is 100mhz oc make a differece?

[Bone]

im currently Succeded my i7 870 oxed at 4.1ghz and this is stable as i get here

but is 4.2ghz will make difference gaming?

[Omega]

Since your CPU is 10 years old, sure it will make a difference but not a huge one.

[tacoshy]

Originally posted by Oh Lets Break It Down:

im currently Succeded my i7 870 oxed at 4.1ghz and this is stable as i get here

but is 4.2ghz will make difference gaming?

the jump from 4.1 to 4.2 GHz is marginal less then 2-3% in real performance. However a raise from 2.9GHz to 4.1Ghz is already pretty high and your voltage must be already cause alot of heat problems so I'm not sure if it is worth it to go further.

[John Doe]

Actually that OC is kinda low for that CPU. Those dualies hit above that back in 2009.

You don't need high voltage for 4.1 with that chip. The 2.9 is the stock, it has a Turbo speed of higher, I'm unsure of how high the Turbo is but it's likely significantly above 3 Ghz.

Hell, I had an E8600, an old Core 2 Duo that did 4.2 around stock volts so...

But yeah, the point of that CPU being ancient stands, and a higher OC would barely help. OP, you're best off getting a new chip.

[tacoshy]

you know the difference of Turbo and OC right? Just because you can Turbo above 3GHz doesnt mean you also can OC to over 3GHz. a 4.2GHz OC compared to 2.93GHz stock is pretty much ~40% raise.

PS: i7-870 is a quad

[Omega]

Originally posted by John Doe:

Hell, I had an E8600, an old Core 2 Duo that did 4.2 around stock volts so...

The max GHz differs a lot per CPU. These i7 CPUs go up to 4,4Ghz max if you won the silicon lottery, and that is considered a extreme overclock. 1,4v is the highest I would go with this chip.

[John Doe]

Originally posted by tacoshy:

you know the difference of Turbo and OC right? Just because you can Turbo above 3GHz doesnt mean you also can OC to over 3GHz. a 4.2GHz OC compared to 2.93GHz stock is pretty much ~40% raise.

Yes, I do. That chip is easily capable of 4.2. It doesn't matter that it's an around %40 raise, because I do know that those chips did it.

Even old Core 2 Quads were capable of doing 4.2, so the first-gen i5 would do it even easier.

[tacoshy]

Originally posted by John Doe:

Originally posted by tacoshy:

you know the difference of Turbo and OC right? Just because you can Turbo above 3GHz doesnt mean you also can OC to over 3GHz. a 4.2GHz OC compared to 2.93GHz stock is pretty much ~40% raise.

Yes, I do. That chip is easily capable of 4.2. It doesn't matter that it's an around %40 raise, because I do know that those chips did it.

Even old Core 2 Quads were capable of doing 4.2, so the first-gen i5 would do it even easier.

there FX-8350 overclocked at single core at 8 GHz doesnt mean everybody should or could do the same or even reach 7GHz.... 4.2 GHz is high for an i7-870... some are cable of OC'ing higher and alot of them are incable of even reaching it in the first place.

[John Doe]

Originally posted by tacoshy:

4.2 GHz is high for an i7-870... some are cable of OC'ing higher and alot of them are incable of even reaching it in the first place.

No, it isn't if he isn't pushing a lot of volts into it.

Again, no a lot of them pulled it off in 2009-2010.

[tacoshy]

Originally posted by John Doe:

Originally posted by tacoshy:

4.2 GHz is high for an i7-870... some are cable of OC'ing higher and alot of them are incable of even reaching it in the first place.

No, it isn't if he isn't pushing a lot of volts into it.

Again, no a lot of them pulled it off in 2009-2010.

then read the first part again... just because some managed to break 8GHz OC with a FX-8350 it is not something a normal user should or would ever do. If he actually can handle the voltage of such high OC without literally burning you wouldnt ask this question here.

[John Doe]

Originally posted by tacoshy:

then read the first part again... just because some managed to break 8GHz OC with a FX-8350 it is not something a normal user should or would ever do. If he actually can handle the voltage of such high OC without literally burning you wouldnt ask this question here.

You don't know what you're talking about because tons of people did do 4.2 with that CPU when it first came out. I can easily find the benches, info and whatsoever regarding that.

It's capable of that OC without huge voltage, no, it won't burn at all. It'll likely do it with a little bump in volts. It takes A LOT more than that to burn the CPU. Besides, it's already an old chip so EVEN if he's giving a lot of volts to it, it would still barely matter for the aging of the chip because the resale value of it is really low.

[Bone]

Originally posted by tacoshy:

Originally posted by Oh Lets Break It Down:

im currently Succeded my i7 870 oxed at 4.1ghz and this is stable as i get here

but is 4.2ghz will make difference gaming?

the jump from 4.1 to 4.2 GHz is marginal less then 2-3% in real performance. However a raise from 2.9GHz to 4.1Ghz is already pretty high and your voltage must be already cause alot of heat problems so I'm not sure if it is worth it to go further.

im currently failed ocing 4.2ghz unfortuneitly for whatever voltage i tried to put in
and 4.1ghz at least fire strike PHYSX is simillar as 3770

Originally posted by John Doe:

Originally posted by tacoshy:

you know the difference of Turbo and OC right? Just because you can Turbo above 3GHz doesnt mean you also can OC to over 3GHz. a 4.2GHz OC compared to 2.93GHz stock is pretty much ~40% raise.

Yes, I do. That chip is easily capable of 4.2. It doesn't matter that it's an around %40 raise, because I do know that those chips did it.

Even old Core 2 Quads were capable of doing 4.2, so the first-gen i5 would do it even easier.

and i think i lost silicon lottary here since 4.2ghz i coundnt done it

[John Doe]

You might do it with a small bump in voltage, but not even all that worth it TBH. What is your vcore and what are your temps?

[Bone]

Originally posted by John Doe:

You might do it with a small bump in voltage, but not even all that worth it TBH. What is your vcore and what are your temps?

as 4.1ghz its running at 1.384v for vcore and cinebench full load is around 75~82c with id cooling frost flow 240

gaming is hovering around 73~78c

[John Doe]

Tried dropping down to 1.35 / below? Those temps are a bit on the higher side.

[upcoast]

Originally posted by Oh Lets Break It Down:

im currently Succeded my i7 870 oxed at 4.1ghz and this is stable as i get here

but is 4.2ghz will make difference gaming?

100-200mhz is fairly pointless but 300-400+ mhz is getting somewhere, however all games are not created equally so most times overclocking the cpu is again pointless then you get into the gpu vs cpu bound games or both discussion.