So I want to make a PC

[Rio]

I want a motherboard with 2 gpu (Video card) slots, 64 max ram, usb 3.0 or 3.1, DDR4 ram, can have 3 hdd/sdd.
A ryzen cpu
An okay graphics card (I'll get a second later if I need it)
1 Small SSD to run windows off of (I already have a HDD)
8 - 16 ddr4 Ram (As ram is expensive atm)

Mostly I want to play Heavily tech modded minecraft (like industrialcraft or pixelmon or thaumcraft), space engineers, 7 days, Ark, subnautica, chkn, factorio, rimworld, terraria, gmod, starbound, the forest, ect. I want to be able to run games at medium quality at I suppose 1080 resolution with 60 fps (Though I'd love to see 1000 fps in minecraft unmodded lol). I'm not graphics crazed so 720 is fine too I guess. As long as the games look okay and not like a blurry mess. I usually watch youtubes in 360, so I'm not super picky.

I have around 900 dollars atm for this build. And more than anything the motherboard is important to me as it'll let me most upgrade in the future.

My current PC is a lenovo dualcore 1.8 intergrated. So almost anything is probably a huge upgrade. This lenovo is a non-upgradable pc. (I might be able to reuse the case and power supply in a the new build but idk)

I'm considering just cutting ark out if its the only game thats going to force my pc build into sky high costs.

I've seen that recently Ryzen has new Ryzen 3 quad cores at a very low 100 dollar price. But I'm also tempted to get the Ryzan 7 since I'd imagine the games I like to play are cpu heavy like super modded minecraft, factorio, space engineers, ect (The i5 x is very temping, but I want to go ryzen this generation). But the price difference is a lot and will I really need it?

I don't have the internet for streaming, but I still might like to record myself playing games. I don't plan on overclocking, unless I absolutely need too (as I've never done it before and don't want to fry my pc or kill my cpu's life span. I know many ryzens are all about the overclock, even the 3).

Any recommendations or advice?

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

scratch the 1000 fps thing, that's pointless.

[Omega]

- 16gb is all you need for gaming.
- Do not bother with SLI or Crossfire. It usually couses a lot of issues and most games don't even support it.
- With a $900 you can run any game ultra settings 1080p.
- 1000 FPS is bull.


Here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH7kBP
- You can buy a SSD later.

[Vemix]

Your aiming for a 1080p 60 fps gaming pc under $900? Have you tried looking at some prebuilds or getting an idea on https://pcpartpicker.com/ ?

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I am currently using this build for 1080p 60 fps.

CPU - Intel

- Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

-Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Motherboard

- MSI - B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Memory

- Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Storage

- Kingston - SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital

- Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card

- EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card

Power Supply

- EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply


My mistake on my pc build was that I didn't research enough and have a terrible cpu so I get freezing / stutter lag because the GPU is good with a 7500 and not a 6500.

TL:DR - Research and make sure all your parts are a wombo combo.

[Rio]

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ eredeti hozzászólása:

scratch the 1000 fps thing, that's pointless.

Only kinda, if you have that much fps on the base game. You can lose a lot of fps via mods and stuff you make. I've always been strongly fps bottleneck on things I make in minecraft. Like a floating mob tower that uses water dispensers to switch between dry spawn platforms and water push mob off platforms while running industriacraft could bring fps super low.

Pixelmon was barely able to run.

Thaumcraft fps would go down super from auras an using multi golem workers in a small area,

[Vemix]

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

- 16gb is all you need for gaming.
- Do not bother with SLI or Crossfire. It usually couses a lot of issues and most games don't even support it.
- With a $900 you can run any game ultra settings 1080p.
- 1000 FPS is bull.


Here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH7kBP
- You can buy a SSD later.

After my 5 minutes of typing this is a good build. Regarding to the SSD, make sure to buy one as it will improve loading times.

[Omega]

Vemix eredeti hozzászólása:

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

- 16gb is all you need for gaming.
- Do not bother with SLI or Crossfire. It usually couses a lot of issues and most games don't even support it.
- With a $900 you can run any game ultra settings 1080p.
- 1000 FPS is bull.


Here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH7kBP
- You can buy a SSD later.

After my 5 minutes of typing this is a good build. Regarding to the SSD, make sure to buy one as it will improve loading times.

OP can always buy one later. Its better to spend more on the CPU and GPU now to get the best peformance that the budget allows.

[tacoshy]

well the cheapest Ryzen you should go is a 1600. Would make alot of sense to OC it and get most out of it.
Also Ryzen really much depend on high frequency RAM. Getting a good moBo which is future proofed and allows alot of upgrading is expensive too...900$ are pretty less for it. It could work with some cut down. At that price range and that what you actually want to play I strongly recommend Intel as those games you pointed out are relaying more on single core performance then multi core support of ryzen.

[vadim]

I agree with Omega. OP has limited budget, so it would better to ditch unnecessary parts as SSD.

[Rio]

Vemix eredeti hozzászólása:

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

- 16gb is all you need for gaming.
- Do not bother with SLI or Crossfire. It usually couses a lot of issues and most games don't even support it.
- With a $900 you can run any game ultra settings 1080p.
- 1000 FPS is bull.


Here you go: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YH7kBP
- You can buy a SSD later.

After my 5 minutes of typing this is a good build. Regarding to the SSD, make sure to buy one as it will improve loading times.

The only thing I plan on putting on the SSD is the windows 10. At first I considered ark but its over 100 GB and updates a lot with huge updates. I've heard of 20 GB updates from it from people. Wouldn't that after a few updates kill all the space on a lower end ssd?

This year I had to buy a new HDD 1TB because my 2 year old one died after I put all my steam games and videos on it. I've never used an SSD before but I've heard running windows off one offers a much greater speeds and uses less system resources.

I plan on keeping my hdd as I just bought it too, An it has window 8 on it. So that's also why I'm putting the windows 10 on an SSD.

[tacoshy]

I would switch Omegas DDR4-3000 RAM to DDR4-3200 RAm with the same brand and modell (just higher frequency) that are at the same cost. otherwise solid.

[Omega]

tacoshy eredeti hozzászólása:

I would switch Omegas DDR4-3000 RAM to DDR4-3200 RAm with the same brand and modell (just higher frequency) that are at the same cost. otherwise solid.

Done: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dRqxJV

[tacoshy]

Sashie eredeti hozzászólása:

Vemix eredeti hozzászólása:

After my 5 minutes of typing this is a good build. Regarding to the SSD, make sure to buy one as it will improve loading times.

The only thing I plan on putting on the SSD is the windows 10. At first I considered ark but its over 100 GB and updates a lot with huge updates. I've heard of 20 GB updates from it from people. Wouldn't that after a few updates kill all the space on a lower end ssd?

This year I had to buy a new HDD 1TB because my 2 year old one died after I put all my steam games and videos on it. I've never used an SSD before but I've heard running windows off one offers a much greater speeds and uses less system resources.

I plan on keeping my hdd as I just bought it too, An it has window 8 on it. So that's also why I'm putting the windows 10 on an SSD.

what HDD? if there is an os on it you should format it too to get rid of it. no need to have multiple drives with different OS running in the same system. And SSD is something that you can easily add anytime you want.

[Rio]

tacoshy eredeti hozzászólása:

Sashie eredeti hozzászólása:

The only thing I plan on putting on the SSD is the windows 10. At first I considered ark but its over 100 GB and updates a lot with huge updates. I've heard of 20 GB updates from it from people. Wouldn't that after a few updates kill all the space on a lower end ssd?

This year I had to buy a new HDD 1TB because my 2 year old one died after I put all my steam games and videos on it. I've never used an SSD before but I've heard running windows off one offers a much greater speeds and uses less system resources.

I plan on keeping my hdd as I just bought it too, An it has window 8 on it. So that's also why I'm putting the windows 10 on an SSD.

what HDD? if there is an os on it you should format it too to get rid of it. no need to have multiple drives with different OS running in the same system. And SSD is something that you can easily add anytime you want.

I think its a 1 TB seagate barracuda (I forget the exact specs). I'd rather not format it and lose my data. I just lost everything when the last HDD failed earlier and its taken ages to redownload 1/3 of the games I had with dsl internet.

When I got the new HDD, I was running linux mint on it at first. Before I found out I could get my windows 8 back from microsoft as everything else on my computer was the same.

I did enjoy linux mint (More than windows), but it wasn't very good for gaming. I almost made a dual boot HDD Win8/Linux mint. But didn't want to damage the hdd.

If I'm running my pc off the SDD, will win 8 being on the hdd relly make that big a difference?

The win8 version is a came with the prebuilt pc version, not a stand alone you can have it installed on any 1 computer at a time version. Otherwise I'd not get windows 10. Since I'm running windows 10, this won't be a problem right? The hdd won't lock out or anything on a new pc will it? I've not read anything saying so.

quote=Vemix;1471966894875140682]Your aiming for a 1080p 60 fps gaming pc under $900? Have you tried looking at some prebuilds or getting an idea on https://pcpartpicker.com/ ?

[Building your own PC and need ideas on where to get started? Explore our build guides, which cover systems for all use-cases and budgets, or create your own and share it with our community.]

I am currently using this build for 1080p 60 fps.

CPU - Intel

- Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor

CPU Cooler

-Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

Motherboard

- MSI - B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Memory

- Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Storage

- Kingston - SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital

- Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Video Card

- EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING Video Card

Power Supply

- EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply


My mistake on my pc build was that I didn't research enough and have a terrible cpu so I get freezing / stutter lag because the GPU is good with a 7500 and not a 6500.

TL:DR - Research and make sure all your parts are a wombo combo. [/quote]

Mostly up till now I've gotten ideas from https://elitegamingcomputers.com/good-cheap-gaming-computers/#24 (The 800 and 700 computers). Then looking at amazon computer parts (For prices/specs) and watching some youtubes on people comparing parts and making computers.

I did also check walmart and amazon for some prebuilt computers and the 900 dollar range on sale and some computers were pretty tempting. But I'm thinking its best to pick my own parts like the motherboard. But free windows 10 and saving 100 bucks is also tempting.

[tacoshy]

uhm look at my group there is a guide how to get Windows cheap or how to use it unactivated for free.

Prebuilds often save money by using china rip offs as much as they can and only having 1-2 quality parts.

Edit: makes usre to buy 2 RAM sticks of the same model to use dual channel which is a free performance boost.

[Omega]

Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

Omega eredeti hozzászólása:

- Do not bother with SLI or Crossfire. It usually couses a lot of issues and most games don't even support it.

That is kinda years old story. With the entering of DX 12 and GTX 1000 series GPUs and with new Driver updates, 90% of the games has support for SLI now days. With significant Performance Boost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BzoTweBPtM

Almost no games (yet) use DX12 and those that do are a buggy mess.