There should be free speech on a public forum

[Lambros]

There should be free speech on a public forum

This is a public forum.

Furthermore I notice posts are getting deleted but even more deleted than before, to the point where you dont even see them in your own post history.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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You're also limited in the places you can post, but notwithstanding arguments over money, it's still not a public forum, it's more akin to a private club that you can join. That club has rules.

It's a public forum.

A private forum would be one that requires a membership/account to even view.

Who told you that?

[Boblin the Goblin]

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It's a public forum.

A private forum would be one that requires a membership/account to even view.

Who told you that?

That's how a private forum works.

Reddit is a public forum and has the same requirement as Steam for posting(without the unlock account part).

[Doctor Zalgo]

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Who told you that?

That's how a private forum works.

Reddit is a public forum and has the same requirement as Steam for posting(without the unlock account part).

Reddit is also not a public forum. You agree to a code of conduct when you sign up and you are there entirely at the owners discretion.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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That's how a private forum works.

Reddit is a public forum and has the same requirement as Steam for posting(without the unlock account part).

Reddit is also not a public forum. You agree to a code of conduct when you sign up.

That doesn't make it a private forum.

It's a privately owned public forum.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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Reddit is also not a public forum. You agree to a code of conduct when you sign up.

That doesn't make it a private forum.

It's a privately owned public forum.

You know how you can tell if you're in a public forum? No one can throw you out. It's why the religious guy with the loud speaker gets to stand outside city hall and yell abuse every Friday night even though almost everyone hates him.

[Ben Lubar]

Publicly accessible internet forum does not mean the same thing as the legal term "public forum".

[Boblin the Goblin]

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That doesn't make it a private forum.

It's a privately owned public forum.

You know how you can tell if you're in a public forum? No one can throw you out. It's why the religious guy with the loud speaker gets to stand outside city hall and yell abuse every Friday night even though almost everyone hates him.

That isn't what 'public' means in the context of forums.

A city park is public, you can still be thrown out.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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Publicly accessible internet forum does not mean the same thing as the legal term "public forum".

We could just probably shorten that to 'publicly accessible' isn't the same as publicly owned', so it also covers supermarkets and bars.

Ed: changed public to publicly owned.

[Mad Scientist]

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That doesn't make it a private forum.

It's a privately owned public forum.

You know how you can tell if you're in a public forum? No one can throw you out. It's why the religious guy with the loud speaker gets to stand outside city hall and yell abuse every Friday night even though almost everyone hates him.

City halls & parks are public and can still throw people out. Decorum, civility and not disturbing the peace are generally required. Public facing does not mean people can do or say as they like.

Privately owned companies can operate public facing features.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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You know how you can tell if you're in a public forum? No one can throw you out. It's why the religious guy with the loud speaker gets to stand outside city hall and yell abuse every Friday night even though almost everyone hates him.

That isn't what 'public' means in the context of forums.

A city park is public, you can still be thrown out.

There's no such thing as 'in the context of forums' - forums aren't different when it comes to ownership or human rights.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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You know how you can tell if you're in a public forum? No one can throw you out. It's why the religious guy with the loud speaker gets to stand outside city hall and yell abuse every Friday night even though almost everyone hates him.

City halls & parks are public and can still throw people out. Decorum, civility and not disturbing the peace are generally required. Public facing does not mean people can do or say as they like.

Privately owned companies can operate public facing features.

That's the Government using its monopoly on force to do so though [and depending on a range of factors can be a first amendment violation if you're living in the states]. Which is only the same thing as a private property owner exercising their private property rights if you arguing in bad faith.

[Ben Lubar]

the "public" in the legal term "public forum" refers to ownership, not access

[Boblin the Goblin]

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That isn't what 'public' means in the context of forums.

A city park is public, you can still be thrown out.

There's no such thing as 'in the context of forums' - forums aren't different when it comes to ownership or human rights.

They are.

Your 'rights' on the forums extend as far as the ToS. Doesn't matter how strict those terms are, your rights end where they start.

Because, despite being public forums, they are still owned and operated by a private company.

[Doctor Zalgo]

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There's no such thing as 'in the context of forums' - forums aren't different when it comes to ownership or human rights.

They are.

Your 'rights' on the forums extend as far as the ToS. Doesn't matter how strict those terms are, your rights end where they start.

Because, despite being public forums, they are still owned and operated by a private company.

You're changing the definition of public forum and than saying 'look, if we change the definition, I'm right'.

[Mad Scientist]

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City halls & parks are public and can still throw people out. Decorum, civility and not disturbing the peace are generally required. Public facing does not mean people can do or say as they like.

Privately owned companies can operate public facing features.

That's the Government using its monopoly on force to do so though. Which is only the same thing as a private property owner exercising their private property rights if you arguing in bad faith.

If government has to "force" individuals to behave in public then the individual being "forced" is probably not suitable for public interacton and are a danger to others.

Bad faith is thinking you can do as you want when its not your land or business. Especially when you're a guest or otherwise don't own the land.