Suggestions for CPU Upgrading [From i5-4690k]

[Ryokuu]

I'm at that point, where I'm ready to consider upgrading my CPU, to something more newer, and modern. Of course, the 4690k is by no means, outdated at the moment, but, I want something faster right now.

I'm open to both AMD and Intel suggestions, with a budget of around ~$300. I have a GTX 970, and I'm not planning to upgrade that anytime soon, so I'm good on GPU. If anything, I'll buy another and SLi it.

Was thinking of upgrading to a 7600k, but then idk if the Z270 MB will need a 6600k to boot.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

I bet a graphics card upgrade will be better for you than a cpu upgrade right now

[Ryokuu]

Anivia님이 먼저 게시:

I bet a graphics card upgrade will be better for you than a cpu upgrade right now

At the end of the day, I will be both upgrading CPU and GPU. But the CPU takes priority, for now. I have plans to go with a 1070, in the long run.

[Big Boom Boom]

Better to upgrade to an i7 rather than i5. Lots of games now benefit from HT e.g GTAV.

[Ryokuu]

Big Boom Boom님이 먼저 게시:

Better to upgrade to an i7 rather than i5. Lots of games now benefit from HT e.g GTAV.

That is true. I am highly considering getting the 7700k as well. The only thing that's really making me hesitant is the cost of a new MB, and RAM, lol. That's an easy $500 for just 3 parts.

[Big Boom Boom]

Or you could do a Ryzen 5 1600X for cheaper and hope things change in the next few years.

[Ryokuu]

Big Boom Boom님이 먼저 게시:

Or you could do a Ryzen 5 1600X for cheaper and hope things change in the next few years.

I will definitely consider the R5 1600x. Or possibly just build a new system altogether and sell some of my parts on eBay aha.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Just grab a 4790K; there is very little performance increase from this i7 vs the newer ones.
Get more RAM, SSD, Win10 64bit 1703 (clean install the OS on SSD)
and you'll have a decent system for many years to come still.

You could seriously just rock on with 4790K for years still and just replace GPU as needed.

[Ryokuu]

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Just grab a 4790K; there is very little performance increase from this i7 vs the newer ones.
Get more RAM, SSD, Win10 64bit 1703 (clean install the OS on SSD)
and you'll have a decent system for many years to come still.

You could seriously just rock on with 4790K for years still and just replace GPU as needed.

What's the IPC of a 4790k vs a 7700k? At stock frequencies.

I already have most of what you listed. I have 16GBs of HyperX Kingston RAM, a 120GB Zotac SSD, and W10.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Forget IPC #s

Compare like this:

CPU name + GPU name + Game name
via a YouTube search...

4790K easily goes toe to toe with 6700K and 7700K; the older CPU even OC way better.
4790K is not old enough either to where it would have an issue with demanding games, or SLI; or running GPUs like even 1080 Ti with ease. Doing 4K or VR, not a problem.

[Ryokuu]

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Forget IPC #s

Compare like this:

CPU name + GPU name + Game name
via a YouTube search...

4790K easily goes toe to toe with 6700K and 7700K; the older CPU even OC way better.
4790K is not old enough either to where it would have an issue with demanding games, or SLI; or running GPUs like even 1080 Ti with ease. Doing 4K or VR, not a problem.

Alright, good points. I assume you own a 4790k yourself? What's your highest stable OC? (I don't mind buying a new cooler for it). I have a 4.2ghz OC right now, paired a Hyper 212 EVO.

[hawkeye]

If you aren't going to buy a faster graphics card then you won't see any improvement.

Even if you do and your monitor is 60Hz then you also won't see any major change, no matter what you upgrade to.

If you load msi afterburner and check your cpu and gpu loads, then I reckon you'll see the 970 running in the 90+% area and the i5 cruising along in the 50% area.. (edit: maybe except witcher 3 which seems to run all cores on many i5's at 100% no matter what the fps)

single thread /multi thread scores

i5-4690k 2237 / 7762
i5-7600k 2401 / 9279
not much difference

i7-4790k 2530 / 11197
i7-7700k 2585 / 12182
same performance

the i5-7600k will run games at 4k extremely well, then so will your i5-4690k

a 1080p comparison -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XylVCItVhS4

the second card in a sli rig averages about 50% fps increase only. Some games don't support sli.

What would I do - buy a gtx1070 or if you want faster a 1080ti

[Bad 💀 Motha]

hawkeye님이 먼저 게시:

If you aren't going to buy a faster graphics card then you won't see any improvement.

Even if you do and your monitor is 60Hz then you also won't see any major change, no matter what you upgrade to.

If you load msi afterburner and check your cpu and gpu loads, then I reckon you'll see the 970 running in the 90+% area and the i5 cruising along in the 50% area..

single thread /multi thread scores

i5-4690k 2237 / 7762
i5-7600k 2401 / 9279
not much difference

i7-4790k 2530 / 11197
i7-7700k 2585 / 12182
same performance

the i5-7600k will run games at 4k extremely well, then so will your i5-4690k

a 1080p comparison -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XylVCItVhS4

the second card in a sli rig averages about 50% fps increase only. Some games don't support sli.

What would I do - buy a gtx1070 or of you want faster a 1080ti

The thing with games generally though is above 1200p or so; the game becomes much more GPU dependable. This is why AMD was mainly using 1080p gaming comparisons when showing their CPU performance comparisons.

In most games, if you get rock-solid 1080p performance, that should still hold true at 2160p when you have a good CPU; as that higher res performance will then come down to your GPU for the most part. However, this doesn't mean you can then try to skimp by using a lesser CPU.

[Supafly]

R.a.i.님이 먼저 게시:

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Forget IPC #s

Compare like this:

CPU name + GPU name + Game name
via a YouTube search...

4790K easily goes toe to toe with 6700K and 7700K; the older CPU even OC way better.
4790K is not old enough either to where it would have an issue with demanding games, or SLI; or running GPUs like even 1080 Ti with ease. Doing 4K or VR, not a problem.

Alright, good points. I assume you own a 4790k yourself? What's your highest stable OC? (I don't mind buying a new cooler for it). I have a 4.2ghz OC right now, paired a Hyper 212 EVO.

Stable OC can depend on the actual chip/cooling and as I don't OC mine I can't say what mine can do. However, I do have a 4ghz 4790k that boosts to 4.4ghz, with a decent Aircooling setup ready for when I need to OC it. Just havn't felt the need for it to be faster, yet.

[Big Boom Boom]

Bad_Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Forget IPC #s

Compare like this:

CPU name + GPU name + Game name
via a YouTube search...

4790K easily goes toe to toe with 6700K and 7700K; the older CPU even OC way better.
4790K is not old enough either to where it would have an issue with demanding games, or SLI; or running GPUs like even 1080 Ti with ease. Doing 4K or VR, not a problem.

There's a 5% increase in IPC from i7-4790k to i7-6700k and i7-7700k.

https://youtu.be/tbGT-u4i3EY?t=492

Also Skylake and Kaby Lake has way better OC potential except for Intel crappy decision to use bad quality TIM. That's why Kaby Lake hold record for i7 LN2 and now Liquid Helium overclocking, not i7-4790k.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-gskill-overclock-ram-cpu,34699.html

[Andrius227]

Upgrade gpu first. Gtx970 is seriously outdated. But a 4690k would easly last you a couple more years...