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And forgive my bluntness, but they're a bit naff. IGPUs are designed to work as an emergency backup, they're only used as "Primary" graphics on Work Laptops and systems that were never intended for gaming. If you're serious about playing games, you're gonna need a bigger chip.
If you get too technical you will probably just lose me. :D
I'm really just trying to figure out what games I can and can't do with this setup. It seems the graphics card is the main thing holding me back on a lot of them. One game, for example, I'm looking at is Rising Storm 2: Vietnam. According to the Can You RUN It website listed above the rest of my system will work but it says I can't run it because it needs 1024 MB of video RAM.
This youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7lv7uXZfok) shows the game being played on a system similar to mine.
His:
CPU: Intel core i3 6100U 2.3GHz (mobile skylake)
GPU: Intel HD 520
RAM: 8GB DDR3L 1600MHz Dual Channel (2x4gb)
SSD: 128GB Kingston
WINDOWS: 10
I'm not really smart enough though to know if his system is better or worse than mine or whether or not the need for 1024 MB would be too much for my system. I do have a 5 fan cooling pad I can run when playing the game or others with similar demands if that helps or even matters.
VRAM is the least of anything you worry about. For iGPU just allocate RAM as much as you can to it. It won't make the card any better.
HD620 is slightly better, just. 5 or 10 or 50 cooling pad is useless as your chip is a low power chip without dGPU.
The CPU and (i)GPU are both processors. The CPU is a massive, centralised processor that actually does the computing. It has it's own tiny bank of high-speed RAM, called the CPU Cache. Alongside that you have a GPU of some kind. Your system has a IGPU - a tiny little chip mounted on the CPU assembly. Like a parasite. And like the CPU it also has a Cache of RAM, in this case 128MB.
You also have an additional 8GB of installed system memory, the RAM displayed on your specs sheet.
GPU performance comes down to a couple of factors; the actual number of Stream Processors on the chip, the speed the chip is clocked at, and the amount of VRAM installed. And this is where IGPUs become problematic.
Their actual processing power is literally an order of magnitude less than a full-size GPU. And where they typically have 128-500 megabytes of VRAM, a typical full-size GPU has 4-12 gigabytes. And since modern games are often designed on the assumption you have a full-sized GPU, it's extremely difficult to run them off an IGPU.
The unfortunate part is, upgrading isn't an option. Increase the amount of available IGPU cache won't help, and installing a full-sized GPU isn't possible on a Laptop, due to size, heat and power issues.
The only way to get more power is to buy a more powerful system, something I'd be glad to help with. Wish I could offer a better solution, but that's it.
Yes, I understand fully this laptop was not built for gaming but it doesn't stop me from wanting to try anyways since it's all I have to work with at the moment. :D
There's no magic button or adjustment that'll squeeze more power out of them. And you can't overclock them, either. Even if they were Unlocked, they're probably at the limit for heat anyway.
I kind of thought the CIRI site was dumb too as it basically says I can't play anything including CIV 5 and it's working just fine.
So theoretically the 8.0 GB of RAM is what matters since that is what the integrated card is using anyways?
So how much would one have to invest in a decent system? Doesn't necessarily need to be a laptop. I do have an older desktop somewhere but I don't know the specs on it or if it would be something worth building or if I would be better off just going with something new. All I do know about it offhand is that it has the OS that game out right after XP that was a disaster. Vista I think? I don't really want to spent a ton of money as I'm more of a casual player but I would like to play the good games.
And the Xbox One X killer
https://www.gamersnexus.net/pc-builds/3152-amd-r5-1600-pc-build-with-gtx-1060-cyber-monday
Can play Forza 7 at higher settings 4K and higher FPS than Xbox One X
A desktop is definitely the way to go, and they're not that expensive. Budget a minimum of $600. Preferably around $1000ish, a PC built to that budget will last you many years and be easily upgradable in future.
Although you can buy gaming PCs from most major stores, they're not good value for money and often come with reliability issues. Mainly relating to their power supply models. There's also a massive aftermarket tuning scene for PCs, with upgrade kits available for every area of a system along with spare parts.
The smartest way to buy a gaming PC is to buy a full suite of these aftermarket parts, and then assemble them into a working PC. There's nothing that a pre-built PC comes with, that you can't buy individually. And these kits are built to a much higher standard, and have much better performance than what you'll buy in a box at Best Buy.
And because it was bought modular, it stays modular. When part fails, wears out or becomes obsolete it can be easily replaced individually while the overall system keeps living. This can eb done an infinite number of times, theroetically you can keep a system going as long as the core platform holds up. And that's usually 5-10 years.
I have one more simple question maybe one of you can answer so I don't need to start a new thread somewhere... I'm new to this whole downloading games instead ofbuying a hard copy off the shelf... If I build a new computer can I put games I purchase here on it or will I have to repurchase them? I really don't know how the licensing and stuff works.
Digital Downloads can be downloaded however many times you want, and on however many systems you want. The only catch is that you have to download and install Steam first, but it's totally free and only takes a few seconds.
It's likewise for Blizzard Interactive's Digital Download service. Once you own a game, it's yours to install as you like. I don't know about EA's system, I don't play any EA games.
As for building a system, we're in a great period at the moment. Even Intel and AMD's weakest CPUs are plenty servicable for gaming, and even basics GPUs like the RX470 and GTX1050Ti can do a great job. You don't have to spend a fortune to get a great system.
That's good to know. I can go ahead and buy a couple of games I'm looking at then and if they won't work, I'll still be able to have them later when I have something they'll for sure work on.
Would it be okay if I get back with you at a later date to ask advice when I start looking at putting a gaming PC together?
Yeah, that's fine.
And another thing - Steam has a really great refund policy. If you buy a game, and play it for less than two hours, you're guaranteed a complete refund for absolutely any reason. You have two weeks from the moment you buy the game, and can't play more than 120 minutes, but that gives you plenty of time to evaluate it and make a judgement. And it doesn't work out, nothing at all was lost.