is exchanging my radeon R9 290 OC to a RX 580 really an 'upgrade'?

[Phoenixflieger]

My pc system is getting old, over 4 years by now (which in hardware years count at least double) ;-)
here my specs:

Asus P8z68-V Pro/Gen3
Intel i7-2700K @ 4.2GHz
Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC, 4Gb
BENQ XL2720Z (27", 1920x1080 60Hz, VSR 3200x1800 enabled)
24Gb DD3 (@ 10,10,10,30)
Win 10 pro

I am considering different options, for now simply exchanging my GPU with another Radeon (creature of habit, I don't even remember my last Nvidia card, must have been more than 10 years at least)

Just released is the RX 580 8Gb for about 250€.

Comparing the specs I find my current R9 still being better in some crucial specs:
more shader units (!), ROPs, TMUs, GPU clock speed, memory bus.

Nevertheless the first benchmarks favor the RX 580 while the driver still needs to be optimized; and will be in the future. The R9 won't see much optimization anymore.

What I am looking for is to have VSR at 4K resolution (for AA purposes) while having a definite performance boost under highest quality.

Is the RX 580 currently really an alternative? Will later versions be even worth it (for me)?

[Cathulhu]

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-580-vs-AMD-R9-290/3923vs2171
While it technically is an upgrade, the performance gain does not really justify the cost.

[Phoenixflieger]

That's exactly my dilemma. But how much will optimized drivers bring in the future?

(I mean it is 4 years now and the current GPU line is not decisively better?!)

[bigbenisdaman]

No. Depending on your oc you may actually get a drop in performance. You can flash a 480 to a 580, plus they don't overclock much, and only has a very small gain over a 290/390. Rebrands is all AMD has done for a long time, hope vega changes that like Ryzen. My old 7950 I had overclocked was on par with a 380, and that's a very old card.

[Cathulhu]

I doubt there is much room for improvement considering the RX580 is for all intents and purposes a RX480 with a newer firmware and slightly faster clockspeeds.
As the RX480 is already a year old, most of the possible optimizations should have already happened.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

You gain nothing, stick with what you have.

RX 570:
Much Lower watts = cooler GPU
More Vram if you're going after the 8GB version.
Newer tech.

R9 290:
Higher Memory Bus.
Higher Memory Bandwidth.

In short you may, or may not see much of anything in gaming performance.

[Pregaymium]

Get a GTX 1080 Ti If you planning for 4k

[erratic_gamer]

Originally posted by Phoenixflieger:

My pc system is getting old, over 4 years by now (which in hardware years count at least double) ;-)
here my specs:

Asus P8z68-V Pro/Gen3
Intel i7-2700K @ 4.2GHz
Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC, 4Gb
BENQ XL2720Z (27", 1920x1080 60Hz, VSR 3200x1800 enabled)
24Gb DD3 (@ 10,10,10,30)
Win 10 pro

I am considering different options, for now simply exchanging my GPU with another Radeon (creature of habit, I don't even remember my last Nvidia card, must have been more than 10 years at least)

Just released is the RX 580 8Gb for about 250€.

Comparing the specs I find my current R9 still being better in some crucial specs:
more shader units (!), ROPs, TMUs, GPU clock speed, memory bus.

Nevertheless the first benchmarks favor the RX 580 while the driver still needs to be optimized; and will be in the future. The R9 won't see much optimization anymore.

What I am looking for is to have VSR at 4K resolution (for AA purposes) while having a definite performance boost under highest quality.

Is the RX 580 currently really an alternative? Will later versions be even worth it (for me)?

IMO your CPU+MOBO +RAM need upgrading , the GPU will do fine for another year.

[upcoast]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1868?vs=1772

Not worth changing out the r9 290 imho ^.

R9 290/390 still perform strong in DX12/Vulkan.

Ps,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQSlkBUZ4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ0gjcY__z8

Your CPU is fine ^ and your ram is fine.

4K gaming if that's what you're aiming for you'd be looking at the GTX1080ti min or see what AMD Vega brings to the table if it ever materializes. My belief is that as a whole 4k gaming is still premature with the gpus available it's better to stick with 1440p.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/74853-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-performance-review-10.html

4K ^ GTX1080ti.

[DarkStarClassic]

Its upgarde but mostly also for 8GB newer tech drivers way more optimized for 580 then old 290

[bigbenisdaman]

Found a pretty cool vid for your cpu. As others said theres no need in upgrading it yet, unless you get like a 1080ti or something lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IY7cf-znE

[Phoenixflieger]

Originally posted by bigbenisdaman:

Found a pretty cool vid for your cpu. As others said theres no need in upgrading it yet, unless you get like a 1080ti or something lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_IY7cf-znE

Well, quite nice! A good example whyI am not looking into replacing my whole system (aka new computer), so I keep my i7 2700K which runs @4,2Ghz for now.

[Phoenixflieger]

Originally posted by upcoast:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1868?vs=1772

Not worth changing out the r9 290 imho ^.

R9 290/390 still perform strong in DX12/Vulkan.

Ps,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoQSlkBUZ4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ0gjcY__z8

Your CPU is fine ^ and your ram is fine.

4K gaming if that's what you're aiming for you'd be looking at the GTX1080ti min or see what AMD Vega brings to the table if it ever materializes. My belief is that as a whole 4k gaming is still premature with the gpus available it's better to stick with 1440p.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/74853-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-performance-review-10.html

4K ^ GTX1080ti.

THX, I am not looking in actual 4K gaming, my screen isn't up for that.

I am aiming at VSR (Virtual Super Resolution) settings of 4K (3840x2160) for improved AA capabilities (and some more frames and better qualitywhile we are at it).
My R9 is only doing 3200x1800 VSR, but it seems a waste to now invest in an 'old' Fury or so which can handle this resolution.

Well, guess I wait for the Vega release and look what it does to performance and prices :-)