MedusaNXS 10 mei 2023 om 17:43
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Move adult content to it's own platform
I'm not against those who want to play these games, having access. But can you please provide them a dedicated platform and make an appropriate - ADULT ONLY - platform for it? People are pushing the envelope farther and farther on what is considered 'okay' on this platform. Every other game is inappropriate content - and I don't mean 'guns, and violence'. 'College girls', sexual dating sims..etc. It's overwhelming.
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Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

Sorry, but that's not how it works.
And Youtube has Naked Yoga on it. LOL.

Why are you suggesting we completely change everything about Steam because of porn games?
THat makes no sense ever.
LOL.
And you're being lazy in not protecting your own children.
No one does that.
Youtube does not allow nudity, yes something slip through, but you are trying to argue that youtube would have the same amount of porn ban or not. Either that or your argument is that the bans don't stop everything and therefore we should not bother.


They allow nudity under the guise of 'education'. This isn't a case of some 'slipping through'. YouTube is well aware of the naked yoga videos and has been told about them for some time.

That isn't his argument. His argument is that Steam is doing what is required to separate the content. It is up to the parents to police it further.
Well said, Slow.

Also, Steam and Youtube both are doing the legal thing.
You can't force more on Steam than any other website.
THat makes no sense ever to do.

Please tell me why you think the LAW is not enough for Steam to obey?
Why do they have to do something above and beyond what the law says?
And why only for you?

Why are you any more important than me? Or my second cousins who are both under 18?

Steam literally obeys the law.
You cannot claim it doesn't.
It makes no sense.
Laatst bewerkt door davidb11; 12 mei 2023 om 9:00
Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Youtube does not allow nudity, yes something slip through, but you are trying to argue that youtube would have the same amount of porn ban or not. Either that or your argument is that the bans don't stop everything and therefore we should not bother.


They allow nudity under the guise of 'education'. This isn't a case of some 'slipping through'. YouTube is well aware of the naked yoga videos and has been told about them for some time.

That isn't his argument. His argument is that Steam is doing what is required to separate the content. It is up to the parents to police it further.
Again youtube does NOT allow nudity, some are able to get passed this with legal loopholes by saying its education when we all know its not.
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Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:


That is YouTube's choice, not a legal requirement.

Steam is held to the same standard as other distribution sites. If they weren't, they would be in legal trouble.

Sites aren't required to have a 'kids area'. They are only required to have an age gate for specific content.
You understand these companies are legally not allowed to sell porn to minors? You understand Steam CAN get in trouble if one can prove they are not doing enough to prevent it?


Steam isn't selling porn to minors. Minors are lying about their age to buy pornographic themed games.

Once you lie on that prompt asking for your birth-date, you are at fault.
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:


They allow nudity under the guise of 'education'. This isn't a case of some 'slipping through'. YouTube is well aware of the naked yoga videos and has been told about them for some time.

That isn't his argument. His argument is that Steam is doing what is required to separate the content. It is up to the parents to police it further.
Again youtube does NOT allow nudity, some are able to get passed this with legal loopholes by saying its education when we all know its not.


That isn't a legal loophole. That's YouTube allowing it through their policy.
Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
You understand these companies are legally not allowed to sell porn to minors? You understand Steam CAN get in trouble if one can prove they are not doing enough to prevent it?


Steam isn't selling porn to minors. Minors are lying about their age to buy pornographic themed games.

Once you lie on that prompt asking for your birth-date, you are at fault.

Yep. EXactly.
And the fact remains, Youtube isn't going to take down the Naked Yoga stuff.
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
Well said, Slow.

Also, Steam and Youtube both are doing the legal thing.
You can't force more on Steam than any other website.
THat makes no sense ever to do.

Please tell me why you think the LAW is not enough for Steam to obey?
Why do they have to do something above and beyond what the law says?
And why only for you?

Why are you any more important than me? Or my second cousins who are both under 18?
Who said anything about being more important :steamfacepalm: Not gunna respond if you start going off on complete delusions.
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:


Steam isn't selling porn to minors. Minors are lying about their age to buy pornographic themed games.

Once you lie on that prompt asking for your birth-date, you are at fault.

Yep. EXactly.
And the fact remains, Youtube isn't going to take down the Naked Yoga stuff.
Legal loopholes are a technicality, not something you should need explained. Youtube does not allow that, they get around the rules.
Laatst bewerkt door zuniger; 12 mei 2023 om 9:03
You are literally saying you are more important than me by ignoring literally everything I SAID.
LOL.
You have ignored everything I said, and refused to understand Valve has never broken the law.
You are legit saying you are more important than the laws that Valve has already followed.
LOL wut.
Laatst bewerkt door davidb11; 12 mei 2023 om 9:03
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
You are literally saying you are more important than me by ignoring literally everything I SAID.
LOL.
You have ignored everything I said, and refused to understand Valve has never broken the law.
You are legit saying you are more important than the laws that Valve has already followed.
LOL wut.
Now you need to resort to putting words in my mouth? I never claimed any of that XD. This sounds more and more like me arguing with someone who is not old enough to access this material anyway XD Apparently if I don't agree with you that is equivalent to ignoring? lunacy XD
Laatst bewerkt door zuniger; 12 mei 2023 om 9:05
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
You are literally saying you are more important than me by ignoring literally everything I SAID.
LOL.
You have ignored everything I said, and refused to understand Valve has never broken the law.
You are legit saying you are more important than the laws that Valve has already followed.
LOL wut.
Now you need to resort to putting words in my mouth? I never claimed any of that XD

Then why argue this entire time?
I didn't put words in your mouth.
Any more than you ever put words in my mouth.

You are literally saying that Valve isn't doing enough, when they legally did do everything the law forces them to do.
LOL.

Also, I'm 40 years old.
Don't try to pull the age card on me, you will lose. :P
"I'm old, Dean, older than you can possibly imagine." Death, Supernatural.
Laatst bewerkt door davidb11; 12 mei 2023 om 9:07
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Now you need to resort to putting words in my mouth? I never claimed any of that XD

Then why argue this entire time?
I didn't put words in your mouth.
Any more than you ever put words in my mouth.

You are literally saying that Valve isn't doing enough, when they legally did do everything the law forces them to do.
LOL.
Simply yelling "its da law" is not a real argument either. The law is morality and morality isnt law, laws can be changed or in this case updated. As we both agreed the current system when dealing with porn online is very ineffective!!! Also you're not 40 and its laughable that you think I would find it believable smh. A 40 year man is not including "youre literally ignoring me" in his arguments XD no offense.
Laatst bewerkt door zuniger; 12 mei 2023 om 9:10
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:

Then why argue this entire time?
I didn't put words in your mouth.
Any more than you ever put words in my mouth.

You are literally saying that Valve isn't doing enough, when they legally did do everything the law forces them to do.
LOL.
Simply yelling "its da law" is not a real argument either. The law is morality and morality isnt law, laws can be changed or in this case updated. As we both agreed the current system when dealing with porn online is very ineffective!!!

What?
That's not even close to making sense there.
YOU CANNOT stop people from finding porn online.
LOL wut.

You can't shut down a 14 BILLION dollar industry because of accidental kid exposure!
That is beyond absurd.

I am 40 years old.
I was born in 1982.
Ergo, I am 40 years old. You can't fight math.

SAying I can't be 40 means you must be 12 years old.
See. I can do it too. :P

I Have plenty of evidence to support me being 40 years old.
Want me to show you a list of people who graduated from my high school back in 2001. :P
It shouldn't be too hard for me to track that down.
No you cannot see my birth certificate.

Laatst bewerkt door davidb11; 12 mei 2023 om 9:12
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
You are literally saying you are more important than me by ignoring literally everything I SAID.
LOL.
You have ignored everything I said, and refused to understand Valve has never broken the law.
You are legit saying you are more important than the laws that Valve has already followed.
LOL wut.
Now you need to resort to putting words in my mouth? I never claimed any of that XD. This sounds more and more like me arguing with someone who is not old enough to access this material anyway XD Apparently if I don't agree with you that is equivalent to ignoring? lunacy XD


Throughout this interaction you have said David was saying there doesn't need to be more strict measures because they would bypass it anyway. That was never the argument.

You have incorrectly compared Steam to sites like YouTube saying they are not held to the same standard because YouTube doesn't allow pornographic content. That is false because it is purely YouTube's choice, not a legal requirement.

You have tried to imply that Steam is breaking the law by selling pornographic content to children on the site, in turn, breaking the law. This is false since Steam has the legally required protections and verification on their site.

Steam is a storefront. A storefront that is based around video games and a few OSTs for those games. Pornographic games are still games. They have enacted measures to either hide that content by default or allow you to control what your child sees on the site. In fact, without an account and the setting turned on, you can't view any pornographic material.
Laatst bewerkt door Boblin the Goblin; 12 mei 2023 om 9:14
Origineel geplaatst door davidb11:
Origineel geplaatst door Oy goyim:
Simply yelling "its da law" is not a real argument either. The law is morality and morality isnt law, laws can be changed or in this case updated. As we both agreed the current system when dealing with porn online is very ineffective!!!

What?
That's not even close to making sense there.
YOU CANNOT stop people from finding porn online.
LOL wut.

You can't shut down a 14 BILLION dollar industry because of accidental kid exposure!
That is beyond absurd.
Again the only one without a real argument was you!! We ban CP to protect children, banning normal porn to protect them is perfectly logical. You used to have to go out to a store and buy it, we can go back to that system. Nothing extreme there at all.
Laatst bewerkt door zuniger; 12 mei 2023 om 9:14
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