AMD Ryzen

[wah007]

Continued from the "AMD new horizon event" thread.

Please discuss and post any new information here regarding the upcoming AMD Ryzen CPUs and AM4 motherboards.

Thanks

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Correction; these DO NOT have a bundled cooler
- 1800X
- 1700X
- 1600X

All of the rest so far do, even the 1500X

[Venlord]

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Question: Does the Ryzen 5 1600X come with a Wraith Max? I'm seeing some videos where they unbox it (not releasing benchmarks before the embargo because AMD said so) and some have Wraith Maxes while others don't.

Can someone give me a proper answer? I'm planning to buy a Ryzen 5 soon and I don't want to wait another 4 days for my CPU Cooler to arrive

I have heard that the wraith max cooler only comes in OEM builds or prebuilds. Not 100% sure if it the wraith max won't be available in retail CPUs. The 1800x/1700x cames without a cooler, my 1700 only came with the Spire.

http://techreport.com/news/31679/in-the-lab-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-and-ryzen-5-1500x-cpus

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Here are the RYZEN coolers
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11170/AMD%20Ryzen%207%20Press%20Deck-19.jpg

OEM Pre-Builds using the no bundled cooler CPUs below will get = Wraith MAX
*Unless otherwise stated. Some OEMs that allow customization on their website for choosing your build, may offer other options.

1800X, 1700X, 1600X = No Cooler for Retail Box purchased CPUs, get a quality after-market cooler. Like you'd expect to do if you were building your own system around an Intel K CPU.

1700, 1600, 1500X = Wraith Spire
1400 = Wraith Stealth

What confusion? The higher end CPUs shouldn't come with a cooler, cause that is a waste on AMD's part to which a majority of those CPU buyers would get a better cooler, which is recommended. OEM Builds are going to go that cheap route, so AMD provides those with a cooler.

[Venlord]

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Venlord eredeti hozzászólása:

I have heard that the wraith max cooler only comes in OEM builds or prebuilds. Not 100% sure if it the wraith max won't be available in retail CPUs. The 1800x/1700x cames without a cooler, my 1700 only came with the Spire.

http://techreport.com/news/31679/in-the-lab-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-and-ryzen-5-1500x-cpus

Bad-Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Correction; these DO NOT have a bundled cooler
- 1800X
- 1700X
- 1600X

All of the rest so far do, even the 1500X

Huh, now i'm confused.

I'll probably do some more research soon on people unboxing boxes which has items in it

http://imgur.com/DqljPi8

[Aliquis Freedom & Ethnopluralism]

Bad-Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

*normal screeching* eredeti hozzászólása:

Question: Does the Ryzen 5 1600X come with a Wraith Max? I'm seeing some videos where they unbox it (not releasing benchmarks before the embargo because AMD said so) and some have Wraith Maxes while others don't.

Can someone give me a proper answer? I'm planning to buy a Ryzen 5 soon and I don't want to wait another 4 days for my CPU Cooler to arrive

None of the "X" come with any Cooler bundled.

Wraith Max cooler supported TDP = 140 watt.
AM4 design for max power draw = 128 watt.
Ryzen 7 1700X and 1800X claimed TDP = 95 watt.

Wraith Spire cooler supported TDP = 95 watt.
Ryzen 7 1700 locked to max power draw off = 90 watt.
Ryzen 7 1700 claimed TDP = 65 watt.
Also for Ryzen 5 1600 and 5 1500X according to this image: https://www.pcper.com/files/imagecache/article_max_width/review/2017-03-15/ryzen5_03.png
1600X and 1600 is 95 watt TDP and 1500X and 1400 is 65 watt TDP according to: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-5-1400-cpu-oc-gaming-benchmarks-leak/

Wraith Stealth cooler supported TDP = ?
Ryzen 5 1400 claimed TDP = 65 watt.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes it was a little confusing at first. Namely because we were initially told all the Ryzen CPUs would be bundled with some cooler. Then once the reviewer packages started rolling out, it was just assumed the ones like 1800X, 1700X, 1600X did not have a cooler due to AMD wanted reviewers to OC those CPUs in their testing, so a better 3rd party tower cooler was provided, not from AMD. However most reviewers went and just threw that tower cooler aside and used something even better than that. It was not until later we learned Custom Builders would not get a bundled cooler with most of the higher end CPUs at all.

It was just odd to see, but given what we saw Intel do regarding 6th Gen and 7th Gen "K" model CPUs, it does make sense as to why.

[Mossy Snake]

The 1600 leak looks very solid. If its true, then it reaches i7-6700 territory at 2400Mhz RAM. (They reportedly didn't use the latest MB BIOS).
Take it with a grain of salt, as it may not be true.

[GTsimms]

Bad-Motha eredeti hozzászólása:

Correction; these DO NOT have a bundled cooler
- 1800X
- 1700X
- 1600X

All of the rest so far do, even the 1500X

The 1700X/1800X were supposed to come with a cooler in the multipack. I'm wondering, if a later batch or just cancelled.
https://videocardz.com/66163/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700-wraith-max-and-spire-coolers-confirmed

[Nabster]

Stupid question, I read somewhere saying ryzen motherboard is not stable. Do they mean not stable when ocing memory or CPU?

Is it stable at standard clock speed?

[Mossy Snake]

Nabster eredeti hozzászólása:

Stupid question, I read somewhere saying ryzen motherboard is not stable. Do they mean not stable when ocing memory or CPU?

Is it stable at standard clock speed?

The problem is that since the architecture is so new and the release was slightly rushed, the BIOSes have problems setting RAM to their correct speeds. There is no problem with the CPU itself besides lack of optimizations.

[Nabster]

Ok thx, should be fine for me then, I am OK if ram runs at 2133 or 2400, as long as it is stable

[Mossy Snake]

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Ok thx, should be fine for me then, I am OK if ram runs at 2133 or 2400, as long as it is stable

Ryzen benefits from faster RAM speeds, so faster RAM = Faster Chip.

Wait until the BIOSes get ironed out beforehand, unless you're impatient.

[SHREDDER]

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Ok thx, should be fine for me then, I am OK if ram runs at 2133 or 2400, as long as it is stable

no it is not ok becfause i have 3200 mhz ram and iam forced to run 2133 mhz until a bios update releases to run it on 3200 mhz.

Real the latest comment here ! http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/first-full-review-of-amd-ryzen-5-1600,3.html it says that first Ryzen with 3200 mhzm memroy review came yesterday so the bidos update for 3200 mhz must be realy close now!

[Mr Keefy]

Even with latest bios updates I can't get my ram to run above standard 2133.

[SHREDDER]

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Even with latest bios updates I can't get my ram to run above standard 2133.

Which ram do you have? We must wait.