AMD Ryzen

[wah007]

Continued from the "AMD new horizon event" thread.

Please discuss and post any new information here regarding the upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs and AM4 motherboards.

Thanks

[GTsimms]

引用自 DarkStarClassic：

TWITCH AMD STREAM TEAM LAUNCH RYZEN 5 PLAYERUNKNOWN BATTLEGROUNDS.

https://www.twitch.tv/amd

Been watching,since about noon or 1pm today CST

[Nabster]

I am paying a few dollars over 1500x for 1600 to get 2 more cores

I plan to get the ryzen 5 1600 with gigabyte ab350 gaming 3, I reviewed the CPU support list and it said it support ryzen 5 with BIOS f6 onward, which we released 2 days ago. I am assuming the shop stock is way older than 2 days, how am I suppose to get it to update BIOS? The shop would charge me$10 to update? Surely there must be a better way.

I checked another motherboard, msi b350 tomahawk, the CPU support page doesnt specify that a certain BIOS is required, but the BIOS page state that the latest BIOS add support to ryzen 5, so looks like all motherboard has the same issue?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

引用自 MossyRathalos：

引用自 ILKA：

How powerful is the R5 1500X in relation to Intel processors?

Roughly the same in gaming to the 7500 (Better in some, worse in others), but better than most, if not all, of the i5 lineup in productivity.

I hate to repeat things or sound demaning, but how huge is the performance difference between DDR4-3000 and DDR4-3200 on Ryzen?

Does it even support 3000 MHz and not 2933 MHz instead? (Except with changed BCLK.)
3200 is one ratio which is ok for it, 3500 MHz too.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 Nabster：

I checked another motherboard, msi b350 tomahawk, the CPU support page doesnt specify that a certain BIOS is required, but the BIOS page state that the latest BIOS add support to ryzen 5, so looks like all motherboard has the same issue?

Stick to something from MSI, ASUS, AsRock...

Overall updating BIOS is fairly easy. And just because the Motherboard might not come with the latest BIOS already applied out of the box, does not mean the Board won't boot, even with an unsupported CPU model. It usually will just boot and the CPU Model is odd name that is not ID properly, due to the older BIOS revision.

Preparing for your new build:
> Determine what the build will be...
> On a working WinOS based system...
> insert 8GB minimum USB Flash Drive ready to be wiped
> run Win10 media creation tool and create your bootable WinOS installer media
> once completed, use the remaining space for Drivers/Software downloads for your new Motherboard, obtained from the official page (once you determine your build)
> as well as the latest BIOS, however for this file, download and then extract the contents to the root of the flash drive. The Motherboard manual will state what to do as far as updating. Such as inserting the flash drive into a certain usb port, then entering the bios and flashing it.

[Nabster]

引用自 Bad-Motha：

引用自 Nabster：

I checked another motherboard, msi b350 tomahawk, the CPU support page doesnt specify that a certain BIOS is required, but the BIOS page state that the latest BIOS add support to ryzen 5, so looks like all motherboard has the same issue?

Stick to something from MSI, ASUS, AsRock...

Overall updating BIOS is fairly easy. And just because the Motherboard might not come with the latest BIOS already applied out of the box, does not mean the Board won't boot, even with an unsupported CPU model. It usually will just boot and the CPU Model is odd name that is not ID properly, due to the older BIOS revision.

Preparing for your new build:
> Determine what the build will be...
> On a working WinOS based system...
> insert 8GB minimum USB Flash Drive ready to be wiped
> run Win10 media creation tool and create your bootable WinOS installer media
> once completed, use the remaining space for Drivers/Software downloads for your new Motherboard, obtained from the official page (once you determine your build)
> as well as the latest BIOS, however for this file, download and then extract the contents to the root of the flash drive. The Motherboard manual will state what to do as far as updating. Such as inserting the flash drive into a certain usb port, then entering the bios and flashing it.

Thanks for the reply, would it be better if I update the BIOS before Windows installation? Would it make a difference?

[DarkStarClassic]

引用自 GTsimms：

引用自 DarkStarClassic：

TWITCH AMD STREAM TEAM LAUNCH RYZEN 5 PLAYERUNKNOWN BATTLEGROUNDS.

https://www.twitch.tv/amd

Been watching,since about noon or 1pm today CST

Also watching and i watch also other streamers but his seems way smoother then others also looks better then most seen reviews 1600x must say this CPU looks very promising for 250$ and performance it give its CRUSHES the 7600k by large margin in most tests(several reviewesr showing this)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 Nabster：

引用自 Bad-Motha：

Stick to something from MSI, ASUS, AsRock...

Overall updating BIOS is fairly easy. And just because the Motherboard might not come with the latest BIOS already applied out of the box, does not mean the Board won't boot, even with an unsupported CPU model. It usually will just boot and the CPU Model is odd name that is not ID properly, due to the older BIOS revision.

Preparing for your new build:
> Determine what the build will be...
> On a working WinOS based system...
> insert 8GB minimum USB Flash Drive ready to be wiped
> run Win10 media creation tool and create your bootable WinOS installer media
> once completed, use the remaining space for Drivers/Software downloads for your new Motherboard, obtained from the official page (once you determine your build)
> as well as the latest BIOS, however for this file, download and then extract the contents to the root of the flash drive. The Motherboard manual will state what to do as far as updating. Such as inserting the flash drive into a certain usb port, then entering the bios and flashing it.

Thanks for the reply, would it be better if I update the BIOS before Windows installation? Would it make a difference?

Yes, do it right away after the initial power test of the board.
You don't need an OS to update the BIOS, you do that within the BIOS itself.
You just need other Windows PC to create your Win10 installer media and also put any files you might need onto that flash drive ahead of time, like the BIOS update for example.

[Mossy Snake]

So if I get a 1600X + RX 480, would it be a good idea to get a 1080p 144hz monitor or one with a less hz? Would that make a difference in my performance?

[Mossy Snake]

引用自 Membrane NAV clutter bothers me：

引用自 MossyRathalos：

So if I get a 1600X + RX 480, would it be a good idea to get a 1080p 144hz monitor or one with a less hz? Would that make a difference in my performance?

the more refresh rate the monitor has, the more FPS it can display. It won't affect performance, but you'll be pushing the FPS to the limit in a 144 hz monitor. Alternately, you can buy a FreeSync monitor

On Newegg there is a super cheap 1ms response time 144hz Freesync monitor by Acer that looks super appealing. I was asking since I've heard people say that 144hz can affect GPU performance if you're not rocking high-end hardware.

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

引用自 MossyRathalos：

So if I get a 1600X + RX 480, would it be a good idea to get a 1080p 144hz monitor or one with a less hz? Would that make a difference in my performance?

144 Hz will feel nicer to play on in all situations.
However if there's a trade-off between 60 Hz IPS/PLS/AHVA and 144 Hz TN then it depends on whatever you want better viewing angles or smoother action.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 Sapleau Animoon：

引用自 MossyRathalos：

On Newegg there is a super cheap 1ms response time 144hz Freesync monitor by Acer that looks super appealing. I was asking since I've heard people say that 144hz can affect GPU performance if you're not rocking high-end hardware.

I don't think FPS decreases if you get a higher refresh rate monitor...

FPS and Hz have no real bearing on each other.
Refresh Hz does cap the FPS you could possible see visually, sure.
But a higher Hz Display will be smoother by default, regardless of the FPS for most part, because of the overall timing, anti-ghosting, etc... that occurs.

[Mossy Snake]

引用自 BMGaming：

引用自 Sapleau Animoon：

I don't think FPS decreases if you get a higher refresh rate monitor...

FPS and Hz have no real bearing on each other.
Refresh Hz does cap the FPS you could possible see visually, sure.
But a higher Hz Display will be smoother by default, regardless of the FPS for most part, because of the overall timing, anti-ghosting, etc... that occurs.

Alright, thanks.

[SHREDDER]

引用自 GTsimms：

引用自 Saply Moon The Useless Sapling：

I actually plan on getting a B350 board, I won't OC much and i'll be using the stock cooler anyways (Wraith Spire)

You can oc up to, but wait until a few months for bios updates and stabilization https://youtu.be/XYZPrTq7ciM, but once you hit about 3.8. It would be better to have a better cooler. I think past 3.9 would be better with water cooling.

ισ 3.8 ghz safe for 24/7 use on stock cooler?

[SHREDDER]

Still no bios fix for ram speeds?

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

引用自 SHREDDER：

Still no bios fix for ram speeds?

1.0.0.4 AESEA or whatever they called it should be out but I haven't understood that as something which have really helped there. AMD mentioned some May update for memory support. What to expect eventually I don't know. I don't know how dependant such things are on VRM/PWM and such too.