AMD Ryzen

[wah007]

Continued from the "AMD new horizon event" thread.

Please discuss and post any new information here regarding the upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs and AM4 motherboards.

Thanks

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

it is called media creation tool - when it asks for key you just click the "i dont have a key" option.
You can then run unactivated until you want to buy it

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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it is called media creation tool - when it asks for key you just click the "i dont have a key" option.
You can then run unactivated until you want to buy it

And Microsoft doesn't care if people use Win10 that way either; cause all they care about is the data collection and the Microsoft Store revenue.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

the private data is way more valuable than an os

[wah007]

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Maybe free as an upgrade for people who have Windows 7 or 8 but not free if you're doing a clean install.

No, FREE, end of story... install it and done... How many times I have to say it?

Okay keep your hair on.

[Nabster]

I just installed a ryzen 1600, I forgot to look out for the plastic film on the CPU, does anyone know if the CPU had a plastic film that needs to be removed? I don't want to put out the heatsink and ruin the thermal paste if I don't have too

[BoNfiRe]

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I just installed a ryzen 1600, I forgot to look out for the plastic film on the CPU, does anyone know if the CPU had a plastic film that needs to be removed? I don't want to put out the heatsink and ruin the thermal paste if I don't have too

On the 1600X there was nothing, I assume it will be the same for all of them.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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I just installed a ryzen 1600, I forgot to look out for the plastic film on the CPU, does anyone know if the CPU had a plastic film that needs to be removed? I don't want to put out the heatsink and ruin the thermal paste if I don't have too

CPUs do not have any "film" on them; however some Heatsinks do.

But no, you're fine.
Ryzen CPUs have a bare top; and ones that do come with an AMD stock cooler, just are protected by the plastic shroud, not protective cover to remove, comes with pre-applied thermal paste.

If you look here and pause at various key moments of seeing the CPU and Heatsink, you'll see what I mean:

https://youtu.be/WFYvPAUQsFE?t=586

[GTsimms]

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I will need to do a card swap, but the EVGA SC and MSI Gaming X 1070's are OC'd at the same exact clock/memory speeds by using Afterburner. My Heaven benchmarks were on the 1700X @ TPU I 3.77GHz (EVGA 95.8) and the 7700K @ 4.5Ghz (MSI 103.2, it was around 98 with my FX-8350 maybe @ 4.0 or 4.2 OC). Settings are EVGA SC @ 109,89,+124,& +425. MSI Gaming X @ 120,89,+137,& +425. So, I will need to take the MSI out and do some testing.

Ryzen 7 mem @ 2666 and 7700k 3200

Ryzen 7 MSI 96.6 fps and 7700K EVGA 100 fps

All tests were with the OC settings above and Ryzen 7, if test was not screwed up on the FX-8350, then we should see some more optimization.

FX-8350 @ 4.2 OC Cinebench 659 (82) per core
Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.75 Cinebench 1631 (203) per core
7700K @ 4.5 OC Cinebench 1006 (251.5) per core

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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I will need to do a card swap, but the EVGA SC and MSI Gaming X 1070's are OC'd at the same exact clock/memory speeds by using Afterburner. My Heaven benchmarks were on the 1700X @ TPU I 3.77GHz (EVGA 95.8) and the 7700K @ 4.5Ghz (MSI 103.2, it was around 98 with my FX-8350 maybe @ 4.0 or 4.2 OC). Settings are EVGA SC @ 109,89,+124,& +425. MSI Gaming X @ 120,89,+137,& +425. So, I will need to take the MSI out and do some testing.

Ryzen 7 mem @ 2666 and 7700k 3200

Ryzen 7 MSI 96.6 fps and 7700K EVGA 100 fps

All tests were with the OC settings above and Ryzen 7, if test was not screwed up on the FX-8350, then we should see some more optimization.

FX-8350 @ 4.2 OC Cinebench 659 (82) per core
Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.75 Cinebench 1631 (203) per core
7700K @ 4.5 OC Cinebench 1006 (251.5) per core

If the Ryzen is running stock, then so should the 7700K, otherwise scoring is way un-balanced.

Overall the difference in RAM speed is VERY small, there is very little real world difference outside of benchmarks when comparing 2400 vs 3200 when they can actually run at these speeds. Best bang for buck right now is around 2666 with the lowest possible CAS you can find. Just be mindful of RAM chosen for Ryzen builds, they are picky still. Best bet are ones with Micron or Samsung chips on the RAM model you choose.

[GTsimms]

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Ryzen 7 mem @ 2666 and 7700k 3200

Ryzen 7 MSI 96.6 fps and 7700K EVGA 100 fps

All tests were with the OC settings above and Ryzen 7, if test was not screwed up on the FX-8350, then we should see some more optimization.

FX-8350 @ 4.2 OC Cinebench 659 (82) per core
Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.75 Cinebench 1631 (203) per core
7700K @ 4.5 OC Cinebench 1006 (251.5) per core

If the Ryzen is running stock, then so should the 7700K, otherwise scoring is way un-balanced.

Overall the difference in RAM speed is VERY small, there is very little real world difference outside of benchmarks when comparing 2400 vs 3200 when they can actually run at these speeds. Best bang for buck right now is around 2666 with the lowest possible CAS you can find. Just be mindful of RAM chosen for Ryzen builds, they are picky still. Best bet are ones with Micron or Samsung chips on the RAM model you choose.

How the 7700 is 4.2 and at the turbo oc of 4.5. The Ryzen is at 3.4 and will boost to 3.8. The Ryzen has a +100 GHz boost. But, if comparing by clocks speeds it is unbalanced anyway.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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If the Ryzen is running stock, then so should the 7700K, otherwise scoring is way un-balanced.

Overall the difference in RAM speed is VERY small, there is very little real world difference outside of benchmarks when comparing 2400 vs 3200 when they can actually run at these speeds. Best bang for buck right now is around 2666 with the lowest possible CAS you can find. Just be mindful of RAM chosen for Ryzen builds, they are picky still. Best bet are ones with Micron or Samsung chips on the RAM model you choose.

How the 7700 is 4.2 and at the turbo oc of 4.5. The Ryzen is at 3.4 and will boost to 3.8. The Ryzen has a +100 GHz boost. But, if comparing by clocks speeds it is unbalanced anyway.

Who OC's like this? Seriously...

You disable any Turbo stuff and OC it to the max allowed and leave it running at that at all times. Otherwise what's the point.

[GTsimms]

Dude, I am not going to get into an argument with you, but yeah mabye the previous post was misleading. The Ryzen 7 is at 3.77 OC and the 7700k is at 4.5 OC in Bios not boost or turbo modes.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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Dude, I am not going to get into an argument with you, but yeah mabye the previous post was misleading. The Ryzen 7 is at 3.77 OC and the 7700k is at 4.5 OC in Bios not boost or turbo modes.

Sorry, not want to make arguments either.
Just saying, the Turbo is a needless factor. You disable that and OC to what that would be, or simply OC beyond that. The turbo becomes useless when manually OC'ing

But yes, lets move on.

Good info on the scoring. Overall they are very close when you stop looking at score #s and just use these two systems (6700K or 7700K -vs- any Ryzen-7 series) and they'll run anything well you throw at them basically.

Ryzen will still have better potential as optimizations occur; as this will be on-going work.

So overall, they are fairly neck and neck.

[SHREDDER]

Only 2 days left until Prey release, first big game optimzied for ryzen. Let see then how much faster will run on ryzen 7 compared to just cores and 4 threads 7700k!

[vadim]

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Overall the difference in RAM speed is VERY small, there is very little real world difference outside of benchmarks when comparing 2400 vs 3200 when they can actually run at these speeds.

That is true for Intel, but not for AMD: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5xjmau/ryzens_data_fabric_is_locked_12_ram_speed_faster/