X And K Chips Worth It If Not Overclocking?

[Russian Doggo]

Planning an upgrade to an i5 (currently using a Pentium G4600 which has actually surpassed my expectations) but i'm not sure which one i should get. To be entirely honest i don't have that much of an interest in overclocking especially due to PSU limitations (only a 500W) I have a few ideas on what i might want to purchase either the Intel Core i5 7600K or the Intel Core i5 7500 (maybe a regular 7600 but at the moment the price difference just isn't worth it for .1 Ghz) Thoughts?

[Omega]

You will also need a z270 motherboard for overclocking, which you probably don't have. K CPUs usually have a slightly higher stock clock speed then the non K version.

The non K version is sold with a stock cooler. The K version isn't.

500w is enough for a overclocked i7 7700k and a 1080 ti.

[Russian Doggo]

Originally posted by Omega:

You will also need a z270 motherboard for overclocking, which you probably don't have. K CPUs usually have a slightly higher stock clock speed then the non K version.

The non K version is sold with a stock cooler. The K version isn't.

500w is enough for a overclocked i7 7700k and a 1080 ti.

You're kinda like wikipedia. You provide me a lot of useful information without actually answering my question.

[Azza ☠]

Short answer:

K (unlocked) - Yes, can be used on same motherboard and auto-clock on some for a boost
X (eXtreme) - No, expensive with new motherboard

i5 - Optimal for gaming purposes
i7 - Same as i5, except also multiple tasking (with hyperthreading)

i5 7600K vs i5 7500 = 19%+ performance gain (both single core and multi), making the 7600K slightly better value for what you get from it (depending on the price tags there).

ps: It will depend on your PSU model (wattage on rails) and the graphics card (highest power drain) to if you have even juice for it at 500W (normally recommend 550W min).

[Omega]

Originally posted by Dr. Hax:

Originally posted by Omega:

You will also need a z270 motherboard for overclocking, which you probably don't have. K CPUs usually have a slightly higher stock clock speed then the non K version.

The non K version is sold with a stock cooler. The K version isn't.

500w is enough for a overclocked i7 7700k and a 1080 ti.

You're kinda like wikipedia. You provide me a lot of useful information without actually answering my question.

With most K CPUs like the 7600k it's not worth it since the clockspeed is onl a little bit higher. With the 7700k it might be worth it if you are willing to spend a little bit more.

BUT!!!
Wait for the 8600k. It will be officially launching tommorow.

[Russian Doggo]

Originally posted by Omega:

Originally posted by Dr. Hax:

You're kinda like wikipedia. You provide me a lot of useful information without actually answering my question.

With most K CPUs like the 7600k it's not worth it since the clockspeed is onl a little bit higher. With the 7700k it might be worth it if you are willing to spend a little bit more.

BUT!!!
Wait for the 8600k. It will be officially launching tommorow.

I think i'd rather headbutt a beltsander.

[Monk]

What motherboard do you have ?

Also, a 500w PSU is cutting it dangerously close for a 7700k and a 1080ti, given the 1080ti can pull over 300w alone.
But I'm guessing that wasn't your point, 500w should be fine, and if you have a z270 motherboard you should get the k chip and overclock, it takes 5 minutes for a basic oc and no need to touch voltage for zero risk free performance gains.
If you don't have a Z series motherboard, I'd say it's not really worth the premium of getting a k chip, as their real benefit is the HUGE gains they get from being overclocked, not the small base clock boost.

[rotNdude]

I would probably get the 7600k over the 7500.

https://ark.intel.com/products/97123/Intel-Core-i5-7500-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
Processor Base Frequency
3.40 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency
3.80 GHz

https://ark.intel.com/products/97144/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz
Processor Base Frequency
3.80 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency
4.20 GHz

[just.kamk /idle]

Well, 25 CAD more for the 7600k, and non-k costs pretty much the same, so i'd go for that - no matter if you OC or not, due mentioned higher base clock.

Except... you gonna have to buy a cooler, which sets you back another 30+ bucks.

(a solid 500W PSU will be good either way)

[Russian Doggo]

Forgot to mention my motherboard is capable of overclocking but it's really wierd about it. When i tried overclocking my GPU (issa 1050 Ti) it acted really strangely and the coil whine that i experience (usually easy to tune out due to my headphones) was significantly louder and when i tried doing a benchmark it almost IMMEDIATLEY thermal throttled. I wasn't even pushing it that far either. Also @Moronic Cat Plays there is a slight clearance issue with my case (strange due to it having really good height but not too much width) which is another issue when it comes to aftermarket coolers, at least the good ones that is.

[Revelene]

Originally posted by Dr. Hax:

Forgot to mention my motherboard is capable of overclocking but it's really wierd about it. When i tried overclocking my GPU (issa 1050 Ti) it acted really strangely and the coil whine that i experience (usually easy to tune out due to my headphones) was significantly louder and when i tried doing a benchmark it almost IMMEDIATLEY thermal throttled. I wasn't even pushing it that far either. Also @Moronic Cat Plays there is a slight clearance issue with my case (strange due to it having really good height but not too much width) which is another issue when it comes to aftermarket coolers, at least the good ones that is.

GPU overclocking has nothing to do with the motherboard.

Your motherboard capabilities affect CPU and RAM overclocking.

[Russian Doggo]

Originally posted by Revelene:

Originally posted by Dr. Hax:

Forgot to mention my motherboard is capable of overclocking but it's really wierd about it. When i tried overclocking my GPU (issa 1050 Ti) it acted really strangely and the coil whine that i experience (usually easy to tune out due to my headphones) was significantly louder and when i tried doing a benchmark it almost IMMEDIATLEY thermal throttled. I wasn't even pushing it that far either. Also @Moronic Cat Plays there is a slight clearance issue with my case (strange due to it having really good height but not too much width) which is another issue when it comes to aftermarket coolers, at least the good ones that is.

GPU overclocking has nothing to do with the motherboard.

Your motherboard capabilities affect CPU and RAM overclocking.

:O

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just a sign of a poor GPU, has nothing to do with the Motherboard with regards to how the GPU acts, OC's, etc.

If it coil-whines, then return it. Plus its fairly pointless to OC GPUs anyways.

[Russian Doggo]

Originally posted by Bad_Motha:

Just a sign of a poor GPU, has nothing to do with the Motherboard with regards to how the GPU acts, OC's, etc.

If it coil-whines, then return it. Plus its fairly pointless to OC GPUs anyways.

So many things that were just said hurt my soul. It only began whining after i got the new motherboard (confirmed to be GPU whine rather than CPU fan, faulty motherboard components, etc.) Also 99% of the time if you try to return a GPU for coil whine they will tell you that it's just something that happens.

YouTube™ Video: Coil Whine as Fast As Possible 

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Also, with the 1050 Ti, OCing can result in up to an additional 10 frames, which in some older games likely won't make a difference due to already stupidly high framerates however in newer games that difference can be making something unplayable, playable or even something playable, enjoyable. Anywho No you're wrong.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You don't tell them you are returning it for that reason; u tell them it's faulty; which is 100% true.
Nothing under normal conditions should coil-whine, period. Just make stuff up to get it returned; its that simple. Just refund it, end of story and buy a completely different model.

[Russian Doggo]

Originally posted by Bad_Motha:

You don't tell them you are returning it for that reason; u tell them it's faulty; which is 100% true.
Nothing under normal conditions should coil-whine, period. Just make stuff up to get it returned; its that simple. Just refund it, end of story and buy a completely different model.

I get the feeling that you didn't even watch the video, because if you did you'd realize that the replacement would likely still whine, remember how i said that it didn't whine before i got this motherboard? In the video it states that some motherboards just cause more coil whine, which this one evidently does. I'm glad that you don't have any coil whine but your next GPU, PSU, or Motherboard upgrade could make that a different story.