Advise in choosing a 1440p gaming monitor

[SpeedyBulle✟]

Hey guys,
I'm planning to upgrade my old GTX 780 Ti to a GTX 1080 in the coming months and I would also like to buy a new monitor. So far I've always been gaming on 24" 1080p monitor but now I would like to switch to 1440p. 4K is ofc very tempting but i'm afraid it will be very costly to always have the top-of-the-line GPU which is needed to deliver the graphics power to such a 4K monitor. My budget for a new monitor is around € 800 ($ 896)

My attention got drawn on a 1440p monitor with low input lag, high refresh rate and Nvidia G-Sync technology with a size of around 27-28 inch.

These are the monitors that caught my eye so far:

- Asus PG279Q: https://us.hardware.info/product/323897/asus-pg279q/specifications
(27 inch, G-Sync, 4ms input lag, 165Mhz max refresh rate, AHVA panel type)

- Acer Predator XB271HUAbmiprz: https://us.hardware.info/product/349936/acer-predator-xb271huabmiprz/specifications
(27 inch, G-Sync, 1ms input lag, 144Hz max refresh rate, TN panel type)

So what do you think is better for gaming? 1ms input lag @ 144Hz refresh rate or 4ms @ 165Mhz? If you know any other great gaming monitors that I looked over i'd be happy to check them out! :)

[Chompman]

You are not going to notice the difference between 1ms and 4 ms input lag.

If you could go for a ips panel for high end monitors like that but that will mean a higher cost.

[Big Boom Boom]

The second because that's IPS. The first is TN, no IPS can get 1ms ATM, but the very good one gets 4ms gtg (grey to grey). That's not input lag btw, the best input lag is somewhere 10ms. Most monitor is high 20s and gaming monitor is around high 10s ms input lag. Low quality or professional monitor can get 30-40 ms because their primary use is not gaming.

Edit: current best input lag is 9ms.
Http:/displaylag.com/display-database/

[Kaihekoa]

For the Acer, look for the XB271HU bmiprz, that's the IPS version. Dell and Viewsonic also have 27 inch, 1440p, 144-165hz, GSYNC, IPS monitors. Any monitor that meets those specs is going to be PC gaming bliss, so any of them will work. Google some reviews and pick one. I have the Acer and love it.

[Big Boom Boom]

Also I'm fairly sure Acer monitors use AHVA which is AUO's version of IPS (LG's). AHVA is great, my monitor has AHVA panel and you can't complain about quality.

[Revelene]

Currently, I run the XB271HU, IPS model. No complaints. Here's what my setup looks like with it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=931892902

[MattyWillo10]

SpeedyBullet |AFK | Card idling の投稿を引用：

Hey guys,
I'm planning to upgrade my old GTX 780 Ti to a GTX 1080 in the coming months and I would also like to buy a new monitor. So far I've always been gaming on 24" 1080p monitor but now I would like to switch to 1440p. 4K is ofc very tempting but i'm afraid it will be very costly to always have the top-of-the-line GPU which is needed to deliver the graphics power to such a 4K monitor. My budget for a new monitor is around € 800 ($ 896)

My attention got drawn on a 1440p monitor with low input lag, high refresh rate and Nvidia G-Sync technology with a size of around 27-28 inch.

These are the monitors that caught my eye so far:

- Asus PG279Q: https://us.hardware.info/product/323897/asus-pg279q/specifications
(27 inch, G-Sync, 4ms input lag, 165Mhz max refresh rate, AHVA panel type)

- Acer Predator XB271HUAbmiprz: https://us.hardware.info/product/349936/acer-predator-xb271huabmiprz/specifications
(27 inch, G-Sync, 1ms input lag, 144Hz max refresh rate, TN panel type)

So what do you think is better for gaming? 1ms input lag @ 144Hz refresh rate or 4ms @ 165Mhz? If you know any other great gaming monitors that I looked over i'd be happy to check them out! :)

I am also looking for a good 1440p monitor and they are the two monitors I am looking at, the thing that I am contemplating is it worth spending the extra £100/£150 on a IPS screen over a TN or get the TN screen and put the £100/£150 towards going from a 1080 to a 1080 TI?

The only other gaming monitor I was taking a look at was the Acer X34 for Ultra Wide gaming but I think I have finally decided against it in favour of higher refresh rate

[SpeedyBulle✟]

Thanks for all the replies! But on PCmag.com I read that they say TN panels are still the best for gaming and not IPS panels: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2457904,00.asp

"In-Plane Switching (IPS) panels provide the best all-around color quality, strong gray-scale performance, and wide viewing angles, but they can't match the pixel response of TN panels and are subject to motion artifacts."

Chompman の投稿を引用：

You are not going to notice the difference between 1ms and 4 ms input lag.

If you could go for a ips panel for high end monitors like that but that will mean a higher cost.

So I would not notice the difference between 1ms & 4ms input lag but would I notice difference between 144Hz & 165Hz max refresh rate?

[Chompman]

SpeedyBullet |AFK | Card idling の投稿を引用：

Thanks for all the replies! But on PCmag.com I read that they say TN panels are still the best for gaming and not IPS panels: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2457904,00.asp

"In-Plane Switching (IPS) panels provide the best all-around color quality, strong gray-scale performance, and wide viewing angles, but they can't match the pixel response of TN panels and are subject to motion artifacts."

Chompman の投稿を引用：

You are not going to notice the difference between 1ms and 4 ms input lag.

If you could go for a ips panel for high end monitors like that but that will mean a higher cost.

So I would not notice the difference between 1ms & 4ms input lag but would I notice difference between 144Hz & 165Hz max refresh rate?

Well if you are only going to be getting a 1080 you probably won't be able to run either to the fullest with more modern games as you would need something like the 1080 ti to max either with medium to high graphics but again such a small gap at the high end like that will be very minor.

Going for 60hz to 100 as many monitors also use is noticeable but going from 100hz to 144 will be very minor and even less so going from 144 to 165 so don't let that be your final factor.

I would suggest you visit some brick & mortar stores to compare the difference between a tn and ips panel monitor as ips has come a long ways and again it's not really going to be that much difference for high end monitors .

If you were that serious about gaming then you wouldn't go for 1440p monitors or that large as "profession gamers" actually use smaller monitors, usually 18-22 inches. and lower resolution / graphical settings.

[Big Boom Boom]

Again, there's no 1ms or 4ms input lag monitors. That's grey to grey response time. They are totally different.

[SpeedyBulle✟]

If you were that serious about gaming then you wouldn't go for 1440p monitors or that large as "profession gamers" actually use smaller monitors, usually 18-22 inches. and lower resolution / graphical settings.

If you look at my profile you can see I'm a pretty active gamer :p I dont play any competitive games anyway I just play to have fun. But anyway i've been gaming on a 24 inch 1080p monitor since 2012 now. A larger monitor with a higher resolution should be ideal I think to get some more eye candy and still keep it affordable by not going 4K which forces me to constantly have the highest-end GPU's available.

[SpeedyBulle✟]

I came across another Asus 1440p monitor which seems to have everything i'm looking for!

It's the Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR (https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG278QR/overview/)

It's panel type is TN not IPS, it has an input lag of 1ms + 165Mhz max refresh rate + G-Sync!

[Big Boom Boom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ97Ni4Hb3c

Please, 1ms gtg response time vs 4ms gtg response time is hardly noticeable if any. Actually you would be eyeballing the difference. It is not input lag.

[Revelene]

SpeedyBullet |AFK | Card idling の投稿を引用：

I came across another Asus 1440p monitor which seems to have everything i'm looking for!

It's the Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR (https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG278QR/overview/)

It's panel type is TN not IPS, it has an input lag of 1ms + 165Mhz max refresh rate + G-Sync!

How many times do people have to tell you that the rated response time is NOT input latency time?

It is gray to gray response. Not input lag.

In fact, the overall input latency with TN and IPS is actually pretty on par, with many IPS panels pulling ahead of many TN panels. That said, with many of these higher end models, the difference in input latency is negligible at best.

[Hellcat]

SpeedyBullet |AFK | Card idling の投稿を引用：

Thanks for all the replies! But on PCmag.com I read that they say TN panels are still the best for gaming and not IPS panels: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2457904,00.asp

"In-Plane Switching (IPS) panels provide the best all-around color quality, strong gray-scale performance, and wide viewing angles, but they can't match the pixel response of TN panels and are subject to motion artifacts."

Chompman の投稿を引用：

You are not going to notice the difference between 1ms and 4 ms input lag.

If you could go for a ips panel for high end monitors like that but that will mean a higher cost.

So I would not notice the difference between 1ms & 4ms input lag but would I notice difference between 144Hz & 165Hz max refresh rate?

IPS is the way to go. These days IPS pixel transitions (the publicly stated response times) are just as fast TN with none of TN's drawbacks.

However, transitions are different than the <b> signal latency</b>. Signal latency is dependent on the display's internal hardware (independnent of whether its IPS or TN or VA) and is never a publicly released figure; it is only known through specialist reviewers like TFTCentral or DisplayLag who use special hardware to test it. As long as the total latency + transition is shorter than a single frame (16.6ms for 60 hertz, 6ms for 144 hertz) you will not notice any lag and even if its 1.5 or 2 frames is still splitting hairs.

[Kaihekoa]

EliteGamer の投稿を引用：

You don't want to buy a 1440p monitor in 2017..... 4K is much better.

You won't notice any difference between 1ms and 4ms and you won't notice much difference between 60hz and 144hz and yes I have a 60hz and 144hz monitor, so I'm not being biased here.

144hz is "insignificant" The way people say how great it is on here (mostly 144hz fanboys) are not being 100% honest. Yes, the mouse cursor in 144hz is slightly more fluid than 60hz, but in games I own, I only noticed 144hz in RE7. Then again, the 60hz monitor I have isn't a cheap 60hz monitor. It's a XB271HK G-SYNC and the fact it's alot smoother than any 60hz TV or monitor I've used before. Obviously if you compare 144hz monitor to a 60hz TV, then I will say you can see the "extra smoothness" of 144hz. My XB271HK looks like 144hz compared to my 4K 60hz TV.

When I compare my XB271HK to my VG248QE 144hz 1ms monitor, only in RE7 do I see some difference and yes, I have a 1080 Ti FTW3 and have no problem keeping 144hz at 1080p. With 4K, you got a much higher detailed better picture, which is much better than 144hz that doesn't really make the game any better because once the "WOW" factor of the 144hz runs off, you're still stuck with the ugly AA jaggy mess of the low resolution. In 4K, you don't even have to apply AA on most games and if you do, only 2x atm. I'm just being 100% honest here. I expected 144hz to be better, but like I thought, it's a total waste of money and especially considering how much they charge for those 1440p monitors. No 1440p monitor is worth a 4K price tag. Image quality is everything.

Also, when the Xbox X comes out, if you didn't listen and wasted money on one of those 1440p monitors and now you're broke as F... you will be SO upset you're no longer on the PC master race. You would have downgraded yourself to "My PC is behind consoles race" Just saying....

Please don't listen to this guy...4k is what's overrated. Not to mention you'll need a $800 1080 Ti to play games smoothly at 60 fps.