CPU Overclocking Issues

[God]

To start off, here are my specs...

GPU: GTX 950
Power Supply: EVGA 500 Watt 80+ Bronze
Ram: 2 x 4 Gb Kingston HyperX Fury Ram 1600 Mhz
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo
CPU: AMD FX 6300 Black Edition Unlocked
My CPU is stable at 4.20 GHz and 1.25v on the vCore (Turbo Disabled)

BIOS Settings
CPU Clock Ratio- 21.00
Core Performance Boost- Disabled
CPB Ratio- 21.50
CPU Unlock- Disabled
Cool and Quiet- Disabled (Had issue with it Enabled)
C1E Support- Disabled
SVM- Disabled
Core Core Control- Auto
Core C6 State- Disabled
HPC Mode- Disabled
APM- Disabled

BCLK Clock Control Frenquency- Auto
CPU NorthBridge Frenquency- Auto
HT Link Frenquency- Auto

X.M.P Profile-Disabled (I did try it with the other two profiles, but that didn't help)

All power saving options including HPET is disabled in my BIOS.

So the problem with this is that when I startup all of my fans will come on and it seems like my PC is gonna turn on, but then all of the fans turn off. A few seconds later my PC will turn on again and startup as normal. I don't have any issues with it after startup and I run tests and play games no problem. I have heard that some mobos have feature that will revert it to the stock settings with this same thing happening, but I confirmed this was not happening with CPU Z (I was still running at 4.20 GHz at 1.25v vcore). Another reddit post mentioned a similar problem with their FX 8350 and turning on cool and quiet fixed it for them, but it did not for me. From what I've read this startup problem will not damage my PC, but it is still quite annoying. I've heard people on tom's hardware forums mention adjusting northbridge frequencies, but I haven't bothered with that. Could it be something else I'm missing? Any help and/or advice about my overclock is appreciated.

Note: Everything that I have read said that 4.20 GHz on my specific CPU is fine so long as my vcore doesn't go above 1.55v and I keep my CPU below 75*C. My CPU package temps settle at 54*C after running Prime95 on Blend for an hour.

FYI: I am actively changing the settings listed on this page and I am keeping them updated in this post.

[Big Boom Boom]

If you have to push 1.3v at 4.2Ghz that seems a lot. I did 4.3Ghz with stock voltage (1.2/1.25? Can't remember) with only the crap AMD stock cooler.

Do not turn cool & quiet on, that's the last thing you want as overclocking. XMP profile is for OC RAM not CPU. Disable all power saving features and maybe adjusting case fan curve.

[God]

引用自 Big Boom Boom：

If you have to push 1.3v at 4.2Ghz that seems a lot. I did 4.3Ghz with stock voltage (1.2/1.25? Can't remember) with only the crap AMD stock cooler.

Do not turn cool & quiet on, that's the last thing you want as overclocking. XMP profile is for OC RAM not CPU. Disable all power saving features and maybe adjusting case fan curve.

All of my power saving options are disabled in the BIOS. My mobo options for fancurve are also kinda weird. It's UEFI, but it has normal, disabled, and serveral different intervals numbers (.75, 1.00 1.25, etc). And for some reason I can only adjust my vcore in increments of 0.020 up and down.

I just checked and my cpu is at about 1.25v on the vcore. Is there anything else that might cause this boot problem? EDIT: I just changed the BLCK, NB, and HT Link frenquency to auto, but this did not help.

[upcoast]

Boosting vcore in small increments is normal in bios.

Edited

You should really only need to disable c1e, cool n quiet and turbo core, bump up your vcore then start jacking up the multi.

Overclocking is the luck of the draw too, nothing's guaranteed.

Ps,
""So the problem with this is that when I startup all of my fans will come on and it seems like my PC is gonna turn on, but then all of the fans turn off. A few seconds later my PC will turn on again and startup as normal""

I get ya now ^ , ya that's a freaky Gigabyte thing the same thing happens on my FX8350 / 990FXA-UD3 it's just the way they are.

[God]

引用自 upcoast：

Boosting vcore in small increments is normal in bios.

Edited

You should really only need to disable c1e, cool n quiet and turbo core, bump up your vcore then start jacking up the multi.

Overclocking is the luck of the draw too, nothing's guaranteed.

Ps,
""So the problem with this is that when I startup all of my fans will come on and it seems like my PC is gonna turn on, but then all of the fans turn off. A few seconds later my PC will turn on again and startup as normal""

I get ya now ^ , ya that's a freaky Gigabyte thing the same thing happens on my FX8350 / 990FXA-UD3 it's just the way they are.

Well dang, so there's no fix for that, huh?

[Fluffy]

引用自 upcoast：

Ps,
""So the problem with this is that when I startup all of my fans will come on and it seems like my PC is gonna turn on, but then all of the fans turn off. A few seconds later my PC will turn on again and startup as normal""

I get ya now ^ , ya that's a freaky Gigabyte thing the same thing happens on my FX8350 / 990FXA-UD3 it's just the way they are.

+1 some motherboards will do this ive got an older asus that does the same thing with or without oc

also that particular motherboard is a budget gigabyte.. while still good its 4+1 phase so 4.2ghz on the fx 6300 will put you at 125-140w so i wouldnt go any higher on that board

[rookie]

Could be a corrupted BIOS. VRM's could be overheating and need additional cooling. Doesn't that cpu turbo up to 4.2 ghz. If it does why do you need it to run at 4.2 ghz constantly?

[God]

引用自 rookie：

Could be a corrupted BIOS. VRM's could be overheating and need additional cooling. Doesn't that cpu turbo up to 4.2 ghz. If it does why do you need it to run at 4.2 ghz constantly?

I've already checked VRM temps and they aren't overheating. I even manually checked with an IR thermal gun and pointed it at the VRMs to make sure. And turbo isn't on all cores so it wouldn't matter anyways. I need the extra performance for games like arma 3 (it did help a lot, especially with 64 bit just coming out!) I have not heard about a corrupted bios issue, maybe I can check that out.

[God]

引用自 Fluffy：

引用自 upcoast：

Ps,
""So the problem with this is that when I startup all of my fans will come on and it seems like my PC is gonna turn on, but then all of the fans turn off. A few seconds later my PC will turn on again and startup as normal""

I get ya now ^ , ya that's a freaky Gigabyte thing the same thing happens on my FX8350 / 990FXA-UD3 it's just the way they are.

+1 some motherboards will do this ive got an older asus that does the same thing with or without oc

also that particular motherboard is a budget gigabyte.. while still good its 4+1 phase so 4.2ghz on the fx 6300 will put you at 125-140w so i wouldnt go any higher on that board

Ok, lesson of the day: DON'T CHEAP OUT ON THE MOTHERBOARD WHEN BUILDING A PC. When I built this PC I didn't know much about computers. Next time I'll do a little more research for my motherboard, but for now I'll just have to deal with the startup issue since there's no problems once I startup and I have no way of fixing it and keeping my OC.

[Sandman]

Also dude your heatsink is a $30 heatsink. If you want to OC you need something better.

Also I disagree with people who advocate a manual vcore. Keep voltage adaptive and use the voltage offset. That way you're not drawing max power at idle. That just creates heat and wears our your gear and uses more electricity.

[Big Boom Boom]

引用自 Sandman：

Also dude your heatsink is a $30 heatsink. If you want to OC you need something better.

Also I disagree with people who advocate a manual vcore. Keep voltage adaptive and use the voltage offset. That way you're not drawing max power at idle. That just creates heat and wears our your gear and uses more electricity.

That heatsink can handle OC just fine, unless it's past 4.5Ghz+ on the FX. It in fact can keep up with low end AIO like Corsair H55.

[Sandman]

引用自 Big Boom Boom：

引用自 Sandman：

Also dude your heatsink is a $30 heatsink. If you want to OC you need something better.

Also I disagree with people who advocate a manual vcore. Keep voltage adaptive and use the voltage offset. That way you're not drawing max power at idle. That just creates heat and wears our your gear and uses more electricity.

That heatsink can handle OC just fine, unless it's past 4.5Ghz+ on the FX. It in fact can keep up with low end AIO like Corsair H55.

Water cooled is going to offer better GPU temps for GPUs with fans on the bottom if you've got a front mounted radiator.

Those big heat sinks like the 212 restrict air flow a lot in the case.

[Big Boom Boom]

引用自 Sandman：

引用自 Big Boom Boom：

That heatsink can handle OC just fine, unless it's past 4.5Ghz+ on the FX. It in fact can keep up with low end AIO like Corsair H55.

Water cooled is going to offer better GPU temps for GPUs with fans on the bottom if you've got a front mounted radiator.

Those big heat sinks like the 212 restrict air flow a lot in the case.

I point my 212X upward with 2 140mm exhaust, and I slap an extra NF-F12 2000rpm for push/pull configuration on the 212X. My G1 GTX 1080 can't be happier, 65C maxed at 2100Mhz Core 10500Mhz Memory at 25C room temp. Before it was at 72C.

Radiator mount on the front will blow hot air into the case, only the CPU gets cool air. You then need to put bottom intake to help the GPU.

[Sandman]

引用自 Big Boom Boom：

引用自 Sandman：

Water cooled is going to offer better GPU temps for GPUs with fans on the bottom if you've got a front mounted radiator.

Those big heat sinks like the 212 restrict air flow a lot in the case.

I point my 212X upward with 2 140mm exhaust, and I slap an extra NF-F12 2000rpm for push/pull configuration on the 212X. My G1 GTX 1080 can't be happier, 65C maxed at 2100Mhz Core 10500Mhz Memory at 25C room temp. Before it was at 72C.

Radiator mount on the front will blow hot air into the case, only the CPU gets cool air. You then need to put bottom intake to help the GPU.

Seen countless videos and tests where they compare front mount radiator and top mount. Bitwit did one on his YouTube. GPU temps went down 10c based on front mount radiator for cards with fans on bottom.

I can confirm this happened as well when I went from air cooled to water cooled. My GPU temps went down without changing anything.

[upcoast]

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5

With the slightly better than H55 the H60 ^, the 212evo still shows well.

Lower end closed loops aren't always better.

[Sandman]

引用自 upcoast：

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2705&page=5

With the slightly better than H55 the H60 ^, the 212evo still shows well.

Lower end closed loops aren't always better.

You want the H100 or H110. 240mm or 280 radiator with the two fans.

Evo 212 is extremely loud as well.