A10 7890k vs A12 9800

[RRW359]

I have an a10 7890k running in dual graphics with an r7 250. It can play all the games I need it to, but it is a bit underpowered and I feel that it won't be to long before a game comes out that I want but can't play. I know I could just put a better graphics card in it, but I really like the idea of having a CPU with intigrated graphics and actually using it.
I've seen a lot of comparisons between the 7890k and the 9800 as CPU's, but not many comparing the graphics of both (which is my main bottleneck). I was wondering how much of an improvement I would get if I upgraded and if it would be worth it.

[Alcatraz]

Holy cow dont get an ancient cpu dude.. Do yourself a favor and get g4560 and b250 mobo instead.. It has Intel HD Graphics 630 in it.

[RRW359]

引用自 Alcatraz：

Holy cow dont get an ancient cpu dude.. Do yourself a favor and get g4560 and b250 mobo instead.. It has Intel HD Graphics 630 in it.

I already have the 7890k and I believe the 9800 just came out.
I always heard that while the CPU its self is usually more powerful, Intel's iGPU's were much less powerful than AMD's

[Omega]

It's better if you keep saving up for a new PC.

The R7 is moved to legacy if I remember correctly, meaning it does not get driver updates anymore.

Also those APUs are ancient and outperformed by much cheaper modern CPUs.

[Astraea Kisaragi]

"Radeon has better iGPU" used be true, but not anymore.Their new powerful CPU series, the Ryzen line has no iGPU yet and everything else from AMD is declared as "obsolete"
Often also it happened mainly because games where better optimized for Radeon as onto Intel HD.
If you want truly game, get a system which has a dedicated GPU, ideally a desktop. Laptops suck.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You'd just be changing out an apple for an orange...

Everything on AMD FM2 is way sub par for moderrn day Gaming, period.
All are below a simple $50-60 Pentium class.

Save up and go for Intel or AMD Ryzen.
Otherwise you're just throwing money away.

[RRW359]

引用自 Astraea Kisaragi：

"Radeon has better iGPU" used be true, but not anymore.Their new powerful CPU series, the Ryzen line has no iGPU yet and everything else from AMD is declared as "obsolete"
Often also it happened mainly because games where better optimized for Radeon as onto Intel HD.
If you want truly game, get a system which has a dedicated GPU, ideally a desktop. Laptops suck.

Isn't Bristol Ridge Ryzen?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Don't buy any APU based on AM4, it's not worth it.

Get at least Ryzen-3 or better.

[Omega]

引用自 RRW359：

引用自 Astraea Kisaragi：

"Radeon has better iGPU" used be true, but not anymore.Their new powerful CPU series, the Ryzen line has no iGPU yet and everything else from AMD is declared as "obsolete"
Often also it happened mainly because games where better optimized for Radeon as onto Intel HD.
If you want truly game, get a system which has a dedicated GPU, ideally a desktop. Laptops suck.

Isn't Bristol Ridge Ryzen?

It's Bulldozer I think.

[AbedsBrother]

引用自 Omega：

引用自 RRW359：

Isn't Bristol Ridge Ryzen?

It's Bulldozer I think.

Right, and Bristol Ridge still requires the (new) AM4 motherboard socket.
I believe Raven Ridge is the Ryzen APU series and it isn't out yet, though there are a few "leaks."

引用自 Bad_Motha：

Don't buy any APU based on AM4, it's not worth it.

Get at least Ryzen-3 or better.

Good advice for the present.

@OP Truth is you'll get much better gaming performance from a Ryzen 3 or hyperthreaded Pentium w/ an RX 560 or GTX 1050 than from an APU, and you won't spend that much more money. And since the new APU's are on AM4, you'll need a new motherboard & ram whatever you decide.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Why would you look at what's below Ryzen-3 ? Everything Althon that is below these are sub-par at best. You might as well not even upgrade to AM4 if you're going to go that route in a CPU, it will still be just as poor as FM2 or AM3.

Look at Ryzen-3 or better and an actual GPU that can run games smoothly, like GTX 1050 Ti or better.