is windows defender good enough?

[knighttime]

or should i install avast?

[just.kamk /idle]

Some article worth reading:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/antivirus-is-bad/

[Azza ☠]

kamk /#meh eredeti hozzászólása:

Some article worth reading:
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/antivirus-is-bad/

That's like saying condoms are bad, and you should just practice safe sex. If you don't know she's pregnant, just deny it!

[just.kamk /idle]

That wasn't the point of the article.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

kamk /#meh eredeti hozzászólása:

That wasn't the point of the article.

It's also a really stupid article and doesn't make any sense.
Upgrade OS and Software; yea because that alone keeps you safe... LOL nope.

[shiel]

Meh, I use Defender, but then again, I don't do anything but play games on my pc and never visit any random sites.

If I used my pc for anything else then I would be using something else to help protect myself.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Gaming PC should just not have any crap running in background, period; like useless AV suites.

[shiel]

Bad_Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Gaming PC should just not have any crap running in background, period; like useless AV suites.

Fair enough :P

[upcoast]

shiel eredeti hozzászólása:

Bad_Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Gaming PC should just not have any crap running in background, period; like useless AV suites.

Fair enough :P

Yup, I have 2 PCs one for gaming and the other for the nasty stuff ie web surfing/downloading and everything else.

Ps, I use ms defender with malwarebytes and superantispyware both free and run on demand.

[Monk]

I didn't use any av for years but got stuck with a nasty virus a few years back and wasn't in the situation where I could just wipe everything like I would normally do, and AVG managed to sort it out quickly and efficiently enough that I've been using it since, I don't notice any slowdown with it, and it has only cased minor hiccups with games a couple of times in 4 years, so, it gets my vote, I use malwarebytes as well though.

[Azza ☠]

kamk /#meh eredeti hozzászólása:

That wasn't the point of the article.

Well my point is:

- Windows Defender was created because of stupid blind users with zero security on their PCs getting infected by stealth trojan botnet viruses which wild spread across millions to the point of almost lost control. These botnets would be used to ddos, spam, and bounce attacks off even towards government/cia/fbi, etc. The owners of the pcs, where just like durr, no idea they are infected.

- Win 10 forced updating, again was to try the same deal. Outdated software with security holes, the owners of the pcs, where just like durr, no idea there's an update for security and have been backdoored for years.

- Given virus definations slow down the performance and don't always detect. That's why I suggest application control + firewall. You get way better performance, know what your software is doing, and higher levels of security.

Viruses these days don't do damage to a system, rather they are designed to stay hidden. Without A/V, how you are meant to know you are infected? When the ransomware screen pops up next boot? Oh you gonna be safe online, browsing only trusted websites. Ok then, well Facebook has been infected in the past, Yahoo has been infected, etc. Even CCleaner app which is a trusted company got a trojan virus in one of their previous versions due to the software distributer. Port scans, ad or script injections, etc. Your best bet is unplugging the ethernet + wifi.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Monk eredeti hozzászólása:

I didn't use any av for years but got stuck with a nasty virus a few years back and wasn't in the situation where I could just wipe everything like I would normally do, and AVG managed to sort it out quickly and efficiently enough that I've been using it since, I don't notice any slowdown with it, and it has only cased minor hiccups with games a couple of times in 4 years, so, it gets my vote, I use malwarebytes as well though.

In such a case as that, just have good manual scanners installed and keep them updated; and scan weekly or something like that. Such as...

Malwarebytes AntiMalware 3.x
ESET Free AV Online Scanner
TrendMicro HouseCall Free AV Online Scanner

Updating them and doing full scans every so often better then nothing.
It's not like you really need to go paying for a AV to get a good level of scanning ability that can clean up most messes. The need for realtime scanners is really just for paranoid folks; who probably just shouldn't be on the internet anyways, or simply need to use more common sense and watch where they go, what they click / download / run...

[Crystal Sharrd]

I use Webroot. The only Steam false positive I had was with the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic executable, and Fallout 4 the first time I enabled the Pip-Boy App.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

sonic65101 eredeti hozzászólása:

I use Webroot. The only Steam false positive I had was with the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic executable, and Fallout 4 the first time I enabled the Pip-Boy App.

Again, users need to just exclude the entire Steam folder (or other game or game client root folder) in their AV's exclusion listing; then you'd be fine. There is no reason to scan there.

[Monk]

AVG us £50 a year, and it's actually caught a bunch of crap, I scan regularly, and am pretty good at not clicking where I shouldn't, but, it's an easy expense to swallow, works well, doesn't slow down my system and has proven itself to save me hours of work in the past, and, frankly, £50 a year is worth it over spending a day fixing a cockup if I'm not in the mood to simply wipe everything.

[SoldierScar]

Windows 10 Defender + Malwarebytes + common sense is all you need.