Do not allow AI games onto Steam.

[Eternal Echo]

Steam recently announced it was going to allow AI games onto its platform. Respectfully, do not allow AI games onto your platform in any capacity; it is nigh impossible for users to identify AI-generated materials en masse and the marketplace will be flooded with games that are barely games at all.

Quality control will go down the sink and you'll find players refunding their games left and right and outright refusing to buy new ones out of a well-earned fear of getting an AI turd.

Those who use AI are not forthcoming; they know that AI will turn off buyers and keep it a secret even from those who ask. I have asked developers about who drew their art and who then told me in private that it was AI generated and asked me to not tell anyone.

You will have a deluge of AI-generated games from developers who will not admit to using AI and in such large quantities that users cannot possibly identify them all and it will result in subpar, incomplete, and non-functional games by the dozen. Users will refund these aplenty if they're not already holding back on buying games because they're worried about buying AI drivel.

I urge Steam to immediately take back this decision. It may come across as an indecisive "flip-flop" but gamers and developers will be happy that you are listening to them and it will restore faith in the Steam brand before that faith is destroyed by AI games.

I hope you do this soon because I am of the opinion that I should probably move to Good Old Games if AI is allowed on this platform.

[Max]

Publicado originalmente por PMR:

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

But why it should be?

Also why games that used codes by Ai aren't required ?

Steam isn't art website to care whitch mothe they did, on art websites maybe because they are deffrent skill.

Those are just the rules, because some people dont want to fund things made with ai, or at least modern ai.

OH just that? For me I will fund them instead of funding ubisoft who hire artists but they still trash and gready.

[Sleepy Yoshi]

It's funny that Ubisoft got brought up given their recent AI generated promo art.

At any rate they should be marked. Greater transparency is rarely a bad thing and consumers should be informed so they can make their own decision.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

AI art isn't a skill.

OH here we go again,

Cumputeer exit to make work faster doesn't mater if it take skill or not,, dispute if a lot of artists do actually non 100% tracing.

Professional artists don't trace.

No matter how you slice it, AI art isn't a skill.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

@Eternal Echo

You do realize, the majority of people you thought you had been playing with for decades, were just Valve AI bots?

This is always a fun conspiracy.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Kiler_best1235_Denmark:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

This is always a fun conspiracy.

Did you know conspiracies can be true?

Not that one.

[Max]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

OH here we go again,

Cumputeer exit to make work faster doesn't mater if it take skill or not,, dispute if a lot of artists do actually non 100% tracing.

Professional artists don't trace.

No matter how you slice it, AI art isn't a skill.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

https://cdn.britannica.com/03/127503-050-125FD931/Children-scene-camera-obscura-1887.jpg



https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fntbi1g4dt7c41.jpg


http://www.heimatverein-striegistal.de/html/beitraege/camera%20obscura.html

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Professional artists don't trace.

No matter how you slice it, AI art isn't a skill.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

Professional artists don't trace.

https://cdn.britannica.com/03/127503-050-125FD931/Children-scene-camera-obscura-1887.jpg



https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fntbi1g4dt7c41.jpg


http://www.heimatverein-striegistal.de/html/beitraege/camera%20obscura.html

Pulling techniques for capturing landscapes before photography isn't proving your point.

Ironically, that still takes more skill than AI artists prompters.

[Max]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

https://cdn.britannica.com/03/127503-050-125FD931/Children-scene-camera-obscura-1887.jpg



https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fntbi1g4dt7c41.jpg


http://www.heimatverein-striegistal.de/html/beitraege/camera%20obscura.html

Pulling techniques for capturing landscapes before photography isn't proving your point.

Ironically, that still takes more skill than AI artists prompters.

wow how it should be? have been seen artists (before AI comes) they were tracing normally? as long you arn't 100% tracing person.

but keep using your "steam" wordy thing to another person, imagine calling camera obscure isn't tracing thing.

are you hidden artist by any chance


still u said

Professional artists don't trace.

its should apply to old ppl before camera.

also "samdoarts" take a lot off people photo then he just use "liquefy" tool ,then paint over it, but when AI come some he complaining and want to coy-write whole art-style lol

and a lot off ppl like him , i cant take the double standerd.

maybe remove "artist" from ppl who share fetish porn before AI artist.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Pulling techniques for capturing landscapes before photography isn't proving your point.

Ironically, that still takes more skill than AI artists prompters.

wow how it should be? have been seen artists (before AI comes) they were tracing normally? as long you arn't 100% tracing person.

but keep using your "steam" wordy thing to another person, imagine calling camera obscure isn't tracing thing.

are you hidden artist by any chance


still u said

Professional artists don't trace.

its should apply to old ppl before camera.

also "samdoarts" take a lot off people photo then he just use "liquefy" tool ,then paint over it, but when AI come some he complaining and want to coy-write whole art-style lol

and a lot off ppl like him , i cant take the double standerd.

maybe remove "artist" from ppl who share fetish porn before AI artist.

I honestly have no idea what you're even saying.

[Max]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

wow how it should be? have been seen artists (before AI comes) they were tracing normally? as long you arn't 100% tracing person.

but keep using your "steam" wordy thing to another person, imagine calling camera obscure isn't tracing thing.

are you hidden artist by any chance


still u said



its should apply to old ppl before camera.

also "samdoarts" take a lot off people photo then he just use "liquefy" tool ,then paint over it, but when AI come some he complaining and want to coy-write whole art-style lol

and a lot off ppl like him , i cant take the double standerd.

maybe remove "artist" from ppl who share fetish porn before AI artist.

I honestly have no idea what you're even saying.

what is that mean?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por '"{`@xMaxrayx%n%:{code:Reborn}"':

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

I honestly have no idea what you're even saying.

what is that mean?

That I have no idea what you're saying.

[American Dove Mitten]

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

Publicado originalmente por American Dung Beetle:

Oh yea, you will see a lot of it from now on.

You can tell a lot of the recent 2D and 3D adult games are AI art, too shiny, jittery animation is a give away as well.

That and I tracked some of the asset flippers as the owners. When you see adult games with catchy names, that sounds almost like a bait, they are partially made using AI tools, they pump them out almost daily.

LOL wut?
I've looked over the last several dozen games released in the Adult Only tag, and none of them look like they have AI art generation.
And jittery animation has nothing to do with AI.

A lot of the games listed are all 3d related ones.
You're going to have to directly tell me which game apparently is AI generated.

This rabbit hole is much bigger than you think and it would take a long time to explain properly.

So there are some 20000 accounts that review the same games (because they own them secretly and buy them out of region to post fake reviews) The main reason they do it is to generate keys for bundles.

Nearly every 3D adult game is owned by them, even though they will have different publisher names. But, all of the accounts will leave positive reviews for the same 3D adult games.

The 3D modeling is often stolen by asset flippers from bigger companies and modified by AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwc9XkuuTGI

This youtuber covered just their generic asset flips. If you want to do some research, pull any 3000 game accounts from those asset flips and put reviews side by side, you will that thousands of accounts own the same 3D adult games, because they are asset flips, not made manually, often repurposed 2D and 3D modeling.

(nearly all of the 3D adult games, are owned by same people that own those asset flips, you can prove it because when those games are overpriced for average user, all of the accounts magically have access to them)

I don't want to post individual accounts here to avoid name and shaming, just pull one of those fake accounts and count all the adult games they share between them, and you will see a pattern in how they are made.

[djhato]

my guy you are trying to stop a leaking damn by yelling at the water to stop leaking.

This will go the same way as every other wave of automation that went before it.

[PMR]

Publicado originalmente por djhato:

my guy you are trying to stop a leaking damn by yelling at the water to stop leaking.

This will go the same way as every other wave of automation that went before it.

Considering ai games have to note they use ai in their steam store page i'd say it's not the same at all.

[keekeedeke]

Are software developers at least required to use a disclaimer that AI was used? I have a son who is an animator and I, in no way, shape, or form want to contribute to people losing jobs. I only want to buy software created, atleast 99%, by actual real humans. If it's not required to say they used it, it should be. Again, I don't want to buy anything using AI and causing people to lose jobs (especially if they spent a lot of time and money on school).