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Sure the i5 6400 is four real cores, but for many (not all) games the i3 6100 is a great idea and highly upgradable.
The other game I'll have to check...
This is APPROXIMATE system requirements of Escape from Tarkov.
During tests game will be optimized, so by the release system requirements may change, but not that much.
If you have system which is lower than listed requirements, it doesn't mean that the game won't work.
And again, this is just approximate system requirements.
MINIMAL:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64 Bit)
Processor:dual-core processor 2.4 GHz (Intel Core 2 Duo, i3), 2.6 GHz (AMD Athlon, Phenom II)
RAM: 6 GB
Graphics Card: DX9 compatible graphics card with 1 GB memory
Sound: DirectX compatible audio card
Network: permanent connection to the Internet
Disk space: from 8 GB
RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64 Bit)
Processor: quad-core processor 3.2 GHz (Intel i5, i7), от 3.6 GHz (AMD FX, Athlon)
RAM: from 8 GB
Graphics Card: DX11 compatible graphics card with 2 GB or more of memory
Sound: DirectX compatible audio card
Network: permanent connection to the Internet
Disk space: from 8 GB
There's a G4620 too but it cost a bit more.
Both the G-processors may lack AVX instructions though. I don't know how important that is.
The older G-processors didn't had hyper-threading support but these new ones does which make them pretty close to i3s but .. as said it seem like they may lack AVX instructions support.
The new i3 would be the 7300. I don't know how it's priced against the 6100.
In general when it comes to the i3 6300 and the new 7350K I think you're better of just getting an i5 like the 6400 or better yet 6500 if you're going in that direction.
I've seen G4560 + GTX 1060 6 GB running Battlefield 1 at around 80 FPS so that seem pretty nice and pretty capable. There's some games which are heavy on the processor like ARK, Rust, Arma 3 and so on and maybe there you'd become disappointed.
AMD Ryzen likely launch at least on the 3rd March since supposedly they will be part of some show which ends then and for that they have used the wording "recently released" suggesting it should already have been released before then. Ryzen processor cores will be more competitive / comparable with Intel ones than the old FX cores but we don't know price or exact release date.
PS4 Pro is supposed to be like a lower clocked RX 480 right? So close to GTX 1060 performance but with the checkerboard rendering usage, possibly more FP16 / half-precision rendering and general optimization for being a console.
To build an i3 + GTX 1060/RX 480 build I guess isn't totally bad but they are close to the 980 before which was a premium card and I would had thought back then that a non-HT G-processor made more sense with say the 750Ti and the 950 and 960 with the i3 or so, possibly 970.
I don't know what graphics card you're going after but if it's supposed to be able to keep up with the PS4 Pro whatsoever RX 480 or GTX 1060 it is. At-least. And maybe then you're being a bit cheap on yourself if you took something like the i3 6100 instead of the i5 6400? You can save some money by getting a H110 or B150 motherboard as said. Similarily if you were thinking of the i5 6600K with Z-motherboard and cooler you can for just a little bit more get the i7 6700 non-K with H-motherboard and the included cooler. I won't say either option is better than the other but I'll mention that you could.
So there you have my opinion. If going cheap maybe get the G4560 and H110/B150 motherboard and some cheaper graphics card (950? Or maybe 1050Ti is the best value.)
If you go with RX 480 or GTX 1060 then maybe get an i5 6400 instead?
Or if it ends up taking long enough so we get more details about AMD Ryzen see what that end up delivering and if that offer a sweeter deal or not. Like if they could sell an quad-core for i3 price then maybe that could be something for you?
But the i3 isn't that bad. It run many things well.
I have a very bad AMD Phenom X4 9850 and there's lots that can't handle in a way which feel nice. There's also titles it can handle but .. Yeah. With an i3 though I would feel many titles ran good but understand that there are some where it doesn't run it as well as you'd want.
As for graphics vs CPU with graphics you can usually scale the complexity and the requirements with the graphics settings but with CPU there's less you can do with a specific game title so what you get in performance is kinda what you get there..
This is a $75 CPU ...
(Oh, 50 FPS in multiplayer.. That may not cut it?)
This is a different setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jy8NZrA13k
But a few more frames there with i3 6100.
Bit better with the i5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy3S2hWXD_E
Very little better with i7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAsYbKkkQaI
I don't know how correct those videos are for comparision.
30-40 FPS with G4560 in GTA V:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-elZ5uGUMA
.. that's not really acceptable. Or is it?
You get closer to 60 with the i5 6400:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgDszLnr3Sc
The 6500 is clocked 500 MHz higher.
By now though you likely should get the 7-models instead? The price difference I think is around $20 but they are also clocked a bit higher. You decide. Maybe with an old motherboard with updated BIOS for support if necessary to save some money there. I don't know if the motherboards can be upgraded with an USB stick and just a new processor or not. I also don't know if they are already sold with BIOS versions which support Kaby-lake or not.
Old Pentium G: Two cores.
Newest G-line: Two cores, hyper-threading (four threads), no AVX instructions?
AVX = Advanced Vector Extensions. I don't really know how much they are used so I can't comment on how important they are.
i3 desktop processors = Two cores, hyper-threading.
i5 desktop processors = Four cores.
i7 desktop processors = Atleast four cores, hyper-threading.
K = overclockable.
i3/i5/i7 6XXX = Skylake, socket 1151, for H110, B150 or Z170 chipset.
i3/i5/i7 7XXX = Kabylake, socket 1151, old motherboards BIOS upgrade or the new Z270 motherboards.
H-motherboard = Two memory sockets (get 2x8 GB straight ahead?), only PCI-express 2.0 for the expansion slots beyond the graphics card, fewer USB and SATA connections.
B-motherboard = Four memory sockets, PCI-express 3.0, more ports.
Z-motherboard = Let you overclock a K-CPU.
More expensive Z gaming motherboards = Have a PLX chip which split the PCI-express lanes for graphics cards so you can use multiple graphics cards. But this isn't a feature many use and it make them much more expensive so don't spend that.
X-motherboard = For the entusiast 2011-3 platform. These support more PCI-express lanes from the beginning. Better for 3-4 graphics cards.
GTX 750Ti = Lowest acceptable gaming card?
RX 460 / GTX 950 / GTX 1050 / GTX 1050Ti graphics cards = E-sport friendly graphics cards. Good enough for many of the most played titles but not for the shiniest stuff.
RX 470, RX 480, GTX 1060 = Previous high-end. Good enough cards for 60 FPS Ultra 1080p gaming in most cases. At-least the later. RX 470 a bit weaker.
3/4 or 6/8 GB of VRAM? More VRAM let you have more detailed textures and graphics. If it's not required it's not. If it is then it's beneficial. Many games run almost the same on both versions. Some maybe not.
GTX 1070, GTX 1080 = AMD have no cards of this performance right now.
Nvidia cards = Support PhysX which give "better" physics emulation maybe with more rocks or smoke or whatever. Can be done on CPU too and isn't all that much to care for. Support "HairWorks" which uses massive tesselation something AMD was good at before but Nvidia is better at now which make it so that with HairWorks on the Nvidia cards handle it better and run better. HairWorks give realistic fur and hair but even scaled down it looks good so not really needed either. ShadowPlay is simplistic game video streaming from the drivers; both brands support video encoding on the GPU so shouldn't matter too much.
G-sync, an Nvidia exlusive adaptable synchronization of the monitor to the frame output of the GPU; very relevant to be the same as the monitor if you get one with that feature. G-sync is more expensive than FreeSync from AMD though.
Ansel is a feature you only can get from Nvidia right now. In few titles so far it will allow you to move the camera in the came to take a screenshot from a different angle. Also you can ge the scene rendered in a much higher resolution or store a 360 picture of the game scene to show in VR.
AMD cards = The older lines supported 10 bit color (I think) something only the latest Nvidia cards support. Much hype before about being able handle asynchronous compute better and hence hyped by some for DX12 and Vulkan and seen as more feature-proof and better there but in reality and current games it doesn't seem like it really holds up and DX11 often run the game faster!
Uses FreeSync instead of G-sync which is based on an open standard called VESA Adaptive-Sync which make FreeSync monitors cheaper. Latest versions have some software for streaming gaming too but you'll miss out on Ansel if you care about that.
Soon to be releases graphics cards:
GTX 1080Ti and AMD Vega 10 their higher performing line.
Soon to be released processors:
AMD Ryzen (which use AM4 socket motherboards.)
8 GB of RAM = Enough for lots of games.
16 GB of RAM = Some games prefer this. If you get a cheap motherboard with just 2 slots I'd say go for 16 GB directly.
SSD = Handle loads and writes from many places faster than a HDD, games usually don't do this during levels so the advantage mostly becomes faster boot and game loading times.
HDD = Give you more storage for the money.
ATX = The standard motherboard size. Usually have 4 memory slots and lots of expansion slots.
Micro-ATX = 4 memory slots and room for two graphics cards / 4 expansions slots in total. good enough.
mini-ITX = 2 memory slots and just room for one graphics card. Used for small builds.
Large cases usually fit smaller motherboards. Smaller cases however will not fit a larger motherboard and may also not fit the length of a PSU or graphics card or the height of a CPU cooler.
PSU = Power supply unit. 80plus = 80+ or better efficiency at 110 volt under whatever loads.
80+ gold supples are more efficient and usually have better capacitors and warranty. EVGA G2, G3, Corsair RMx and so on are a few good models. But more expensive ones. EVGA B or so is cheaper but you kinda get what you pay for.
Good luck :)
https://www.google.se/search?q=pci+express+power&rlz=1C1PRFE_enSE704SE704&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIlaSNwsjRAhVLCiwKHevIB7gQ_AUICCgB&biw=1527&bih=814
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDwxVY
This won't really beat a PS4 Pro either. At best it will keep up.
This is your price-range though in this case one have filled up both memory slots but it become cheaper this way:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RV4xVY
Can't really go i3 or GTX 1060 at that price-point with all those components.
Don't know if 250 GB SSD would be better for you?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TtCNBP
Some items may not be optional. I'm not American and just put it together in a hurry.
Say if you already owned a PC and could ignore all that for ... $580 you could had gotten:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzvP7h
Here you go, $455:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DW9VLD
So a whole computer you get G4560 + GTX 1050Ti + 8 GB + motherboard.
+ case, PSU and 2 TB HDD or 250 GB SSD.
If you already own the later you can instead get i5 6500 + RX 470 + same 8 GB + motherboard.