Shadowfox394 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:27
Add a penguin icon to support you might want to!
I've been seeing people play Steam games on Linux running proton which is almost as good as running it natively do you guys think Steam should add the penguin to compete against other Operating Systems since Steam supports Linux anyway what do you guys think?
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Crazy Tiger 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:31 
What do you mean? On the store page? That's up to the game devs/publishers, since they are responsible for support for different OS versions.
Shadowfox394 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:34 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
What do you mean? On the store page? That's up to the game devs/publishers, since they are responsible for support for different OS versions.


I mean on the front page or what not to show support to the Linux community not the actual games lol you know how they got the Steam, Mac, and Windows Icon I wish they added a Penguin icon on the download thing I've also seen people use Wine to install Steam or install it in the package manager I guess should that count or not?
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:37 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Shadowfox394:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
What do you mean? On the store page? That's up to the game devs/publishers, since they are responsible for support for different OS versions.


I mean on the front page or what not to show support to the Linux community not the actual games lol you know how they got the Steam, Mac, and Windows Icon I wish they added a Penguin icon on the download thing I've also seen people use Wine to install Steam or install it in the package manager I guess should that count or not?

The Steam icon is the Linux support icon.

:nkCool:
Shadowfox394 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:38 
Oprindeligt skrevet af cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Shadowfox394:


I mean on the front page or what not to show support to the Linux community not the actual games lol you know how they got the Steam, Mac, and Windows Icon I wish they added a Penguin icon on the download thing I've also seen people use Wine to install Steam or install it in the package manager I guess should that count or not?

The Steam icon is the Linux support icon.

:nkCool:


Lol I didn't know that I think the Penguin mascot would of looked cooler man although it makes sense since SteamOS is layered with Arch Linux.
Ben Lubar 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:45 
The SteamPlay icon means it has native support for Linux, but Proton is very good and often you'll get just as good or better performance and ux than you would with the native Linux build just by running a Windows game in Proton.
DarkCrystalMethod 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:56 
I'd like to see more Linux-only or Linux first games(that eventually make their way to the other platforms. I guess that market is still too small for Valve to make a big deal about it on their store page.
Ben Lubar 17. nov. 2024 kl. 15:58 
Oprindeligt skrevet af DarkCrystalMethod:
I'd like to see more Linux-only or Linux first games(that eventually make their way to the other platforms. I guess that market is still too small for Valve to make a big deal about it on their store page.

That would be nice, but there's a risk that it comes with developers stepping so far outside of their comfort zones that they produce inferior products. I'd rather have a developer make a good game that runs on Linux through Proton than a bad game that runs natively on Linux.
DarkCrystalMethod 17. nov. 2024 kl. 16:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:
Oprindeligt skrevet af DarkCrystalMethod:
I'd like to see more Linux-only or Linux first games(that eventually make their way to the other platforms. I guess that market is still too small for Valve to make a big deal about it on their store page.

That would be nice, but there's a risk that it comes with developers stepping so far outside of their comfort zones that they produce inferior products. I'd rather have a developer make a good game that runs on Linux through Proton than a bad game that runs natively on Linux.
If you're telling linux devs that it can't be done then you just alerted the horde. Heck, they might even cross-compile their games so that it runs everywhere.
Ben Lubar 17. nov. 2024 kl. 16:02 
Oprindeligt skrevet af DarkCrystalMethod:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:

That would be nice, but there's a risk that it comes with developers stepping so far outside of their comfort zones that they produce inferior products. I'd rather have a developer make a good game that runs on Linux through Proton than a bad game that runs natively on Linux.
If you're telling linux devs that it can't be done then you just alerted the horde. Heck, they might even cross-compile their games so that it runs everywhere.

Buddy, I'm posting this from a laptop running Debian Trixie where I am working on developing two separate games right now.

I'm just saying that I've had better experiences with Proton than I have with games where the developers try to go outside of their comfort zone and create a Linux port.
Shadowfox394 17. nov. 2024 kl. 16:50 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:
The SteamPlay icon means it has native support for Linux, but Proton is very good and often you'll get just as good or better performance and ux than you would with the native Linux build just by running a Windows game in Proton.

That's kind of interesting dumb question isn't ChromeOS and MacOS basically the same as Linux is it possible to make games run on MacOS running proton or is Linux better than MacOS? I know Blizzard has MacOS support but not Linux what difference does it make or is it's own independent Operating System?
Ben Lubar 17. nov. 2024 kl. 16:51 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Shadowfox394:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ben Lubar:
The SteamPlay icon means it has native support for Linux, but Proton is very good and often you'll get just as good or better performance and ux than you would with the native Linux build just by running a Windows game in Proton.

That's kind of interesting dumb question isn't ChromeOS and MacOS basically the same as Linux is it possible to make games run on MacOS running proton or is Linux better than MacOS? I know Blizzard has MacOS support but not Linux what difference does it make or is it's own independent Operating System?

ChromeOS is a distribution of Linux. MacOS is not Linux, and it has its own graphics API that is intentionally incompatible with every other operating system.
Sidst redigeret af Ben Lubar; 17. nov. 2024 kl. 16:52
DarkCrystalMethod 17. nov. 2024 kl. 17:00 
I'd like to interject for a moment...
(no, not THAT speech)

MacOS started as UNIX, not Linux. However there's a general agreement among linux distros that if you ascribe to the POSIX standard(a theoretical Unix/Linux) then your program is portable enough to run on all specific linux distros that support POSIX. There may be a bit of a technological jump from Linux to Mac, but minimal source code changes would be needed (so that the mac binary could be built correctly for mac. Thats all presuming it stuck to the POSIX standard and Apple didn't go its own way(probably did).

Though if I wanted one binary that would 'work' on all OSes I'd start with java, as all you'd need is the right runtime for each OS. However there probably would be times were you couldn't optimize and use the fancy feature of the core OS, but at least it would work.
Except, some people hate java, so there goes that plan.
Sidst redigeret af DarkCrystalMethod; 17. nov. 2024 kl. 17:01
Shadowfox394 17. nov. 2024 kl. 17:50 
Oprindeligt skrevet af DarkCrystalMethod:
I'd like to interject for a moment...
(no, not THAT speech)

MacOS started as UNIX, not Linux. However there's a general agreement among linux distros that if you ascribe to the POSIX standard(a theoretical Unix/Linux) then your program is portable enough to run on all specific linux distros that support POSIX. There may be a bit of a technological jump from Linux to Mac, but minimal source code changes would be needed (so that the mac binary could be built correctly for mac. Thats all presuming it stuck to the POSIX standard and Apple didn't go its own way(probably did).

Though if I wanted one binary that would 'work' on all OSes I'd start with java, as all you'd need is the right runtime for each OS. However there probably would be times were you couldn't optimize and use the fancy feature of the core OS, but at least it would work.
Except, some people hate java, so there goes that plan.


Would be kind of nice if MacOS caught up to Windows because it can run almost similar software compatibility to Windows. That's kind of interesting to know that it's based on UNIX and not Linux but I guess you can make KDE Plasma look SIMILAR to a MacOS and have a similar experience or something but not the same support. I wouldn't mind MacOS if I knew they could be trusted I see you can download Steam on MacOS but I find more freedom running Linux that would be nice if Apple did went the Linux route or offered a Linux version of the Operating System. I know Garuda Dragonized works similar to MacOS which is why I kind of asked since it has a similar design to KDE Plasma how could they make it look similar though without having a KDE Plasma environment what kind of scripting do they use?
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