AMD Ryzen

[wah007]

Continued from the "AMD new horizon event" thread.

Please discuss and post any new information here regarding the upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs and AM4 motherboards.

Thanks

[Mossy Snake]

ILKA님이 먼저 게시:

Are you sure they are releasing the R5's tommorow?

Everything they said says "April 11th", so yeah.

[GTsimms]

SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:

GTsimms님이 먼저 게시:

Mid minimum! I have looked at Newegg and Amazon, but not too impressed

I recomend you the one that i also thave the Aero cool aeroo 800., They gave it to me as a present from a PC gaming forum 2 months ago when i posted some pictures of the 11 years old pc case that i had until then. Why i had kept my pc case for so long? Because as techology advances pc compoments are becoming smaller and smaller. If they hadnt give me this new case as a present i would had still be using the 2006 case that i had till then. Aero cool 800 costs only 53 euros. See it here http://www.sega.com/14111219

Nice looking case but the Noctua NH-U14S will not fit.

Wrench님이 먼저 게시:

MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:

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Windows 10 Creators Update

https://www.google.com/amp/s/betanews.com/2017/04/10/disable-ads-windows-10-creators-update/amp/

[Mossy Snake]

SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:

GTsimms님이 먼저 게시:

Mid minimum! I have looked at Newegg and Amazon, but not too impressed

I recomend you the one that i also thave the Aero cool aeroo 800., They gave it to me as a present from a PC gaming forum 2 months ago when i posted some pictures of the 11 years old pc case that i had until then. Why i had kept my pc case for so long? Because as techology advances pc compoments are becoming smaller and smaller. If they hadnt give me this new case as a present i would had still be using the 2006 case that i had till then. Aero cool 800 costs only 53 euros. See it here http://www.sega.com/14111219

Just noticed this, but I think GPUs are becoming larger and larger. Look at the new Gigabyte, Asus, and EVGA cards to see what I mean.

[ILKA]

Wheres the R5 series, i demand to see them in the store, surely they advertise them by now :L

[Meurock460]

ILKA님이 먼저 게시:

Wheres the R5 series, i demand to see them in the store, surely they advertise them by now :L

I see some places list them, but with no price or pre-order, and other places not listing them at all. Most likely they will actually start listing them for sale tomorrow.

I'll be staying on X58 for a couple more years, but I'm still interested to see how R5 does in reviews and how they stack up against the i5 6000/7000 series.

[rSinik]

ILKA님이 먼저 게시:

Wheres the R5 series, i demand to see them in the store, surely they advertise them by now :L

Well for now at least it seems I was correct about prices. At least close.
1400X is listed as 199$ in US and it costs here ~263€.
So 1600X should be close to ~308€. Not a huge difference between 1600X and 1700X then (not to mention 1700).
However these are "demand" prices. Just like 1700X 459->388€, they will go down over the month.

[SHREDDER]

MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:

SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:

I recomend you the one that i also thave the Aero cool aeroo 800., They gave it to me as a present from a PC gaming forum 2 months ago when i posted some pictures of the 11 years old pc case that i had until then. Why i had kept my pc case for so long? Because as techology advances pc compoments are becoming smaller and smaller. If they hadnt give me this new case as a present i would had still be using the 2006 case that i had till then. Aero cool 800 costs only 53 euros. See it here http://www.sega.com/14111219

I'll send whatever forum that is a picture of my Dell E510, which is actually a year older than your old case.
I'll ask for an Inwin Tou and see if they send it.

Do you speak Greek? Because it is a Greek forum the one that i posted pictures of my case and then they decided to sent me this new one. Here are the pictures that i posted there
http://ragequit.gr/Forum/index.php/topic,6944.15.html Check reply 22
They asked me then i i had bought it or if i found it on road why i have kept it for so long ! Then 4 months later they sent me as present this new one case the aero aero cool 800. Since then i stopped using the old legacy case. And you know what? I havent found someone to sell it yet!!

[Mossy Snake]

AMD just bought a VR tech company, so maybe we'll see AMD get the edge over Nvidia in VR.
Who knows.

[GTsimms]

According to Goldman Sachs of you know what. AMD is to be sold. So, we will see how this goes, because Intel and Nvidia will fight back with high prices! What Id10t's!

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:

Etnopluralism / Aliquis님이 먼저 게시:

Back on Friday they were listed here in Sweden.

I've seen the 1400 up for pre-order on B&H, but I don't know anything about that store and it's not the chip I wanted to buy, so yeah.

In Sweden, SMT on all:
1929 kr Ryzen 5 1400, 4C, 3.2-3.4 GHz, 50 MHz XFR, Wraith Stealth
2199 kr Ryzen 5 1500X, 4C, 3.6-3.7 GHz, 100 MHz XFR, Wraith Spire
2519 kr Ryzen 5 1600, 6C, 3.4-3.6 GHz, 50 MHz XFR, Wraith Spire
2899 kr Ryzen 5 1600X, 6C, 3.6-4.0 GHz, 100 MHz XFR, no cooler
3599 kr Ryzen 7 1700, 8C, 3.0-3.7 GHz, 50 MHz XFR, Wraith Spire
3990 kr Ryzen 7 1700X, 8C, 3.4-3.8 GHz, 100MHz XFR, no cooler
5499 kr Ryzen 7 1800X, 8C, 3.6-4.0 GHz, 100 MHz XFR, no cooler

i5 7400, 4C, 3.0-3.5 GHz is 1899.
i5 7500, 4C, 3.4-3.8 GHz is 2094.
i5 7600K, 4C, 3.8-4.2 GHz is 2485.
i7 7700K, 4C, 4.2-4.5 GHz is 3590.

Doubt there's no obvious winner around 2000.
Ryzen 5 1600 vs i5 7600K? Neither comes with a cooler.
I assume they clock very similarly and with the 1600X one pay more and lose the cooler.. Not really a great deal.. But it's faster stock and doesn't require overclocking to perform well / close to the best.
1600X vs 1700, lots more money for what may very well be a worse gaming processor without overclock, include the fan though, vs the 1600 the difference is even larger though, same cooler on those two too.
1700 is cheaper than the 7700K. Not much single-core performance gained paing the extra for 1700X and one lose the cooler, higher clock on all cores though and that comes with the higher TDP and possible usage/need of a better cooler.
Looking at the clock 1700 and 1600 seem more comparable, 1000 SEK discount dropping two cores, worth it I guess.
1600X more similar to 1800X, 1600 SEK more for two more cores. Most likely not worth it for games.

Now with the X299 news I don't know.. Again. And of course the i7 7700K is better for games as we know.

1600, 1600X, 1700 or 1700X, what to choose?

I already have a NH-U12 so if one ignore the cooler then of course the 1600, 1600X or 1700X, 1600X to 1700X is just 1100 SEK and almost the same price / core. Unlikely any better performance in games but two more cores for other tasks and that's nice of course.

I assume X299 won't sell 8 core processors for 6800K prices / Ryzen 1700/1700X prices, but maybe 6 core? I assume the next mainstream 6 core may cost around the Ryzen 7 1700/i7 7700K price though.

And in 2014 I could had gotten i7 5820K + X99 for 3000 + 2000 SEK and over 1000 SEK money back ...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

They are on B&H, but not Amazon, strange:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?atclk=Brand_AMD&sts=ma&N=4291627800&Ntt=amd%20ryzen

Well B&H is quite good too; it's where I got all the 480 4GB GPUs that were able to be flash updated to unlock the full 8GB VRAM

[Der Hexer]

GTsimms님이 먼저 게시:

According to Goldman Sachs of you know what. AMD is to be sold. So, we will see how this goes, because Intel and Nvidia will fight back with high prices! What Id10t's!

a recommendation to sell AMD stocks isn't exactly the same thing as a message about AMD to be sold

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Der Hexer님이 먼저 게시:

GTsimms님이 먼저 게시:

According to Goldman Sachs of you know what. AMD is to be sold. So, we will see how this goes, because Intel and Nvidia will fight back with high prices! What Id10t's!

a recommendation to sell AMD stocks isn't exactly the same thing as a message about AMD to be sold

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=amd
Technically I think AMD is centsto the dollar from sell or almost $3.50 from it depending on where one want to draw the line. It's had a good run up from around $2 so selling at say $12 is n't the worst thing in the world .. As for the actual value of the company I don't know. Back when it cost 1/7 one could believe the company would have some value even as bankrupt. Now it's valued much higher and I have no idea whatsoever that demands of the future. While AMD has gone up so has Nvidia too, I don't know why that is either but I assume it may be some AI craze or something and that may mean that the market is larger / more valuable now than before. I don't know.

Personally I thought it was likely cheap and exciting and was waiting for market confirmation but now I have no clue but as such I would just had followed the market, so far price haven't pulled down but whenever it does who am I to argue against it? I don't know what the company is worth whatsoever :D. Anyone who followed the price movement made a lot of money and can be very happy with that.

Not financial advice, just basic technical analysis from nothing more complex than higher highs and lower lows, no occilators or magic stuff. No real market prediction, just accepting whatever happens.Whomever do whatever at their own risk and judgement.

Price may just consolidate and move up too. Shake off some non-believers.

As for Goldman Sachs at-least they want movement and transactions.

[vadim]

SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:

What wrong? That it has 6 cores while ryzen 7 has 8 cores! That why i bought ryzen 7 instead of 5 for the 8 cores. After so many years on the 4 core core i5 2500k i wanted to do a big upgrade

You wanted to do a big update and hardly do any upgrade at all because Ryzen has exactly the same single-threded performance, especially if you'd slightly overclocked your former Sandy Bridge CPU.

[SHREDDER]

MossyRathalos님이 먼저 게시:

AMD just bought a VR tech company, so maybe we'll see AMD get the edge over Nvidia in VR.
Who knows.

Αs long as amd dont has high end cards like nvidia they will not get the edge.

vadim님이 먼저 게시:

SHREDDER님이 먼저 게시:

What wrong? That it has 6 cores while ryzen 7 has 8 cores! That why i bought ryzen 7 instead of 5 for the 8 cores. After so many years on the 4 core core i5 2500k i wanted to do a big upgrade

You wanted to do a big update and hardly do any upgrade at all because Ryzen has exactly the same single-threded performance, especially if you'd slightly overclocked your former Sandy Bridge CPU.

Who cares about single thread perfomance? it is 2017 and i bought it knowing that games of the future will be make multithreadted not single thread. Single thread is the past multithread and multicores are the future.