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Bluesky 2017 年 6 月 12 日 上午 2:33
XBox One X ...
So... I'm kinda shocked... They are saying it can run games at 4k 60 fps... But the console price is 500€...
How?? I feel like there's a trap somewhere. To get a PC that powerfull you have to pay 1000+ €
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引用自 Cathulhu
And who plays on 4k with an RX580?
And yes, it will run games on 4k, just not with 60FPS in most cases.
So as you can see, the first post in this thread was an intentionally misleading lie perpetrated by a butthurt PC gamer.
Cathulhu 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:14 
Considering the availability and price of a 4k TV suitable for gaming, i'd prefer a 1080p setup, which would be a lot cheaper in the end.
Also, XBox still lacks games, E3 didn't change that.
引用自 Cathulhu
Considering the availability and price of a 4k TV suitable for gaming, i'd prefer a 1080p setup, which would be a lot cheaper in the end.
Also, XBox still lacks games, E3 didn't change that.
Hur dur, the only gamers you can play on Xbox are exclusives, hur dur. And no, it does not lack games.
Cathulhu 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:20 
Well, there certainly is no incentive in getting one. Which is what exclusive titles are for. Why get an XBox if you can get the same games for your PC or the cheaper PS4 Pro?
引用自 Cathulhu
Well, there certainly is no incentive in getting one. Which is what exclusive titles are for. Why get an XBox if you can get the same games for your PC or the cheaper PS4 Pro?
Because you can't beat it in price to performance? Or you want real 4K HDR, or maybe because you don't want a bunch of hack and slash Ed and JRPGs?

Or maybe you just don't want to spend much more on a PC just for the same performance.
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tacoshy 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:34 
引用自 Cathulhu
Considering the availability and price of a 4k TV suitable for gaming, i'd prefer a 1080p setup, which would be a lot cheaper in the end.
Also, XBox still lacks games, E3 didn't change that.

Nah you can get a real good Samsung 4K TV for 500€ now even a bit less. And you forget that you use a TV for more then just playing the scorpio.


引用自 Cathulhu
Well, there certainly is no incentive in getting one. Which is what exclusive titles are for. Why get an XBox if you can get the same games for your PC or the cheaper PS4 Pro?
Because you can't beat it in price to performance? Or you want real 4K HDR, or maybe because you don't want a bunch of hack and slash Ed and JRPGs?

Price per performance is better with PC hardware... just most ppl dont buy their pc with possible upgrade path so they need to buy a whole new system which makes the initial cost more expensive nor they dont know like you that consoles use ultra low graphic programmed games to run at all with that hardware...
引用自 tacoshy
引用自 Cathulhu
Considering the availability and price of a 4k TV suitable for gaming, i'd prefer a 1080p setup, which would be a lot cheaper in the end.
Also, XBox still lacks games, E3 didn't change that.

Nah you can get a real good Samsung 4K TV for 500€ now even a bit less. And you forget that you use a TV for more then just playing the scorpio.


Because you can't beat it in price to performance? Or you want real 4K HDR, or maybe because you don't want a bunch of hack and slash Ed and JRPGs?

Price per performance is better with PC hardware... just most ppl dont buy their pc with possible upgrade path so they need to buy a whole new system which makes the initial cost more expensive nor they dont know like you that consoles use ultra low graphic programmed games to run at all with that hardware...
You can use Xbox on monitors too. Also, give me a part picker than is equal to or beats the Xbox one X for the same cost or less.
Cathulhu 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:47 
You still haven't answered the simple question on why we should choose an XBox One X over a PC or PS4 Pro.
Why would we do that if there is no real incentive to doing that?

PS4 Pro has the better selection of console exclusive titles and costs less.
Why get a XBox One X?
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Clumsybeast 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:49 
Actually not even all the Xbox X games will be Native 4K, but uses checkerboarding to give the 4K look. For example, looking at Digital Foundrys new video, it shows that Assassins Creed Origins uses checkerboarding 4K, and is at 30fps. So not only can it not handle 4K 60, but it can't even handle actual native 4K for some games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oPvbpVGP0
引用自 Cathulhu
You still haven't answered the simple question on why we should choose an XBox One X over a PC or PS4 Pro.
Why would we do that if there is no real incentive to doing that?

PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to XBox One X and costs less.
PS4 Pro has the better selection of console exclusive titles.
Why get a XBox One X?
Oh God, you're legitimately challenged. "PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to the Xbox One X and costs less". Well GG, I'm getting out of here before I get even more Autism from you guys.
最後修改者:Military Industrial Complex Simp; 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 5:49
Bluesky 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 6:02 
引用自 Cathulhu
You still haven't answered the simple question on why we should choose an XBox One X over a PC or PS4 Pro.
Why would we do that if there is no real incentive to doing that?

PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to XBox One X and costs less.
PS4 Pro has the better selection of console exclusive titles.
Why get a XBox One X?
Oh God, you're legitimately challenged. "PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to the Xbox One X and costs less". Well GG, I'm getting out of here before I get even more Autism from you guys.
K then, thanks for your precious informations :x
tacoshy 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 6:07 
You can use Xbox on monitors too. Also, give me a part picker than is equal to or beats the Xbox one X for the same cost or less.

The Initial prices for a complete new build is mostly more expensive but unlike with consoles you take over your HDD/SSD, PSU, optical drives and maybe even RAM and MoBo over. Performancewise the hardware in consoloes match hardware from 8 years on pc. Just do the comparrison with the computing and graphic performance of a console like PS4 with computer hardware and you'll see that computerhardware gets same performance done with 8 yearl old tech that get sold for real low prices. the only thing why consoles can play modern games are the ultra low graphic settings and maxed out optimization.

Just compare SW:BF1 on PS4 and PC. you have no graphicx effects on the console all the nice lighting effects are missing and thats actually the thing that makes the game worth playing at all.
Bad 💀 Motha 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 6:33 
Folks need to just stop looking at PC vs Console in terms of price.

First off, no console does half the stuff u can do on a PC.

PC games can be had for cheap.

Console game basically don't drop in pricing, unless you can get a used physical copy perhaps. PC games go on-sale all the time, or can be purchased very cheap even before the game releases. I paid approx total of $50 for Fallout 4 + Season Pass, before it even released on PC. Try doing that with Console games.

Consoles strangle you with digital pricing and their focus on offering users deals, when you pay for service subs, like Xbox Live, PSN.

Consoles have small amount of storage, upgrading that means an external slow storage.
You could technically get an SSD for internal and turn the old HDD into an external, but that also has a price which console users seem to laugh at. Fact is, a slow HDD means the entire system is slow. Seriously, how long does it take to install GTAV on a fresh console? Hmm about an hour or so (and thats from physical disc version) and then there are patch updates to do. Then it takes forever just to get into the game and play it.

PC can last you way longer than any console, if you go about doing it right.
At the least you might need to upgrade cooling, storage, GPU over time perhaps.

Consoles use apps that are nothing more than basically how all Mobile apps are, which are sub-par and don't offer a good well rounded experience like when compared to using it on PC in a web browser or client app; such as Twitch for example.

PC allows you much more, such as doing work, recording, rendering, photo editing, etc...

Don't try to build a PC for $500 or less; it will only hurt your chance of it having a longer life overall as far as how far down the road that CPU / GPU performance can last you before upgrading is basically a must to keep up with future demanding games.

It used to be that you buy a Console and you'd be good for many many years. This is no longer the Case to a certain extent. Sure if you still have an original XboxOne from around Nov 2015, you're probably still ok with that. But the fact is, they do revise those over time and that have gotten faster and better since release. And I'm not talking about the S or X models.
最後修改者:Bad 💀 Motha; 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 6:40
Cathulhu 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 7:12 
Oh God, you're legitimately challenged. "PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to the Xbox One X and costs less". Well GG, I'm getting out of here before I get even more Autism from you guys.
So, instead of keeping a meaningful discussion with arguments you misquote others and insult them.
Reported.
引用自 Cathulhu
Oh God, you're legitimately challenged. "PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to the Xbox One X and costs less". Well GG, I'm getting out of here before I get even more Autism from you guys.
So, instead of keeping a meaningful discussion with arguments you misquote others and insult them.
Reported.
Decided to check back in here one more time. Have fun getting raped and murdered by an innocent child refugee ;).

引用自 Cathulhu
Oh God, you're legitimately challenged. "PS4 Pro has the better hardware compared to the Xbox One X and costs less". Well GG, I'm getting out of here before I get even more Autism from you guys.
So, instead of keeping a meaningful discussion with arguments you misquote others and insult them.
Reported.
Oh, and there was no misquoting either. You're intentionally trying to mislead moderators.
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