SSD lasts how loooooooong??

[Charlie]

I am a gamer (obviously because im on steam) and i game probably 4-6 hours a day. So i was wondering with an ssd how long it would last? And also the publisbers say the ssd's max read/write capacity. But how much read capacity in GB does it take to open windows or open a 30 GB game? How long before needing to copy the data to another ssd if you dont wanna lose it??

[Andrius227]

oobymach eredeti hozzászólása:

Revelene eredeti hozzászólása:

Older SSDs had a higher failure rate due to reasons other than writes. They had inherent issues on a hardware level. More modern drives are less susceptible to the same failures.

Oobymach, I understand your outlook on the matter... but have you even considered lifetimes relative to a hard disk? Even put mechanical error into your opinion? Anything else?

There are just so many factors that you seem to be overlooking and are focusing primarily on writes.

Are you completely against SSDs or something? Have a vendetta against them? Your dad was an HDD, right? Joking aside, while your point is valid.. it is narrow. Compared to a hard disk, the advantages are more than worth the cost for many users. Most users consider 5+ years to be time for an upgrade anyways. I know I won't have the same drives in my main gaming PC, regardless if they still work or not. Heck, I won't even have any of the same hardware. They'll simply get labeled as 'experimental' drives for fun, like I do with all my older hardware that I don't sell off.

I have 2 ssd's, one developed bad sectors after a year of heavy daily use so I cloned it and erased it and now it's my game drive, gets written to very little compared with the main drive where temp folders live. I am not against ssd drives by any means, just want people to know that they haven't changed the technology, they've changed the label, kind of like what intel did with kaby lake, clock the sky lake a bit higher and change the label.

Wrong. SSD's do change greatly. I have an old Samsung 840 evo which has an endurance rating of 75TBW (TBW is the only valid measurement of ssd lifespan btw). The newer Samsung 850 evo drives have the endurance of 150TBW. They literally doubled the endurance going from 840evo to 850evo.

[oobymach]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

Wrong. SSD's do change greatly. I have an old Samsung 840 evo which has an endurance rating of 75TBW (TBW is the only valid measurement of ssd lifespan btw). The newer Samsung 850 evo drives have the endurance of 150TBW. They literally doubled the endurance going from 840evo to 850evo.

*SIIIIIIIGH*

I can't believe I'm STILL trying to explain this.

A 256gb drive with a 75tbw rating is good for? 292 writes per block. That's right, you read that correctly, 292 writes.

"these blocks have endurances of 300-3,000 erase/write cycles"
http://thessdguy.com/comparing-dwpd-to-tbw/

So again, they haven't changed the technology, they've just changed the label. I'm done trying to explain this simple concept which is common knowledge.

[Andrius227]

oobymach eredeti hozzászólása:

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

Wrong. SSD's do change greatly. I have an old Samsung 840 evo which has an endurance rating of 75TBW (TBW is the only valid measurement of ssd lifespan btw). The newer Samsung 850 evo drives have the endurance of 150TBW. They literally doubled the endurance going from 840evo to 850evo.

*SIIIIIIIGH*

I can't believe I'm STILL trying to explain this.

A 256gb drive with a 75tbw rating is good for? 292 writes per block. That's right, you read that correctly, 292 writes.

"these blocks have endurances of 300-3,000 erase/write cycles"
http://thessdguy.com/comparing-dwpd-to-tbw/

So again, they haven't changed the technology, they've just changed the label. I'm done trying to explain this simple concept which is common knowledge.

Im talking 1TB 75TBW drive (840evo) vs 1TB 150TBW drive (850evo). Same capacity, improved endurance.

[oobymach]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

oobymach eredeti hozzászólása:

*SIIIIIIIGH*

I can't believe I'm STILL trying to explain this.

A 256gb drive with a 75tbw rating is good for? 292 writes per block. That's right, you read that correctly, 292 writes.

"these blocks have endurances of 300-3,000 erase/write cycles"
http://thessdguy.com/comparing-dwpd-to-tbw/

So again, they haven't changed the technology, they've just changed the label. I'm done trying to explain this simple concept which is common knowledge.

Im talking 1TB 75TBW drive (840evo) vs 1TB 150TBW drive (850evo). Same capacity, improved endurance.

No, a 1tb 75tbw drive would be utter garbage, that would be a limit of only 75 writes per block, and a 1tb 150tbw would only be 150 write cycles per block. The larger capacity doesn't increase the life cycle, it means there's a higher failure rate.

Even the 950 evo only sports TBW 256GB: 200 TB, 200tb on a 256gb drive is only 781 write cycles which again is utter garbage compared with the competition. They're just re-hashing really old tech in a new package with a new label.

[Andrius227]

oobymach eredeti hozzászólása:

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

Im talking 1TB 75TBW drive (840evo) vs 1TB 150TBW drive (850evo). Same capacity, improved endurance.

No, a 1tb 75tbw drive would be utter garbage, that would be a limit of only 75 writes per block, and a 1tb 150tbw would only be 150 write cycles per block. The larger capacity doesn't increase the life cycle, it means there's a higher failure rate.

Even the 950 evo only sports TBW 256GB: 200 TB, 200tb on a 256gb drive is only 781 write cycles which again is utter garbage compared with the competition. They're just re-hashing really old tech in a new package with a new label.

Stop with your 'write cycles' bs. Even 75TBW is ok for a 1TB drive. I have one myself. Used it as my main OS and gaming drive for 2 years and 2 months before switching it to a steam only drive. In that time i only used up 32TB, which is less than half of its TBW. 75TBW is enough for ~5 years.

I now use a Samsung 850evo 1TB as my OS drive which has 150TBW, it will literally last me a decade.

[oobymach]

Andrius227 eredeti hozzászólása:

Stop with your 'write cycles' bs. Even 75TBW is ok for a 1TB drive. I have one myself. Used it as my main OS and gaming drive for 2 years and 2 months before switching it to a steam only drive. In that time i only used up 32TB, which is less than half of its TBW. 75TBW is enough for ~5 years.

I now use a Samsung 850evo 1TB as my OS drive which has 150TBW, it will literally last me a decade.

Looks to me like samsung pulled the wool over your eyes. If you still don't get it you probably aren't going to any time soon, but you're wrong, so very very wrong I can't help but shake my head trying to comprehend the limited intelligence you have. Good night.

[Charlie]

How long should i wait before copying the data on an ssd if i have everything on my ssd? Dont know which ssd i have since i game on a laptop

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Baron Von poops eredeti hozzászólása:

How long should i wait before copying the data on an ssd if i have everything on my ssd? Dont know which ssd i have since i game on a laptop

Which Laptop model? See if it has room for a 2nd drive inside. Many do.

As far as what SSD model you have, without other apps, you can simply look in Device Manager, it will list the model of drive right there.

Overall don't worry about how long it will last, any drive can fail at any time.
If data on there is important, keep multiple backups.

[Charlie]

Laptop model: GL552VW (the one without hdd and with i5 6300hq) and Its not that important data, just some videos and game data

[upcoast]

Baron Von poops eredeti hozzászólása:

Laptop model: GL552VW (the one without hdd and with i5 6300hq) and Its not that important data, just some videos and game data

HDD/SSD failure is the luck of the draw, if you have anything you don't want to loose copy it.

[rotNdude]

We've been dealing with magnetic media on hard drives for decades and the SSDs for quite a while too. I wouldn't worry about it unless you don't do backups on a regular basis. There are many failure modes for both.