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- CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860k - You can get this from Amazon for $50
- GPU: Gigabyte RX 460 4GB Windforce OC - You can get this from Newegg for $100
- Motherboard: Asus - A68HM-E Micro ATX FM2+ - You can get this from outlerPC for about $40, there is a small mail-in rebate
- Heatsink: Hyper T4 or Hyper 212 EVO - You can get these basically anywhere for about $20-$25, the T4 is shorter and can fir in more cases, you could also just use the stock cooler if you want to save a little there
- RAM: EVGA Superclocked 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1866 - This is from Microcenter for just $50
- Storage: Tochiba P300 1TB HDD - This is also from microcenter for $40
- Power supply: You can decide - I reccomend something along the lines of 400-500 watts, preferably from EVGA, or another good company, just stay away from bad power supplies, they can go up in smoke, literally. Amazon has a 400watt unit for $30, and a 500watt unit for $35
- Optical drive: this is needed to install windows, if you get it as a disk, and other drivers needed to mak the computer run. search DRW-24B1ST in amazon and it should be the first result, made by asus
- Operating system: Windows 10 home 64-bit - you can get this for much less than the msrp of $100 by using sites like kingwin, which has it for $26, I just used it for the first time today, and it was difficult to use, but we purchased it, and it should arrie soon.
Case: whatever you want - just make sure it has support for micro-atx motherbaords and is large enough to fit an aftermarket cooler, if you choose to use it.
Personally, I am newer to the pc building market than many, but I have been designing many systems at a range of pricepoints. Sorry for typos, I made this quickly. It would be nice if you could state a budget, and I can design a system tha fits inside the budget (-tax).
what??? Seriosöy?
To be hinest I believe you have not much idea about computers and also have not read what the OP asked for. This computer (sorry to say) is pretty much trash and it wont be able to play Fallout 4 or Skyrim at 1080p and high to ultra settings. Also you spend alot for somethign with no upgrade path while you recommend dead end hardware.
But to start at the beginning:
1. AMD Athalon with So.AM2+ has been already out of gaming use long time ago and is an absolutly dead end which no possible upgrade path. Anyone actually recommending this for a new build cant be taken serios tbh.
2. The GPU is fine and actually one of the things I could agree on. But then back to the first point: It will be bottlenecked by the Athalon greatly.
3. Even on low budget builds you don't recommend AM2+ Boards. They are a dead end and will allow no upgrading which makes it in the end terrible expensive. If you want it cheap and doesnt care for an upgrade path, buy a console. So nowaday you go for a So.1151 or So.AM4 MoBo.
4. The CPU cooler I could agree on no need to argue about this
5. RAM depends on the MoBo for the new MoBo you take DDR4 as you must and because it is way faster and better. Then you use 1x8GB and upgrade it later with a 2nd one or go directly to 2x8GB as most new games require more then 8.
6. You dont buy Toshiba HDD's as they are bad and and tend to have troubles. You buy a Seagate or WD HDD 2TB. "TB isnt much expensiver then a 1TB but has twice the space and current games require alot. Also If you have the budget you buy a Samsung SSD for OS which will boost alot of thing pretty high.
7. Basically yes but no. You preferably want to buy only once a PSU so go for a quality 500W+ preferable 650-750W so you keep your upgrade path open for 1070+ GPU without having to buy a new PSU at that time.
8. No you dont need an optical drive to install windows. nowaday most ppl do it with an usb-stick. If you actually need one because you dont have one lying around you buy the cheapest one from LG which cost in germany less then 12€. No need to invest here anything more.
9. you dont buy Win 10 keys from gaming sites as they are often used multiple times and often get locked. If you want to buy windows cheap then you buy a Win 7 COA (way cheaper) and use it later to activate Win 10. This is btw in the EU due EU-law absolutly legal and supported by MS. In non EU countries it still works.
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Sorry Psychoacoustics to tear your post apart but as you are stated you are new to this. If you want to go absolutly cheap (400$) you buy a console for which games are optimized as hell and you dont have to worry about compability or drivers etc.
The main reason to buy a PC for gaming is the higher performance (which is more then 400$) and the possibility to upgrade it later one which makes it costwise alot cheaper then.
So it is simple that your first build has to be abit more expensive but after that you keep on upgrading the CPU and GPU in cycles so you can keep up. Then you dont buy the newest stuff but the cheapest which fullfill your needs. Like I already said, a good PC builder will make build that allows and support a future upgrade path at lowest cost possible.
As example an often used budget build therfor is:
-Z270 MoBO
-Pentium G So.1151 CPU (Dual Core HT)
-GTX 1050 Ti
-650W+ PSU
Therefor you can upgrade as you need the CPU to 6th/7th/8th Gen. i5 (like 7600K king for gamin) or i7 (7700K for someone who likes to do more then stream)
And you can upgrade to any GPU aslong it is not bottlenecked by the CPU
All youc an do by only buying those 2 components without having to change anything or buy anything new. Of course you could also upgrade by adding more RAM sticks or simply by adding a SSD or HDD. And then in the end you are way cheaper then by buying a new pc all 1-2 years because you cant keep up at max/ultra settings.
I had a feeling someone would say something like this. I like to experiment around with stuff, and it doesn't always end well. I just didn't know a budget and wen't with a very cheap option. the FM2+ is priced low, and I've looked at many comparisons and founf the 860k to be a good proce to perfomance. I also have a computer with a 7700k and a 1070FTW running off of a 500watt power supply (I know, just a small mistake I made when I built it, I'm upgrading it to overclock). With a z270 motherboard, you might as well get an i3 7350k from microcenter for $130, and a Hyper 212 as mentioned, and experiment with overclocking. It also has hyperthreading, runs at a higher clockspeed, and has 1MB more cache than a pentium G4560, for example.
I just tend to design systems that are more out of the ordinary. I was also kindof confused because the computer describes is Apple, with had different ram and an integrated GPU.
that btw. backs up with everything all reliable experts going to say at the hardware board.
And like I said, going as cheap as possible will be always mroe expensive at the end because you always need to pay twice and uprade faster and spend more then by buying futurproof (keeping an upgrade path open)
Last but not least, if you want add me always happy to discuss such thing in chat or/and join the hardware board!
Sorry, I was going off of microcenter, which is in the us. The 7600k is about $210, and the 7350k is about $130, that also have a $30 discount on many CPU + motherboard combos. Pcpartpicker doesn't include microcenter for some reason. Maybe if we can get a budget from the original asker, we could work to make a system.
And by saying I was newer than most to the custom pc market, I meant about 7 months. But I have designed countless computers just to see what I can do. I have gotten a 7700k and an RX580 in a build for around $1000 without compromises to other performance. Once again a budget to go with for this would be great, and we could try ryzen as well, but I fear it may not have the same upgradability in the future.
Being good or an expert in PC-Building doesn't just mean that you can make a playlist in side a budget but also the other details. Adjustments of performance (the one outside of any data sheets) and knowing what makes sense and what not. Most ppl go for the i7-7700K but a crappy GPU because they think that the i7 is better then an i5 because they don't know that for pure gaming and most other stuff the normal gamer does, the i7 is simply op. But then we are also at the point that a good PC-builder will say that some ideas are crap or not needed because we not try to sell something, we just advice or build the thing.
And something's are not to save money on while on others you simply can overspend. I would never save on the HDD because fragmented Data are annoying as hell and the price difference is just to low for this. Also I would always advice to take a good MoBo which has all the components that can make a difference. Aorus MoBo as example a really outstanding sound chip. Aorus and Asus have MoBo with steel shielding to prevent components to bend or brake off like the PCIe slot for the GPU.
I've also heard that R3 chips will have up to four cores, and they're coming out in Q3 (very soon).
ASUS makes great motherboards, and the bios settings are easy to use. I agree that is is better to spend a little more so you make sure your pc won't fail.