Graphics Card for moderate gaming and Photoshop / Lightroom / Affinity

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Currently have a AMD HD 7870 card and looking to upgrade. Primarily for Photoshop, Affiniti Photo and Lightroom, but also gaming on the side... Counterstrike and Warthunder being faves, but would like something capable of playing like of Project Cars / Forza Horizon too.

Colour accuracy is important, so looking for (ideally) 10BPP (bit per pixel) / 32 bit colour. 4GB 256 bit minimum or better. DisplayPort would be useful too.

Firepro and Quadro cards that can handle games are way too expensive, so looking for ideas and suggestions around £200, but can stretch to £300 (ish)....

Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

i5 4670k
16Gb HyperX Fury (prob going to bump this up to 32Gb in the near future)
GA-Z87-D3HP Motherboard board.
XFX AMD HD 7870 2GB
Dell Ultrasharp UP2516D 2560 x 1440 [100% Adobe RGB, 100% sRGB]

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

vadim eredeti hozzászólása:

Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

And neither any of the current Nvidia Geforce lineup. Supporting open GL and supporting ''10 bit color'' is two different things.

only FirePro / Quadro cards has 10-bit color support.

I think, that isn't true: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus

they dropped 10-bit color support from all Geforce.

the OP contacted Nvidia about the issue, read below what they have said in reply......

changeable_fate eredeti hozzászólása:

For those that have an interest in Gaming and Lightroom / Photoshop, here's official response emails from Nvidia and AMD:

AMD:
Thank you for the email. I understand that you are looking for suggestion to buy the graphics card that supports for Adobe Lightroom and gaming.

The Rx 400 and Rx 500 series GPUs you can try. The Adobe Lightroom requires the Open GL 3.3. All Rx series GPUs supports Open GL 4.5. So it should be supporting without any issue.

Rx series GPU - http://www.amd.com/en/RX-series

However, please confirm the support of the product with application developer...


Best regards,

AMD Global Customer Care

NVIDIA:
Thank you for the reply.

Professional applications such as Adobe Photoshop use OpenGL 10-bit per color buffers which require an NVIDIA Quadro GPU.

Adobe recommends the below Quadro cards for Photoshop:
2000, 4000 (Windows® and Mac OS), CX, 5000, 6000, K600, K2000, K4000, K5000 (Windows® and Mac OS), M4000, M5000, P2000, P4000, P5000.

You may go with a Quadro M2000. This is a mid-range card and it supports 10-bit per color.

Note: Please contact the motherboard manufacturer to confirm the compatibility of the card with the motherboard.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care

[vadim]

Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

they dropped 10-bit color support from all Geforce.

the OP contacted Nvidia about the issue, read below what they have said in reply......

Please, reread my message again. Probably you haven't understood it.
NVidia said that GTX supports 10-bit color only in exculive fullscreen mode. Thanks to that you can see 10-bit color palette in some games. And you said that GTX do not support 10-bit color under any conditions. See the difference?

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vadim eredeti hozzászólása:

Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

they dropped 10-bit color support from all Geforce.

the OP contacted Nvidia about the issue, read below what they have said in reply......

Please, reread my message again. Probably you haven't understood it.
NVidia said that GTX supports 10-bit color only in exculive fullscreen mode. Thanks to that you can see 10-bit color palette in some games. And you said that GTX do not support 10-bit color under any conditions. See the difference?

you're right....

my bad, i haven't read it well.........

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Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

AMD RX 480/ 580 does not support 10 bit color. And neither any of the current Nvidia Geforce lineup. Supporting open GL and supporting ''10 bit color'' is two different things.

only FirePro / Quadro cards has 10-bit color support.

There are no such things called ''best of both worlds''.

in order to enable 10-bit color, you also need 10-bit color supported monitor connected via Displayport.

for more info--

https://superuser.com/questions/545563/what-are-the-advantages-of-10-bit-monitors

Thanks for the help and the link....
I have the monitor (and the DP cable)... just the card appears to be the weak link in all this.

I must say i have found it more than a little frustrating that manufacturers do not readily publish this information, and whilst Nvidia eventually gave a straight reply to a straight question, fact is I had to ask rather than the information being readily available....

Equally frustrating that I'll have to rob a bank to afford the card that can run Photoshop at it's best, and play a good game of Crysis and GTA at the same time....!

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

changeable_fate eredeti hozzászólása:

Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

AMD RX 480/ 580 does not support 10 bit color. And neither any of the current Nvidia Geforce lineup. Supporting open GL and supporting ''10 bit color'' is two different things.

only FirePro / Quadro cards has 10-bit color support.

There are no such things called ''best of both worlds''.

in order to enable 10-bit color, you also need 10-bit color supported monitor connected via Displayport.

for more info--

https://superuser.com/questions/545563/what-are-the-advantages-of-10-bit-monitors

Thanks for the help and the link....
I have the monitor (and the DP cable)... just the card appears to be the weak link in all this.

I must say i have found it more than a little frustrating that manufacturers do not readily publish this information, and whilst Nvidia eventually gave a straight reply to a straight question, fact is I had to ask rather than the information being readily available....

Equally frustrating that I'll have to rob a bank to afford the card that can run Photoshop at it's best, and play a good game of Crysis and GTA at the same time....!

Quadro P2000 could be a good choice for you, its gaming power is somewhere between GTX 1050TI and GTX 1060. Means it has a decent gaming performance too.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2931/quadro-p2000

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-VCQP2000-PB-Video-Graphic-Cards/dp/B06X9Q9XW3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497526046&sr=8-1&keywords=quadro+p2000

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Cloud Boy eredeti hozzászólása:

changeable_fate eredeti hozzászólása:

Thanks for the help and the link....
I have the monitor (and the DP cable)... just the card appears to be the weak link in all this.

I must say i have found it more than a little frustrating that manufacturers do not readily publish this information, and whilst Nvidia eventually gave a straight reply to a straight question, fact is I had to ask rather than the information being readily available....

Equally frustrating that I'll have to rob a bank to afford the card that can run Photoshop at it's best, and play a good game of Crysis and GTA at the same time....!

Quadro P2000 could be a good choice for you, its gaming power is somewhere between GTX 1050TI and GTX 1060. Means it has a decent gaming performance too.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2931/quadro-p2000

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-VCQP2000-PB-Video-Graphic-Cards/dp/B06X9Q9XW3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497526046&sr=8-1&keywords=quadro+p2000

Bit more expensive though - will probably wait till next payday now. Should be worth the wait though.

I've got a further message direct from AMD too, which confirms what you said in your earlier post, and goes into a little more detail than their original message did:-


AMD:
Thank you for your response.


Please be informed using the Rx 400 or Rx 500 with a 10Bit monitor, application rendering may still be in 8 bit. So Enabling 10 bit in Radeon Settings/CCC for consumer products will match the colour depth on the display for output, but the surface being rendered can be 6/8 bit and is dithered to 10 bit output if this feature is enabled.


In consumer products (non Firepro) 10 bit rendering is not supported. This is not a per product support but rather class. Workstations versus Consumer.


Currently only Workstation products support 10 bit rendering. If you are looking for viewing/working with 10 bit content and looking for full support (for example using Photoshop for 10 Bit rendering) you cannot use any consumer card for it and would instead require a Firepro product.


Thank you for contacting AMD