Stryker Dec 20, 2012 @ 10:22pm
Add "Can you run it?" check through steam
Ever used the website "can you run it?" or a equivalent tool to check to see if your computer can handle a game? I think steam should add something like this but built right in to steam.
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EXE Dec 20, 2012 @ 10:33pm 
Yeah, this could be helpful. It should show up in a game's store page.
jnn Dec 21, 2012 @ 4:37am 
+1
Tito Shivan Dec 21, 2012 @ 5:15am 
It's been asked lots of times, not going to happen.
Deciding if a game works is a far from trivial decision from a technical standpoint.
It puts the 'blame' of the choice on Valve, not the user.
Your Steam account can be used in any computer you want. What may work on a machine may not work on another.

In short, from Valve's side, it's too complicated and not worth it.
bl4cknoir Dec 21, 2012 @ 7:26am 
Great idea! I frequently use systemrequirementslab.com before buying a game, and Steam should definetly consider it!
gardian06 Dec 21, 2012 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
It's been asked lots of times, not going to happen.
Deciding if a game works is a far from trivial decision from a technical standpoint.
It puts the 'blame' of the choice on Valve, not the user.
Your Steam account can be used in any computer you want. What may work on a machine may not work on another.

In short, from Valve's side, it's too complicated and not worth it.
Dido:

between this, and we are talking about "PC games" where every user is expected to intrinsically know their system specs, or can easily find them the idea of manually comparing the info is not considered that difficult.

then think about this too: I can browse the Steam store on my smartphone, and purchase games for one of my 2 computers that I have Steam installed on. when I run this "test" which system is it testing against? the system that I am browsing the store on, or one of the other registered systems. then what if I am buying a game for a friend (to give as gift) then either this test would have to break into their system, and scan it (invasion of privacy), or it would have to maintain their settings (which is data logging, and a version of stocking)

either way either learn your system specs of what you intend to play this game on, or look it up when you have a question.
girdurloins Dec 21, 2012 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by ☠EpicPsycho☠:
So idk but if they atleast had demos for each game so we can atleast see how well it would run that would be nice.

I always thought it would be helpful if you could first download a demo of whatever game you would like to buy so you could see how it performs on your computer.
Tito Shivan Dec 21, 2012 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by Enigmantic:
I always thought it would be helpful if you could first download a demo of whatever game you would like to buy so you could see how it performs on your computer.
Wish we had more game demos too...
sola Dec 21, 2012 @ 4:08pm 
+1
PeachyPynk Dec 21, 2012 @ 4:23pm 
THIS IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA! TO HELP PLAYERS IF THEY WANT TO KNOW IF THEY COULD RUN IT YOU A GENIUS
DoubleA Dec 21, 2012 @ 5:35pm 
WOW WE NEEEED THIS!!!
Stryker Dec 24, 2012 @ 12:02pm 
Originally posted by gardian06:
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
It's been asked lots of times, not going to happen.
Deciding if a game works is a far from trivial decision from a technical standpoint.
It puts the 'blame' of the choice on Valve, not the user.
Your Steam account can be used in any computer you want. What may work on a machine may not work on another.

In short, from Valve's side, it's too complicated and not worth it.
Dido:

between this, and we are talking about "PC games" where every user is expected to intrinsically know their system specs, or can easily find them the idea of manually comparing the info is not considered that difficult.

then think about this too: I can browse the Steam store on my smartphone, and purchase games for one of my 2 computers that I have Steam installed on. when I run this "test" which system is it testing against? the system that I am browsing the store on, or one of the other registered systems. then what if I am buying a game for a friend (to give as gift) then either this test would have to break into their system, and scan it (invasion of privacy), or it would have to maintain their settings (which is data logging, and a version of stocking)

either way either learn your system specs of what you intend to play this game on, or look it up when you have a question.

Why would you run a "can i run it" from your phone, or any other place besides the PC your playing it from....
gardian06 Dec 24, 2012 @ 9:10pm 
Originally posted by Stryker:
Originally posted by gardian06:
Originally posted by Tito Santa is coming to town:
It's been asked lots of times, not going to happen.
Deciding if a game works is a far from trivial decision from a technical standpoint.
It puts the 'blame' of the choice on Valve, not the user.
Your Steam account can be used in any computer you want. What may work on a machine may not work on another.

In short, from Valve's side, it's too complicated and not worth it.
Dido:

between this, and we are talking about "PC games" where every user is expected to intrinsically know their system specs, or can easily find them the idea of manually comparing the info is not considered that difficult.

then think about this too: I can browse the Steam store on my smartphone, and purchase games for one of my 2 computers that I have Steam installed on. when I run this "test" which system is it testing against? the system that I am browsing the store on, or one of the other registered systems. then what if I am buying a game for a friend (to give as gift) then either this test would have to break into their system, and scan it (invasion of privacy), or it would have to maintain their settings (which is data logging, and a version of stocking)

either way either learn your system specs of what you intend to play this game on, or look it up when you have a question.

Why would you run a "can i run it" from your phone, or any other place besides the PC your playing it from....
alright having the feature for phones was a little bit far (until Valve sees it as a viable platform), but because it is possible for a person to log into their steam account from any system that has steam installed, and by extension log into steampowered from anything that has internet connection it stands to reason that this test can be done for any system that is being connected to Steam, or Steampowered, and not the system that will end up playing, or attempting to play the game/app

if this were only viable through the Steam App then it makes a little more sense (for reason to be stated soon) as it already knows that you are likely to be playing the game from it, but there is still a chance of not.

the reason this would only really be acceptable from the Steam App is that it would require that the systems hardware specifications are to be given to the requester (under a Windows paradigm this is supposed to be unfeasible to uninstalled things), then there is also the consideration again that the steam library can be accessed from any computer steam app is installed on so by nature this test is only applicable from the system that is making the purchase, and it would really be a better idea to have a series of drop-downs for each different component (this is just a QA nightmare waiting to happen.

because you need to realize what those "will this run on my system" is really based on a big misconception (even by the hardcore PC gamer market) is that those "requirements/recommendations" are based off of 1-3 different builds that were QA tested against as "targets" essentially saying "we want it to at least play on this" so they test it, and then they usually slap the highest available on the market as "recommendations", and because they never tested against lower hardware there is an off-chance it can work (depends on if they made specific options that only work on a min tech, but that is a much longer drawn out discussion then I want to get into here)

not to mention if it is a game/application that has higher requirements, and is not playable from the current system specs you now have a milestone to hit during your next upgrade.

there were more then a few times that I upgraded my system specifically to the "recommended specs" of a game.

then there is the "purchase as a gift" option which this check becomes so irrelevant it is not even funny to have it on the site (unless it is just a series of drop-downs again nightmare, and misconception based),

so in reality the PC market exists as a "you should know what your hardware specs are, and what they can possibly do" the test would be nice, but unfeasible, and beside likely edge cases (user has 1 system that they ever access Steam from, and play games from) it is impracticable to boot.
Knoss Dec 25, 2012 @ 6:04am 
I supose this will not happen, but I also think we really need this. +1
The Mithril Dec 26, 2012 @ 4:23pm 
Why is this needed? As far as I know the system-requirements for each game is already there? Just compare your own specs with the requirements, and boom, you know if you can run it or not.
gardian06 Dec 26, 2012 @ 10:04pm 
Originally posted by The Mithril:
Why is this needed? As far as I know the system-requirements for each game is already there? Just compare your own specs with the requirements, and boom, you know if you can run it or not.
depends/kind of/maybe
because system requirements are actually only based off of "test systems" there might actually be cases where the application runs on lower hardware then listed (unless that tech is a minimum for very explicit reasons, and that usually only has to do directly with graphics) otherwise it might actually work on lower tech just not that well, but the only way to know for absolutely sure is either to build/buy the system to "required/recommended" specs, or just try it.

technically the demo sub-suggestion is more reasonable then this. because what are you expecting the test to do check to see how you current setup compares to the list? which has the issue I have stated here a few times.
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