Best PC monitor or preferably TV for my gaming?

[LucidNightmare]

Hello, all. I've recently bought a gaming PC. I've been a console player since the N64. I've played some Bethesda games and a little of the PC games my underpowered laptop can actually manage to run. Now, my question is this. Is there a TV that I can buy that will help me play my games with as little lag and as much of a good picture that I can juice out on my new PC? If not a TV, I may be persuaded (with enough info and stats) to go with a smaller but less expensive and better for PC gaming monitor. That's what I'm asking all of you for. I want more than just my opinion. Personally I'd just stick with my 55" Samsung 1080p TV. But I do know there are possibly better options. So, let the discussion commence.

[LucidNightmare]

I'd like to spend it smart if possible. And the gaming rig was what I chose that could run games that I've mentioned at high FPS and texture quality. I saved up for a while to actually get something I thought was good. Where did I spend wrong? :/
Edit: without building it myself because with the hours I work, I would literally never have the patience or the time. I only get two days off and they're spread out so much that I basically only get to sleep on my days off. :/

[tacoshy]

Revelene の投稿を引用：

If latency is a concern, then forget about a TV.

What is your budget?

depends on the TV. My TV has less then 3ms latency in gaming mode. If you talk about old TV's that still calculates pictures to put in between or trying to enhance them, well then yes.

I bought a Samsung 4K 43" screen because at this time it was way cheaper and I needed a TV anyway. Doing great with it. so far.

[[3rd] PizzaPunx]

I am a big fan of OLED, there are almost no OLED gaming monitors. The entry level LG 55 inch 4K OLED B7 blows away most PC monitors in my opinion with the exception of response time/input lag. 3rd party websites which have tested it get around 20ms (30ms on the older B6 model). If you want Gsync or Freesync with single digit ms times, then go with a monitor, or wait until next year when HDMI 2.1 comes out. Otherwise, go with the OLED if 20-30ms timing does not bother you. You can find it for under 2 grand, and I suspect under 1500 on promo for Amazon Prime Day, BlackFriday, or CyberMonday.

[tacoshy]

OLED cant keep up with IPS espacially with HDR and IPS doesnt have the problem of burning in pictures.

[Big Boom Boom]

TomEFFENJones の投稿を引用：

I'd like to spend it smart if possible. And the gaming rig was what I chose that could run games that I've mentioned at high FPS and texture quality. I saved up for a while to actually get something I thought was good. Where did I spend wrong? :/
Edit: without building it myself because with the hours I work, I would literally never have the patience or the time. I only get two days off and they're spread out so much that I basically only get to sleep on my days off. :/

Despite what crazy people claim, quad core i7-7700k is plenty for your gaming (it's still the best gaming CPU beating a crazily overclocked 5.0 Ghz i9-7900X) and for your multitasking. You could have saved some money there.

If you want to spend it smart, buy a Crossover 34". Wait for Vega performance, it at least beats the GTX 1070. Grab a pair of those on release and enjoy your FreeSynce WQHD 95Hz (overclockable too). GTX 1070 resale value is very high right now, so you might actually spend <$300 for the whole deal and still come out with an IPS WQHD Monitor with high refresh rate AND FreeSync. Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF-lOrw6iL8

If you just want to blow money, buy Acer Predator X34. It works perfect with GTX 1070 thanks to Gsync. It's also curved if you're into that.

[-=SOF=-WID99]

origin PC ? LOL the CEO follows my twitter

ask him

https://twitter.com/ORIGINPCCEO
i am sure he will help ya out since ya already bought one of his products

[knighttime]

i never heard of origin pc any good or no? i dont wanna buy one just wondering that is all. and is op origin gaming pc prebuild or custom build?

[-=SOF=-WID99]

they had a decent showing when i was in LA @ E 3 .. again ask the CEO i gave ya his twitter ..if ya own one of their products i am positive they can help the OP out

they do make decent systems
https://www.originpc.com/?gclid=CMqYiPnf_9QCFUdYDQodE8oEYw

[⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧]

knighttime の投稿を引用：

i never heard of origin pc any good or no? i would never buy one im just wondering

back in the days, my first workstation was from origin, it's a good but rly pricey company...
Origin also equips few gaming studios.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Big Boom Boom の投稿を引用：

Despite what crazy people claim,

if you wanna claim somethig other than that you better show some proofs. No one is arguing the fact that an i7 7700k is best gaming CPU. but that does not means that the other CPUs are bad. and in my opinion i7 7700X is a better choice than i7 7700k. because it has almost same performance but with more cores. Best of both worlds.

[Big Boom Boom]

Cloud Boy の投稿を引用：

Big Boom Boom の投稿を引用：

Despite what crazy people claim,

if you wanna claim somethig other than that you better show some proofs. No one is arguing the fact that an i7 7700k is best gaming CPU. but that does not means that the other CPUs are bad. and in my opinion i7 7700X is a better choice than i7 7700k. because it has almost same performance but with more cores. Best of both worlds.

And more money. X299 and i7-7800x is already $200 more compared to z270 and i7-7700k. Money grow on trees for you boys? We are not suddenly all content creators. I'm a qualified accountant btw, I'm not suddenly content creator.

[hawkeye]

I priced a 7700k system (parts only) and it came out $1000 cheaper than what OP probably paid.
- part of that is for overclocking extras and thermal paste application. Couple a hundred bucks for 2 minutes work. Push this button, push that button, whack on some thermal paste.
- part is water cooling. It's unecessary for a 7700k.
- part is sli FE 1070's. (There is another post running at the moment with a guy complaining that his games aren't sli compatible. The only reason why you'd go sli 1070's is if you already had one.)
- part is socket 2066.

As I said earlier the cpu doesn't matter because it will be limited by the gpu. I run an i7-2600 and aorus extreme edition 1080ti. Playing Witcher 3 I get 75fps at 4K in Novigrad (if it isn't raining) and 65 fps outdoors. The cpu averages 50% usage, all cores in use. Digital Foundry with an i7-6700k and vanilla 1080ti get 65fps in Novigrad. 2600 or 6700k - almost identical results because the 1080ti runs at 99% usage and is the limiting factor.

For a new purchase I'd get a 7700k or 7740x because of the single-thread performance and over-clockability. The 7700k is a better buy for gaming as it costs a lot less when mobo and cooling are factored in.

Why a 4-core and not a 6-core? Because I play Skyrim LE heavily modded. Skyrim LE is single-thread speed dependent. It won't use more than 1 core. For a 6-core to beat a 4-core the game has to have more than 4 main threads. Not a lot do.

Memory - ddr-3200 is the way to go due to memory scaling benefits. Impact is greater at high-resolutions..

Cooling - I run a croppy $20 gammamaxx 300 for my i7-2600 which runs permanently at 4.3GHz. Stock is 3.4GHz. The top core temp it has reached is 73C. If I reduce the overclock it never breaks 50C.

Power consumption is low, about 300W according to the psu's usb link.

Not many people realise that an old i7-2xxx or an i7-3xxx and a brand-name 1080ti will get you a system for less than $1000 that will play most games well at 4K. My crappy non-k i7-2600/1080ti/ddr3-1600 is in the 90th percentile of benchmarked pc's. It'll get 130fps on Witcher 3 at 1080p. Gpu only hits 85% for some reason, cpu 60%.

I reckon that the reason why you won't see many cpu % loads displayed on youtube benchmarks because they are all getting a bung from cpu vendors to keep shtum. When ryzen came out there was an outcry from pc noobs complaining that they weren't testing the cpu's properly because the % loads were so low and all they were testing were the gpu's. To a large extent they were right.

I have not tested any of the latest shooters or rts's, so their performance may differ completely.

[Zireth]

A GTX 1070, is great pared with a 1080p 144hz monitor or a 1440p monitor.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

hawkeye の投稿を引用：

As I said earlier the cpu doesn't matter because it will be limited by the gpu. I run an i7-2600 and aorus extreme edition 1080ti. Playing Witcher 3 I get 75fps at 4K in Novigrad (if it isn't raining) and 65 fps outdoors. The cpu averages 50% usage, all cores in use. Digital Foundry with an i7-6700k and vanilla 1080ti get 65fps in Novigrad. 2600 or 6600k - almost identical results because the 1080ti runs at 99% usage and is the limiting factor.

you can't measure universal gaming experience just by playing one single game. Different games are made differently using various game engine. An example like ''Arma 3'' is more CPU dependent game than GPU, if you play Arma 3 you will notice that the CPU is the bottlenecking factor, not the GPU. Another CPU demanding game is Battlefield 1, it uses 100% of an i5 6600 when paired with GTX 1060. Meaning if you paired with a GTX 1070, at least an i7 CPU will be needed to avoid CPU bottlenecking. let alone GTX1080 and 1080TI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ8AXDzJix0

hawkeye の投稿を引用：

Why a 4-core and not a 6-core? Because I play Skyrim LE heavily modded. Skyrim LE is single-thread speed dependent. It won't use more than 1 core. For a 6-core to beat a 4-core the game has to have more than 4 main threads. Not a lot do.

If you only play games, then a 4 core CPU is enough, but if you do some multitasking, such as Streaming gameplay ( which many people do now days), or run many applications at the same time / or do some 3D rendering, then at least a 6 Core CPU is needed, better at 8 Core. So buying a More core CPU is not a waste of money, it's a necessity. it dependins on which purpose the PC is being used for.

[Big Boom Boom]

Read the OP. He does not stream, he does not render. Just stop.

Also 6+ cores PC has nothing over quad core i7 in Arma 3 or BF1. Especially Arma 3. Ryzen 7 loses big time on Arma 3, so is i7-6950X OC to 4.5Ghz. The new core X doesn't change that

You should just stop and listen to your accountant on how to spend your money.