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dej 7 set 2017, ore 22:34

Ryzen 1200 or Intel Pentium G4560

I have recently been figuring out the parts for a pc build and I was wondering which CPU would be better paired with a Gtx 1060 6g

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vadim 9 set 2017, ore 0:32

Messaggio originale di Astraea Kisaragi:
Intel noticed that its a lost battle without raising the number of cores.

Its a pity that Intel started to increase core number instead of raising single-threded performance. And I afraid because of Ryzen Intel can delay adding AVX-512 to mainstream CPUs.

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Astraea Kisaragi 9 set 2017, ore 0:39

I get your concern but if you look mobile CPUs, they raising the core count like crazy. You can now get hexacores in budget smartpones for a little above 100€. Of course that they don't get close to PC gaming CPUs performance, even if thery would have several dozens of those weakling cores.

But if you look Intel even without the cores add, they didnt raised that IPC by that much. There was like 10-15% only between the generations. AMD being not a viable option for years made them lazy like "ppl will buy our CPUs anyways"

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vadim 9 set 2017, ore 0:42

Messaggio originale di Astraea Kisaragi:
I get your concern but if you look mobile CPUs, they raising the core count like crazy. You can now get hexacores in budget smartpones for a little above 100€.

These are totally different things. First, most so-called "octacore" ARM CPUs are really two quads on a single die. One is energy-efficient and one high-performance. They can not work simultaneously.

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Astraea Kisaragi 9 set 2017, ore 0:47

Okay I admit I dont get the mobile CPU market too much. All I get that is there Snapdragon or Mediatek, but guess is all ARM based.
Usually I buy a cheap but good-bang-for-the-buck-bit-better-brand smartphone, like Huawei or Xiaomi. If is swift, has a good camera/battery life and is not some ching-cheng brand from some hidden chinese village, then is my choice.

Btw did you ever had a AMD CPU, Sir Vadim?

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vadim 9 set 2017, ore 0:55

Messaggio originale di Astraea Kisaragi:
Btw did you ever had a AMD CPU, Sir Vadim?

A lot! When Intel released its Pentium 4, which was the same fault as AMD Bulldozer, I switched to Athlon XP (to be precise, Athlon MP, this was dual CPU rig). And earlier. But after Athlon AMD started to lose competition and poked in the tail of Intel. All the innovations were only from Intel. I carefully compared Core 2 and Phenom II and since then I have not bought any AMD processors - they have become uncompetitive for my tasks. They are still uncompetitive.

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Squirrell 9 set 2017, ore 5:58

Messaggio originale di Astraea Kisaragi:
Intel noticed that its a lost battle without raising the number of cores.

Except that since Ryzen was released it appears that Intel has increased it s market share with gamers, if the steam hardware survey is a good indicator. That might be a big if.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/processormfg/

It is going to be a very interesting battle when coffeelake and the new pentiums are released.

From my days in mobiles business intelligence, what tends to happen is that a new product release creates interest across the board. So whilst ryzen captured early sales it appears that intel has captured more of the system upgrades.

I think a major reason is likely to be ryzen's lack of marketing and so failing to take advantage of its opportunity. Intel ads for i7's are often on tv here, but I have never seen an amd ad. However without seeing the cpu model id's it is hard to be certain about what is happening.

(I'm still playing on an i7-2600 and before that I had an amd. I only buy what seems better. As yet I haven't needed to upgrade the cpu even with a 1080ti and 4K.)

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