AMD Athlon X4 860k Processor Feedback

[Realjd]

I got a 1050ti + 16GB RAM
MS-7721 motherboard
With all of this, what will I run games such as R6 Siege and GTA 5 at in fps?
Motherboard has a FM2+ socket, if not the processor listed above, recommendations for anything that my motherboard can use is gladly accepted as long as it is under $100.

Plz just answer question...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Run yea; if u want like 30 FPS maybe.
Terrible CPU. 6th or 7th Gen Pentium would run circles around that.
Nothing to upgrade on FM2, it was a poor choice from the very start.
GPU is fine, if you could upgrade Motherboard + CPU + RAM
Or to avoid buying DDR4, get a Z97 Board + 4690K / 4790K CPU

[Realjd]

Publicado originalmente por Bad_Motha:

Run yea; if u want like 30 FPS maybe.
Terrible CPU. 6th or 7th Gen Pentium would run circles around that.
Nothing to upgrade on FM2, it was a poor choice from the very start.
GPU is fine, if you could upgrade Motherboard + CPU + RAM
Or to avoid buying DDR4, get a Z97 Board + 4690K / 4790K CPU

Hi, I appreciate the feedback :) but I don't understand how i would still only run it at like 30 fps. I ran siege at like 20 fps with a REALLY BAD CPU. (AMD A6 7400 APU). This Athlon is supposed to be better than it by a mile. Benchmark test shows that the Athlon has a better performance than the A6 by almost 3000.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Athlon X4 860k is basically the better CPU (these have no onboard GPU) by far for FM2+
But its still just poor at best. It doesn't even come close to most AM3+ CPUs; such as Phenom II X4 or X6 series; to which most other upgrade options such as FX-6300 or FX-8 are a decent step up even above those Phenoms (on a decent board w/ 970 or 990FX chipset); to which these you could run everything well...

Overall both FM2/AM3 are extremely outdated; it takes an FX-8350/8370 just to touch a 6th Gen i3 or 7th Gen Pentium in Gaming.

So this all puts ANYTHING FM2+ way way down the list and doesn't even measure on the charts really as a means of comparison, since its no where close to any those other CPUs offers on say AM3+ or the various Intel sockets/chipsets.

Honestly, the better upgrade choice, bang for buck, with an upgrade path still, should u need better CPU later, would be something like these:

Intel 7th Gen KabyLake [LGA-1151]
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gxQcD8

AMD Ryzen [AM4]
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4wXJ3F

[Realjd]

Publicado originalmente por Bad_Motha:

Athlon X4 860k is basically the better CPU (these have no onboard GPU) by far for FM2+
But its still just poor at best. It doesn't even come close to most AM3+ CPUs; such as Phenom II X4 or X6 series; to which most other upgrade options such as FX-6300 or FX-8 are a decent step up even above those Phenoms (on a decent board w/ 970 or 990FX chipset); to which these you could run everything well...

Overall both FM2/AM3 are extremely outdated; it takes an FX-8350/8370 just to touch a 6th Gen i3 or 7th Gen Pentium in Gaming.

So this all puts ANYTHING FM2+ way way down the list and doesn't even measure on the charts really as a means of comparison, since its no where close to any those other CPUs offers on say AM3+ or the various Intel sockets/chipsets.

Honestly, the better upgrade choice, bang for buck, with an upgrade path still, should u need better CPU later, would be something like these:

Intel 7th Gen KabyLake [LGA-1151]
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gxQcD8

AMD Ryzen [AM4]
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4wXJ3F

Thank you for your time, I truly appreciate it. I will definitely take into consideration what you have just shown, as I will need to save up more money for this to actually happen though, haha. Thank You for the feedback, cheers :)

[upcoast]

https://www.techspot.com/review/1455-ryzen-3/page3.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_3_1200_and_1300x_review,19.html

If you're going to be saving up you may as well go for mainstream ^ with a Ryzen 5 1600 $198 / 1600X $227 but 1600x needs hsf and 1600 does not it's included in box. Reg 1600 with mobo/ddr4 would be $50 more than the 1300x set up.

[Arya]

Publicado originalmente por Kalsolette:

Those CPUs are generally ok, but they need to be overclocked to really achieve their potential. Without L3 cache you're relying much more on sheer Mhz brute force. They usually overclock very well though, and people often underestimate them for gaming. My cousin has my old 760K/Radeon 7850 setup, and overclocked it can run most stuff fine. I'd recommed sticking a Hyper 212 Evo on it and pushing it as far as it will go whilst being stable. The sweet spot seems to be around 4.4-4.6Ghz on air cooling.

Oh yeah, and these CPUs benefit more from higher MHz RAM that other DDR3 CPUs. IIRC they max out at 1866Mhz stock.

Noob question; what does L3 cache actually do? What contribution does it make to performance?

[Omega]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfıe:

Publicado originalmente por Kalsolette:

Those CPUs are generally ok, but they need to be overclocked to really achieve their potential. Without L3 cache you're relying much more on sheer Mhz brute force. They usually overclock very well though, and people often underestimate them for gaming. My cousin has my old 760K/Radeon 7850 setup, and overclocked it can run most stuff fine. I'd recommed sticking a Hyper 212 Evo on it and pushing it as far as it will go whilst being stable. The sweet spot seems to be around 4.4-4.6Ghz on air cooling.

Oh yeah, and these CPUs benefit more from higher MHz RAM that other DDR3 CPUs. IIRC they max out at 1866Mhz stock.

Noob question; what does L3 cache actually do? What contribution does it make to performance?

L1 L2 and L3 cache is something similair to RAM but MUCH faster the CPU uses it to store data that it will need again after a couple of computations.

If the CPU stored the data in the RAM instead it would have to wait a while for the data to arrive and while it is waiting it will be idle.

https://youtu.be/sHqNMHf2UNI

[Arya]

Thanks guys, just wanted to double-check my knowledge.