Gonna get a new pc

[Heavy Looksmaxxing]

what do you guys think?
Can it run most modern games?^

Intel Pentium G4560 3.5 Ghz
H110 DDR4 MOBO
Zotac GT 1030 2GB
8GB DDR4 HyperX Fury
1TB HDD(Probably going to add an SSD - 128 GB)
Corsair VS400 400W PSU

and for Mouse/Keyboard:
Common Microsoft M / K

And i'm thinking about adding an extra 8GBs of Memory to it...


* Going to get more ram now leave it at 16GBs
** My Pc is lower priced than a 1070 :/

[Keljai]

It's all about meeting your budget but in the same time best bang for your bucks, meaning if for example you can get a "massive" extra in performance like the comparison between 1030 and gtx 1050ti for a minimal extra investement.

I have no clue about your prices over there, the best would be to list your possible choices. As far as it goes for the gpu, a good GTX 960 off ebay will do the job, close to a 1050Ti and for much less buckerinos. New PC should not mean brand new parts especially when tight on on a budget.

A RX 460 is quite close to a GTX 950. GTX 960 does a bit better. Either way it does the job.

As for the CPU a G4560 does plenty, unless in CPU intensive games like Arma 3, very most of current games will be more than fine with it since relying more on GPU. Not to mention rare are the games making proper use of Hyperthreading and multiple cores still putting the strain on first core. So no need for a super fancy CPU to game.

You could go for a Ryzen like advised but even though its price its really good for gaming.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Gan の投稿を引用：

It's all about meeting your budget but in the same time best bang for your bucks, meaning if for example you can get a "massive" extra in performance like the comparison between 1030 and gtx 1050ti for a minimal extra investement.

I have no clue about your prices over there, the best would be to list your possible choices. As far as it goes for the gpu, a good GTX 960 off ebay will do the job, close to a 1050Ti and for much less buckerinos. New PC should not mean brand new parts especially when tight on on a budget.

A RX 460 is quite close to a GTX 950. GTX 960 does a bit better. Either way it does the job.

As for the CPU a G4560 does plenty, unless in CPU intensive games like Arma 3, very most of current games will be more than fine with it since relying more on GPU. Not to mention rare are the games making proper use of Hyperthreading and multiple cores still putting the strain on first core. So no need for a super fancy CPU to game.

You could go for a Ryzen like advised but even though its price its really good for gaming.

The GTX 1050Ti cost twice as much for upwards 2.5 times the performance.

The RX 460 however cost 25% more for also about 2 times the performance.

Personally I kinda want to view everything relative the cost of the PC as a whole not just relative that single component and if one look at it as such all upgrades become easier to justify but it also result in close to the very best for a very high price ..

Something like the GTX 760 and such isn't all that terrible either I guess, but the question is how much cheaper it become and for something like the i5 2500K maybe he'd even have to pay more than for the new stuff. And if nothing else the new stuff is _NEW_, meaning stuff like capacitors and such are new and as such maybe it will hold up longer. Which may matter.

Personally I have a bad AMD Phenom X4 9850 + HD 6950 which is worse than the G4560 + RX 460 would be but with everything on low I could play Doom in 1680x1050 at 30ish/30+ish FPS. I can play Overwatch pretty fine. I don't think CS:GO is fine on my machine but it would likely be acceptable on G4560, I can kinda play Paladins and if desperate Quake Champions too but the G4560 would do all of those better anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNNRgtSo3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJluxCnzb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiGt6fVij4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljawK9GZMPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAUbIFyPxgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_NIjs8w9rg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNEmStO-mQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUeEceHHaKk

It's not perfect but lots of stuff will run and still be fun. And in some of those videos they may not run at lowest settings and the streaming may use up additional resources.

[Gen X]

What are the crappy EVGAs rebadged from?

[Keljai]

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism の投稿を引用：

The GTX 1050Ti cost twice as much for upwards 2.5 times the performance.

The RX 460 however cost 25% more for also about 2 times the performance.

Personally I kinda want to view everything relative the cost of the PC as a whole not just relative that single component and if one look at it as such all upgrades become easier to justify but it also result in close to the very best for a very high price ..

Something like the GTX 760 and such isn't all that terrible either I guess, but the question is how much cheaper it become and for something like the i5 2500K maybe he'd even have to pay more than for the new stuff. And if nothing else the new stuff is _NEW_, meaning stuff like capacitors and such are new and as such maybe it will hold up longer. Which may matter.

Personally I have a bad AMD Phenom X4 9850 + HD 6950 which is worse than the G4560 + RX 460 would be but with everything on low I could play Doom in 1680x1050 at 30ish/30+ish FPS. I can play Overwatch pretty fine. I don't think CS:GO is fine on my machine but it would likely be acceptable on G4560, I can kinda play Paladins and if desperate Quake Champions too but the G4560 would do all of those better anyway.

It's not perfect but lots of stuff will run and still be fun. And in some of those videos they may not run at lowest settings and the streaming may use up additional resources.

Yeah, thats why i consider its all about his budget and what he aims for. Thats why i would advise off hand Ebay older gpus being cheaper, yet might not last "10 years" but will do for a while if you do not step on a fraud, depending on how much it was used, a lot are still in excellent shape or barely used. It depends on the offer i assume. They are all valid choices for your budget.

They're all above your 1030. A 1050 Ti being the best choice regarding the range of performances and price, GTX 950/960 or even an old GTX 770 or a R9 280X which are still about as good as 1050Ti in term of performances will do.

Everything was said on this topic, then break it down to how much you're willing to pay, considering performances, prices, state/usage and availibility as your parameters.

For the CPU a G4560, for its price, is an absolute piece of gold for 95% of games being not that far from any fancy i7 since games are for the vast majority (While clearly not a match to an high end i7/5), GPU intensive. Its made for tight budget and you will not regret it.

Get new parts if you can but if you really have a super tight budget, buying decent parts off eBay is an option often ignored, a shame while it is full of pretty nice deals. And know that for games, 95% will rely more on GPU so you could last a long while with this CPU and just upgrade the GPU.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

I think the RX 460 at the price point it was is better than the GTX 1050Ti (for performance / dollar.)
Slightly worse than a GTX 960 in performance I guess.

[Keljai]

Sadly yeah agreed. Its a tad under a 1050Ti but much cheaper. You wont play HD ultra with but it should fullfill its tasks. He has the options, now to choose.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Supposedly 2 GB VRAM is becoming too little for high quality textures in some titles, on the other hand from looking at benchmarks all the time there's been graphics cards with less and more VRAM the in game performance difference has been very small vs the two versions though the card with more VRAM may cost quite a bit more. Of course it's nice to have when needed though.

Just throwing that in there, if I were on tight budget I'll likely get the one with the lower VRAM amount anyway I guess.

960 SEK for RX 460 2 GB
1183 SEK for RX 460 4 GB
1299 SEK for RX 560 4 GB

1249 SEK for GTX 1050 2 GB
1449 SEK for GTX 1050Ti 4 GB

Maybe it could be worth 200 more. Don't know. But it's far from GTX 1030 price with ~1200 (more than 50% up so ..)

B250 + G4560 + 2x4 GB 2400 MHz DDR4, RX 460, no chance of getting used case, PSU and HDDs? Guess people may not have those just lying around.

On Ebay and such there exist cheap used Dell i3 and i5 machines which may be able to fit the graphics card, that would also be fine but I don't know how importing such to Brazil works if that would be required, likely not worth shipping those around. Maybe they can be had in Brazil?
Risk factor is if the graphics card wouldn't work or fit in it.

[bigdaddy64]

I can run bf1 perfrctly so 1050 ti is a great choice it runs any game 60+

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ の投稿を引用：

that's kabylake.. u should grab a b250 board.
Run yes, but also depends on the games u wanna play.
*also scratch the 1030, grab atleast a gtx 1050 ti.

[Keljai]

Yeah 2 Gb VRAM has become very low especially with textures in games being of highier quality HD etc that use a huge chunk of it. To meet the context here which is to get a certain level of playability for a minimum price, 2Gb would do with sacrifices otherwise yeah 4Gb at least is almost mendatory now.

Off hand Dells are also decent choices with sometimes excellent parts, which also why this option can be great to get cheap home server blades for instance. Companies renewing their devices, eBay and alikes are quite flooded with. Pretty tight, might fit the gpu, i'm not sure. Have to check for the said case.

Although yeah, being in Brazil, no clue, i think the choice is minimal not to mention if he is willing to buy from people online.

Mr popsticle man の投稿を引用：

I can run bf1 perfrctly so 1050 ti is a great choice it runs any game 60+

⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ の投稿を引用：

that's kabylake.. u should grab a b250 board.
Run yes, but also depends on the games u wanna play.
*also scratch the 1030, grab atleast a gtx 1050 ti.

It indeed is a great choice, BF1 is a quite well optimized game, a 1050Ti will run lot of games at around 60 fps but not all without few sacrifices in settings (Witcher, Wildlands etc..).

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Going from Ultra to normal/medium graphics isn't all that much of a sacrifice though.

Ultra 4K is good for seeing what the graphics card can handle and something like low 720p is good to see what the processor can handle but that doesn't mean either is the optimum choice for most =P

[Wakobi Junior]

Being honest, Modern games? You will be struggling to hit 60fps, atleast get a 1060 and a quad core processor.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

papa pen の投稿を引用：

Being honest, Modern games? You will be struggling to hit 60fps, atleast get a 1060 and a quad core processor.

He's got a budget and a G4560 + RX 460 beats the crap I've got and I can play some games.

I guess "modern" games doesn't have to be it either. If one are low on funds and intent to buy games then older titles are cheaper.

[Wakobi Junior]

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism の投稿を引用：

papa pen の投稿を引用：

Being honest, Modern games? You will be struggling to hit 60fps, atleast get a 1060 and a quad core processor.

He's got a budget and a G4560 + RX 460 beats the crap I've got and I can play some games.

I guess "modern" games doesn't have to be it either. If one are low on funds and intent to buy games then older titles are cheaper.

I'm referring to triple AAA games, how's your performance? Just curious

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

papa pen の投稿を引用：

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism の投稿を引用：

He's got a budget and a G4560 + RX 460 beats the crap I've got and I can play some games.

I guess "modern" games doesn't have to be it either. If one are low on funds and intent to buy games then older titles are cheaper.

I'm referring to triple AAA games, how's your performance? Just curious

My performance is trash.
I guess it would be OK for stuff like painkiller And Deponia, is for terrarium, starcraft in singleplayer and hots on noob level I guess. Torchlight II work too.

CS go on Austria map is around 50 FPS so pretty terrible. In... whatever, swedish hostage map I have nice FPS.

[Wakobi Junior]

Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism の投稿を引用：

papa pen の投稿を引用：

I'm referring to triple AAA games, how's your performance? Just curious

My performance is trash.
I guess it would be OK for stuff like painkiller And Deponia, is for terrarium, starcraft in singleplayer and hots on noob level I guess. Torchlight II work too.

CS go on Austria map is around 50 FPS so pretty terrible. In... whatever, swedish hostage map I have nice FPS.

Yes you should start saving up for an upgrade