would be an Nvidia GTX1050 or AMD RX470.

Publicado originalmente por ☥ - CJ -:

Its unlikely it would do well, but it would depend on the games i suppose..

If you were able to fit an NVIDIA 1030 in there at the least, that would be the absolute minimum for any type of stream gaming.

It may be streaming, but the PC still has to be decent enough to do all the work.

I seriously doubt it would work at all. If you wanted to find out, a 13 year old Nvidia 8800GT has similar raw performance and bench results, making it a good yardstick for test websites. Although for me, the fact a 13 year old Nvidia 8800GT has similar raw performance and bench results is enough to convince me to run a mile from IGPUs in general.

[retro_Ed]

Are you planning to make wired or wireless streaming setup? Wired is highly recommended.

Intel HD 620 should work just fine on a clients end.
(tested with ZBOX CI323 nano)
What are host pc:s specs and is your router good enough.

(With Steam Link it is possible to remote use desktop mode and all software.)

[pasa]

Old games (i.e those that were made for DX 9c) run fine on intel HD, I played like that for ~2 years on HD 4000 and 620 is more advanced. Also you can buy and plug in a gpu card at any time, so you lose nothing from trying out how it goes for you and adjust accordingly.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

620 would be fine for older/less demanding games.
For in-home streaming of any kind, no.

[halbsodoppelt]

Just to be clear:
The device i talked about in my opening post should be the client.
The Host PC has following specs:

Mainboard: ASUS P9X79
CPU: Intel Core i7
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680
I am streaming over Wifi.

I am already! streaming.
But i am doing it with an old laptop as client.
I am just planning to replace the laptop cause its very noisy and looks ♥♥♥♥♥♥ under my TV.
The streaming with the laptop is working fine so far.

[retro_Ed]

My Zotac low end mini-pc has an Intel N3160 quad-core 1.6GHz--->2.24GHz cpu which can stream 1080p/60fps if I lower resolution or cap bandwidth to ~20Mbps.

I think anything up from i3 can handle max setting streaming with no hiccups.
Even Pentium series.

[prometh]

I have an Intel Iris 5100 and it can play old games fine, but the streaming is total ♥♥♥♥ with the ugliest of video compression blocks. Switching from wireless to an ethernet cable offered no improvement.

[_I_]

as a client the intel hd is more than enough

for a host its not nearly strong enough to play and stream

[76561198810296325]

i have a i7 8700 iwth a 630 inside i dont play powerfull games only play oldschool indie games... i can run hollow knight, stardew valley, owlboy or eastward without problems.. even dying light two worked on lowest settings... lol

BUT i recently got a ipad m2 and i wanted to play hollow knight over stream link and idk but even if i dont play games the lag inside the menu is soo bad i actually cant really do nothing.. i have wifi g so it cant be the wifi connections... i also have other remote desktop apps for drawing wireless (easy canvas) and it works without any lag...

stream on pc allways gives me the message the intel hd is not powerfull enough ...
i could understand for games but why even the menu is so slow??

would this get better if i would get a 1080 or 2080ti mini???

[_I_]

check the log
steam\logs\streaming_log.txt

if its ping or where the delays are coming from

if its network, it may be using steams internet relay instead of direct connection
make sure windows network is set to private
any vpn is disabled
check router, make sure wifi isolation is disabled
steam -> settings -> remote play -> allow direct = all/auto/my not disabled

[[☥] - CJ -]

5Ghz WIFI is important for Streaming, cant tell by what you said if thats what you have or not.

Could simply be the go between doesnt like the iPad.

Any GPU thats better than the iGPU should give better results though, doesnt necessarily have to be high end, but obviously the better hardware the Host PC has the better the results will be on the client device.

Super old thread btw..

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Publicado originalmente por Davethamonsta:

i have a i7 8700 iwth a 630 inside i dont play powerfull games only play oldschool indie games... i can run hollow knight, stardew valley, owlboy or eastward without problems.. even dying light two worked on lowest settings... lol

BUT i recently got a ipad m2 and i wanted to play hollow knight over stream link and idk but even if i dont play games the lag inside the menu is soo bad i actually cant really do nothing.. i have wifi g so it cant be the wifi connections... i also have other remote desktop apps for drawing wireless (easy canvas) and it works without any lag...

stream on pc allways gives me the message the intel hd is not powerfull enough ...
i could understand for games but why even the menu is so slow??

would this get better if i would get a 1080 or 2080ti mini???

Wireless-G is the max the Router supports? Then it's time to ditch that and get one that supports at least Wireless-N + AC with at least Dual or Tri Band.The AC = 5Ghz, which the iPad should support and once connected to that, should fare quite a bit better with streaming to.

Yes, the GPU is not good enough, its that simple.
Look at perhaps an RX 580 or GTX 1650

[_I_]

yea, g is 54mb/s max, just enough with a single stream if nothing else is taking wifi bandwidth (or freq range) from the router

but the streaming log shows network latency along with capture/encode/decode stats