alanrco 2017 年 11 月 28 日 上午 3:56
ACER Predator XB321HK
Was really keen to buy one of these but it's no longer listed on Acer's UK website. Concerned for the reason why they have discontinued this model?
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Bad 💀 Motha 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 12:30 
Doesn't really matter what's on the ACER website.
Look on places of sale... like Newegg, Amazon, Ebay, Ebuyer...

If you want it, get it...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B017U8Z61W
John Doe 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:11 
Why aren't you looking at 38 inch panels instead?
Revelene 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:54 
No, they've not discontinued it.

It merely came out about a year ago, and it simply just isn't the current flagship or top advertised model for your region. It not being on the UK website doesn't really mean a thing.
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Bad 💀 Motha 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 1:55 
Also I would just look at good 1440p/144+ Hz choices instead.
If you really want 4K and have specs to handle that well, then I'd wait for the 120Hz 4K Monitors in 2018
EliteGamer 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:44 
The XB321HK didn't do very well because of low PPI and being a waste of money......

4K at 32 inch wouldn't look much better than 27 inch 1440p because the PPI is only 33% better.

The XB271HK (27 inch version) is much better as it has a much higher PPI and looks much sharper with a 70% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor like the XB271HU.

The XB271HK 4K monitor can also do portrait mode. It's got the awesome high PPI image quality and the benefits of looking like a large TV vertically. Portrait mode is really nice when browsing the web. It reminds me when I used to use a 40 inch 4K TV on my PC. Best of both worlds. The XB321HK is limited and you pay more for less lol.

That's the reason why the upcoming ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ is also at 27 inches and not 32 inches, higher PPI and portrait mode.

Also, 27 inches won't give you vision problems. Having a 32 inch monitor on a desk is extremely bad for healthy young eyes. You don't want to end up wearing glasses do you....
Bad 💀 Motha 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:46 
27 inch is also good choice for 2-4 feet away.
Something like 32 inch, you better have it approx 6+ feet away, otherwise it's way too "in your face"
John Doe 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 EliteGamer
The XB321HK didn't do very well because of low PPI and being a waste of money......

4K at 32 inch wouldn't look much better than 27 inch 1440p because the PPI is only 33% better.

The XB271HK (27 inch version) is much better as it has a much higher PPI and looks much sharper with a 70% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor like the XB271HU.

The XB271HK 4K monitor can also do portrait mode. It's got the awesome high PPI image quality and the benefits of looking like a large TV vertically. Portrait mode is really nice when browsing the web. It reminds me when I used to use a 40 inch 4K TV on my PC. Best of both worlds. The XB321HK is limited and you pay more for less lol.

That's the reason why the upcoming ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ is also at 27 inches and not 32 inches, higher PPI and portrait mode.

Also, 27 inches won't give you vision problems. Having a 32 inch monitor on a desk is extremely bad for healthy young eyes. You don't want to end up wearing glasses do you....

This is all your opinion. Also, that thing about 32 inch giving you eye problems is complete BS.

You do know that on 4k, you have to use about %125 scaling on 32 inch, EVEN more on 27 inch to read stuff, right?

There was nothing wrong with the Predator 32, it just didn't sell well because it costed much, being 10-bit, 32 inch 4k etc... I'd suggest the 38 inch model instead.
alanrco 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 2:58 
Appreciate all your input, ty.

One curious thing though, earlier this year I suffered double vision. Its gone now, less playing (sad). Was quite worrying. Saw an eye consultant and told him about my PC gameplaying. He told me that a bigger monitor is better because I was concentrating my vision veiwing a small area and that can be tough on the eye muscles being like, stationary in a small field of vision. Reason why I've been looking at larger screens.
EliteGamer 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:02 
引用自 John Doe
引用自 EliteGamer
The XB321HK didn't do very well because of low PPI and being a waste of money......

4K at 32 inch wouldn't look much better than 27 inch 1440p because the PPI is only 33% better.

The XB271HK (27 inch version) is much better as it has a much higher PPI and looks much sharper with a 70% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor like the XB271HU.

The XB271HK 4K monitor can also do portrait mode. It's got the awesome high PPI image quality and the benefits of looking like a large TV vertically. Portrait mode is really nice when browsing the web. It reminds me when I used to use a 40 inch 4K TV on my PC. Best of both worlds. The XB321HK is limited and you pay more for less lol.

That's the reason why the upcoming ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQ is also at 27 inches and not 32 inches, higher PPI and portrait mode.

Also, 27 inches won't give you vision problems. Having a 32 inch monitor on a desk is extremely bad for healthy young eyes. You don't want to end up wearing glasses do you....

This is all your opinion. Also, that thing about 32 inch giving you eye problems is complete BS.

You do know that on 4k, you have to use about %125 scaling on 32 inch, EVEN more on 27 inch to read stuff, right?

There was nothing wrong with the Predator 32, it just didn't sell well because it costed much, being 10-bit, 32 inch 4k etc... I'd suggest the 38 inch model instead.

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. A 27 inch 4K monitor has a higher PPI than a 32 inch 4K monitor, so less AA in games with the 27 inch compared to the 32 inch monitor.

I can clearly see text and stuff at 100% scaling on my XB271HK. It's not ideal, but it's usable. I'm currently using 150%, but, I've used all sorts, 200% , and even 300% lol. It doesn't matter what the scale is on my monitor, it looks good whatever.
Bad 💀 Motha 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:03 
Yes I would not bother looking at screens below 27 inch or 144 Hz
John Doe 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:07 
引用自 EliteGamer
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. A 27 inch 4K monitor has a higher PPI than a 32 inch 4K monitor, so less AA in games with the 27 inch compared to the 32 inch monitor.

I can clearly see text and stuff at 100% scaling on my XB271HK. It's not ideal, but it's usable. I'm currently using 150%, but, I've used all sorts, 200% , and even 300% lol. It doesn't matter what the scale is on my monitor, it looks good whatever.

Yes, yes it is an opinion. 32 inch UHD does not have "extremely low PPI" and your 27 inch having more PPI doesn't mean all that much when you're using %150 scaling in order to read things properly.

I'd take my 32 inch over ANY 27 incher 4k any day, it's just more suited for 4k. You actually need about 35 inches or so for 4k to properly do at %100 scaling, shame that nobody does that.

As for AA levels, I'm also fine with 2x AA at this res with my 1080 Ti.
EliteGamer 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 John Doe
引用自 EliteGamer
It's not an opinion, it's a fact. A 27 inch 4K monitor has a higher PPI than a 32 inch 4K monitor, so less AA in games with the 27 inch compared to the 32 inch monitor.

I can clearly see text and stuff at 100% scaling on my XB271HK. It's not ideal, but it's usable. I'm currently using 150%, but, I've used all sorts, 200% , and even 300% lol. It doesn't matter what the scale is on my monitor, it looks good whatever.

Yes, yes it is an opinion. 32 inch UHD does not have "extremely low PPI" and your 27 inch having more PPI doesn't mean all that much when you're using %150 scaling in order to read things properly.

I'd take my 32 inch over ANY 27 incher 4k any day, it's just more suited for 4k. You actually need about 35 inches or so for 4k to properly do at %100 scaling, shame that nobody does that.

As for AA levels, I'm also fine with 2x AA at this res with my 1080 Ti.


It's a fact, stop arguing like you always do and learn to accept the truth. A 32 inch 4K monitor only has a 33% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor, so really, if you're one of those that paid £1200, you wasted your money.

My 27 inch 4K monitor looks very sharp and detailed and much better than any of my previous "much bigger screen" 4K TV's that I've used in the past. A bigger screen doesn't mean a better picture. If the resolution is the same, then the smaller screen always looks better. That's a 100% guaranteed fact. You can either accept it or stay in denial, I don't care.

With the 27 inch 4K monitor, yes, you will get better frames because you can game with AA off and still keep that nice image. With 32 inch 4K, you need AA on otherwise it won't look much better than a lower resolution.
John Doe 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:22 
引用自 EliteGamer
It's a fact, stop arguing like you always do and learn to accept the truth. A 32 inch 4K monitor only has a 33% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor, so really, if you're one of those that paid £1200, you wasted your money.

My 27 inch 4K monitor looks very sharp and detailed and much better than any of my previous "much bigger screen" 4K TV's that I've used in the past. A bigger screen doesn't mean a better picture. If the resolution is the same, then the smaller screen always looks better. That's a 100% guaranteed fact. You can either accept it or stay in denial, I don't care.

With the 27 inch 4K monitor, yes, you will get better frames because you can game with AA off and still keep that nice image. With 32 inch 4K, you need AA on otherwise it won't look much better than a lower resolution.

No, it's not a fact. It's something you're coming up out of thin air. I didn't waste my money.

It has "only %33 more PPI" so it's not better? Again, that's just YOUR opinion and nothing more. You're simply unable to understand that there are those who want bigger monitors. I hate 27 inches and can't do with anything less than 30 inch.

Then you come up with comparing a 27 inch 4k monitor to TELEVISIONS. Yeah, really smart. High input lag, giant sizes and HDMI limitations. As for my frames, they're fine. Your nonsense is over the top.
EliteGamer 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:43 
引用自 John Doe
引用自 EliteGamer
It's a fact, stop arguing like you always do and learn to accept the truth. A 32 inch 4K monitor only has a 33% better PPI than a 27 inch 1440p monitor, so really, if you're one of those that paid £1200, you wasted your money.

My 27 inch 4K monitor looks very sharp and detailed and much better than any of my previous "much bigger screen" 4K TV's that I've used in the past. A bigger screen doesn't mean a better picture. If the resolution is the same, then the smaller screen always looks better. That's a 100% guaranteed fact. You can either accept it or stay in denial, I don't care.

With the 27 inch 4K monitor, yes, you will get better frames because you can game with AA off and still keep that nice image. With 32 inch 4K, you need AA on otherwise it won't look much better than a lower resolution.

No, it's not a fact. It's something you're coming up out of thin air. I didn't waste my money.

It has "only %33 more PPI" so it's not better? Again, that's just YOUR opinion and nothing more. You're simply unable to understand that there are those who want bigger monitors. I hate 27 inches and can't do with anything less than 30 inch.

Then you come up with comparing a 27 inch 4k monitor to TELEVISIONS. Yeah, really smart. High input lag, giant sizes and HDMI limitations. As for my frames, they're fine. Your nonsense is over the top.


You're just an NPD troll who always thinks hes right when you never are. I've seen you argue on here before if anybody dares to attack stuff you own. You have NPD. Go get some CBT and change your way of thinking.

You understand nothing end off. Nothing computes with you.

I understand people want bigger screen monitors for bigger rooms etc.... but I don't understand fools like you who ignore facts because nothing is better than what you have is it mr NPD.

My monitor has an higher PPI than your monitor, so looks better. That's a fact and you can't change facts because you have NPD and you think everything you have is better. What I've said didn't come out of thin air, it's a fact. Your monitor is inferior to mine in picture quality, gaming and features. Who's the smart person and who's the dumb person?? I didn't waste £1200 on inferior crap.

When did I mention input lag of a TV?? I'm talking about picture quality here. Learn to read and understand english.

Your NPD is over the top. Stop replying to me. Go to bed already. Your monitor has worse specs end off.
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John Doe 2017 年 11 月 28 日 下午 3:50 
引用自 EliteGamer
You're just an NPD troll who always thinks hes right when you never are. I've seen you argue on here before if anybody dares to attack stuff you own. You have NPD. Go get some CBT and change your way of thinking.

You understand nothing end off. Nothing computes with you.

I understand people want bigger screen monitors for bigger rooms etc.... but I don't understand fools like you who ignore facts because nothing is better than what you have is it mr NPD.

My monitor has an higher PPI than your monitor, so looks better. That's a fact and you can't changed facts because you have NPD and you think everything you have is better. What I've said didn't come out of thin air, it's a fact. Your monitor is inferior to mine in picture quality, gaming and features. Who's the smart person and who's the dumb person?? I didn't waste £1200 on inferior crap.

When did I mention input lag of a TV?? I'm talking about picture quality here. Learn to read and understand english.

Your NPD is over the top. Stop replying to me. Go to bed already. Your monitor has worse specs end off.

Oh yeah, now you're going into a much higher degree of personal attacks. I think you're the one that has psychological issues given how many times you talked about it in your post. I don't know what made you think that way, but I'm sure you can't say any of that to my face IRL. The Internet is indeed a great place when you can say almost anything to a random individual behind a keyboard, isn't it?

Here are some facts, my monitor is not inferior to yours. It's just as good, if not better given my usage (I barely game). You're competely disregarding every fact aside of PPI. I have a BDM3275 and it's a perfect panel, 10-bit, great color accuracy and so on.

Input lag matters when you have it at massive levels, making the TV an utter crap of a monitor. You have issues, and you're the one that needs to go away.
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