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GearboxMedia 2017년 9월 7일 오후 7시 45분

Amd vs intel for gaming.

I have always had an i7 but I am thinking of building a tower and I hear the AMD fx7th gen is pretty decent even though the heat output is a bit much. Thoughts on if I should run AMD or Intel?

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Mossy Snake 2017년 9월 7일 오후 7시 56분

Wait, you actually want to swap from Intel to FX?

You serious?

If you're going AMD, go Ryzen. Just know that current Intel's i7-7700k is the king of gaming right now.

PepuroniPeetsa 2017년 9월 7일 오후 8시 07분

If you go for AMD, go for Ryzen. FX Is so old and outdated that it can't even keep up with a Pentium G4560.

Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2017년 9월 7일 오후 8시 15분

Which i7 do you have???

The FX 8350 is only good as the Intel Pentium kabylake, or skylake i3. There is no reason to ever look at anything older than Ryzen from AMD, unless you can get the FX 8350, for less than $40, which even if you did, is a dead end as there nothing to upgrade towards as AM3+ is a dead end.

Your options is Ryzen R5 1600, or R7 1700 with AMD, or wait for Intel to launch it's new CPU line up coffee lake, which the i5, and i7 will be a six core processor.

Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 15분

AtTheGates님이 먼저 게시:
The only FX that could hang with an i7 was the 95xx chips, with a 220W TDP. A bit much is just slightly underselling the heat they threw out.

Who the ♥♥♥♥ needs that? OC an 8300 for 80 dolla

Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 17분

AtTheGates님이 먼저 게시:
Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
Who the ♥♥♥♥ needs that? OC an 8300 for 80 dolla

Yeah, but good luck hitting 5Ghz on most 83xx chips.

So you get a 9xxx just for 5ghz?

I got 4.9 I think with one 8300
Rest did at least 4.7

Did 5.2 on a 4300

Yes 24/7

Bad 💀 Motha 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 30분

The best AMD FX even @ 5 Ghz is still no better than a Pentium or i3; so what's your point.
No, never buy those. They are 100% dead... AMD Ryzen should be your only bottom line AMD based consideration from 2017 on-ward.

Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 40분

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:
The best AMD FX even @ 5 Ghz is still no better than a Pentium or i3; so what's your point.
No, never buy those. They are 100% dead... AMD Ryzen should be your only bottom line AMD based consideration from 2017 on-ward.

Put 8 threads on a Pentium or i3

AtTheGates님이 먼저 게시:
Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
So you get a 9xxx just for 5ghz?

I got 4.9 I think with one 8300
Rest did at least 4.7

Did 5.2 on a 4300

Yes 24/7

FX 95xx and FX 83xx are 8 core (8 module), the 4300 is 4.

Yeah I know that....

Cathulhu 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 48분

Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:
The best AMD FX even @ 5 Ghz is still no better than a Pentium or i3; so what's your point.
No, never buy those. They are 100% dead... AMD Ryzen should be your only bottom line AMD based consideration from 2017 on-ward.
Put 8 threads on a Pentium or i3

Not that useful in games that can't utilize them. Which is pretty much all of them, with very few exceptions.

Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 53분

Cathulhu님이 먼저 게시:
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Put 8 threads on a Pentium or i3
with very few exceptions.

Sure about that? Not gonna get into it again sorry

Monk 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 54분

Inthink he probably meant ryzen 7, or he's trying to start world war 3, if you only game and have the budget, wait for next month for coffee lakes 8700k, it looks to destroy the current 7700k and ryzen 7 1700.

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Bad 💀 Motha 2017년 9월 7일 오후 9시 57분

Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:
The best AMD FX even @ 5 Ghz is still no better than a Pentium or i3; so what's your point.
No, never buy those. They are 100% dead... AMD Ryzen should be your only bottom line AMD based consideration from 2017 on-ward.
Put 8 threads on a Pentium or i3

You can put however many threads you want on any CPU, period...

The bottom line is however you wish to compare AMD FX to others; the FX falls short... simple as that. There really is no up side. The only upside might be something that would actually use multi-core big time, like Rendering; that would allow such a CPU to pull ahead from lesser ones.

But in Gaming, no... a 6th Gen i3 holds onto the same performance in gaming as any FX, period. Yea that IS how bad they are.

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Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 10시 00분

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:
Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
Put 8 threads on a Pentium or i3

You can put however many threads you want on any CPU, period...

The bottom line is however you wish to compare AMD FX to others; the FX falls short... simple as that. There really is no up side. The only upside might be something that would actually use multi-core big time, like Rendering; that would allow such a CPU to pull ahead from lesser ones.

But in Gaming, no... a 6th Gen i3 holds onto the same performance in gaming as any FX, period. Yea that IS how bad they are.

You can put 100000000000000 to the thosanths exponential threads on one core........

2 core of a pentium or i3 a FX 8 core will and especially OCed give better performance if the game can use them. I dont see what there is too debate. In Doom alone an FX 4300 performs similar in budget to those cpus, the 6 and 8 core AMDs are much better

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Bad 💀 Motha 2017년 9월 7일 오후 10시 09분

Generation X님이 먼저 게시:
Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

You can put however many threads you want on any CPU, period...

The bottom line is however you wish to compare AMD FX to others; the FX falls short... simple as that. There really is no up side. The only upside might be something that would actually use multi-core big time, like Rendering; that would allow such a CPU to pull ahead from lesser ones.

But in Gaming, no... a 6th Gen i3 holds onto the same performance in gaming as any FX, period. Yea that IS how bad they are.

You can put 100000000000000 to the thosanths exponential threads on one core........

2 core of a pentium or i3 a FX 8 core will and especially OCed give better performance if the game can use them. I dont see what there is too debate. In Doom alone an FX 4300 performs similar in budget to those cpus, the 6 and 8 core AMDs are much better

There is no point debating any of this non-sense; all the data is there that says you are wrong when it comes to gaming performance. It's that simple really.

Overall, this is not a debate. The OP is looking for which CPU he/she should lean towards; unless it is Ryzen for something of an AMD choice, then the only other option is Intel... simple as that really.

Don't buy outdated stuff; it's dead.

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Gen X 2017년 9월 7일 오후 10시 16분

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:
Generation X님이 먼저 게시:

You can put 100000000000000 to the thosanths exponential threads on one core........

2 core of a pentium or i3 a FX 8 core will and especially OCed give better performance if the game can use them. I dont see what there is too debate. In Doom alone an FX 4300 performs similar in budget to those cpus, the 6 and 8 core AMDs are much better

There is no point debating any of this non-sense; all the data is there that says you are wrong when it comes to gaming performance. It's that simple really.

Overall, this is not a debate. The OP is looking for which CPU he/she should lean towards; unless it is Ryzen for something of an AMD choice, then the only other option is Intel... simple as that really.

Don't buy outdated stuff; it's dead.

What if you cant afford a ryzen? But if you want to talk data and you would last I expect to argue non sense with me on heres data

Sure they hold thier own, https://www.techspot.com/review/1173-doom-benchmarks/page5.html

Doesnt change the fact the game is using more threads and if it werent for 8 cores they would perform like the FX 4300 which still gets way over 60 fps maxed.

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