Better achievement tracking

[Kirbster]

Hi Valve and friends,

I would just like to make a comment that I think would really improve steam and that is to make the achievement tracking system more friendly. Currently I find it quite difficult just to find game achievements quickly. There seems to be a lot of faffing about get a list, and even then it isn't a very clear list.

Please do not underestimate the importance of achievements - they extend the life of games beyond their original scope and for many they find it a rewarding experience in itself.

I know the system is in place, but it needs to be made more accessable and a lot clearer. I can't even see an option on my profile linking too them,and when you do find them in games they are not very clear, its hard too see what achievements you are missing, and what to strive for for a particuler game. I think right now Steam lays more emphasis on what achievements you have got rather than what you need to earn.

Thanks for your time.

Craig

[Furyus]

Agreed, the lack of obvious link to an 'Achievments page' from the user profile is no good. Sure you can go to your game list but not every game has achievements, so now you're sorting through that. It's own page with display/sort options, etc would be a great addition.

[mmmcheesywaffles]

引用自 Kirbster：

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Please do not underestimate the importance of achievements - they extend the life of games beyond their original scope and for many they find it a rewarding experience in itself.

... I think right now Steam lays more emphasis on what achievements you have got rather than what you need to earn. ...

Craig

Agreed. The only game I really enjoy for its Acheivements is currently Civ V. It would be so boring and repetative otherwise. The Acheievement make you try different tactics and I have now played WAY more Civ than I expected to ... and I havn't even bought the BNW DLC yet.

With Family Sharing there is also the possibility that a more feature rich version of the sharing will encourage family play and I would like to see a family comparison page to encourage that.

[shikanokonokonoko]

Agreed.

[ReBoot]

You can always add the achievement showcase to your profile.

[mmmcheesywaffles]

引用自 ReBoot：

You can always add the achievement showcase to your profile.

Working out which Acheivements you still need to get can be a pain. THe showcase only lets you find what you already got!

[ReBoot]

引用自 mmmcheesywaffles：

引用自 ReBoot：

You can always add the achievement showcase to your profile.

Working out which Acheivements you still need to get can be a pain. THe showcase only lets you find what you already got!

Why a pain? When in game, there's a button to show achievements for that game. When in library, there's one too.

[mmmcheesywaffles]

Well ... let's look at say Civ V.... I want to know which Acheivements I might score in a particular scenario. I have to google it! Then I have to work it out. ie Name of the leader, race, map, etc

Even comparing against the masses I have percentages of rarity... but how many players have it? How many players in total?

Then I want to compare my Acheivements against a freinds. No mechanism.

So I think there is a lot of room for improvement

[ReBoot]

Wait, what? Are you talking about Steam achievements or something else?

[mmmcheesywaffles]

引用自 ReBoot：

Wait, what? Are you talking about Steam achievements or something else?

Yes. eg Purple People Eaters Acheievement in Civ V. You get that winning a scenario playing as Hardrada of Norway. I got it - but have no idea how many other players have got it.

A percentage of players is shown but how many players have won it? It shows .5% of all players. So how many other players have it? 100; 1000; 10,000? It would mean much more if I knew how many players could win it i total

[ReBoot]

Ok, so you just want to know the total amount?

[mmmcheesywaffles]

引用自 ReBoot：

Ok, so you just want to know the total amount?

I don't want to have to work it out ;) So a ranking or some statement like ...
'you are x winner of y players'

for some games WHEN you win might be important to the high acheivers... so

'you are x of y players and were z'th player to get this'.

I'd be satisfied with knowing how many of us have each, and of how many in total that could win each.

[Furyus]

Reminds of how the Raptr service will say "You know outrank XXXX players in this game"

[ReBoot]

Steam has leaderboards, it's just up to the game to use them.

[mmmcheesywaffles]

Well I looked for me on the Civ leaderboard - I'm not there. Probably because I keep my profile private..unless there was another isssue?

But that shouldn't make it imposssible for me to know the stats. The leaderboard could show ME where I am and anyone private could show as a 'private' entry

[ReBoot]

This game doesn't have a Steam leaderboard, as it seems. So I've no idea if your profile has to be private or not or why you're not there. Maybe you should ask in the forum for that game. Because it doesn't have Steam leaderboards.